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  • Originally posted by GOLDENGREEK

    At some point they should strech his arm to get him ready for the playoffs.
    To what, 140 pitches? It's not like he is throwing 70 pitches a game now.

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    • I don't buy into the late season dead arm BS. It's fictional BS created by the media. The same can be said about batters. How they're bat speed slows at season end. It's all relative.

      Throughout his career, CC statistically gets strong later in the season. His best months are Sept/Oct followed by August.

      Here's the link breaking down CC's starts by month:

      http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi...00#dates-month

      Look at the history of the better pitchers in baseball. Most become more dominant as the season progressive.

      Stop buying into ESPN and media myths. Do your own research. There's a wealth of info on the internet.

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      • Originally posted by wayne1218
        To what, 140 pitches? It's not like he is throwing 70 pitches a game now.
        100- 120

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        • Hasn't Santana had "Lights Out" 2nd halfs the last few years too?

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          • Originally posted by GOLDENGREEK
            100- 120
            So 7 innings? Hopefully the pen can get 6 outs!

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            • Originally posted by frankb03
              I don't buy into the late season dead arm BS. It's fictional BS created by the media. The same can be said about batters. How they're bat speed slows at season end. It's all relative.

              Throughout his career, CC statistically gets strong later in the season. His best months are Sept/Oct followed by August.

              Here's the link breaking down CC's starts by month:

              http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi...00#dates-month

              Look at the history of the better pitchers in baseball. Most become more dominant as the season progressive.

              Stop buying into ESPN and media myths. Do your own research. There's a wealth of info on the internet.

              DONT PITCHERS WITH 3 DAYS REST HAVE A HORRIBLE RECORD IN THE PLAYOFFS ?

              CC WAS BAD LAST YEAR IN THE PLAYOFFS- WASNT HE ?

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              • Originally posted by wayne1218
                So 7 innings? Hopefully the pen can get 6 outs!
                You worried about Marmol and Wood cause I'm not

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                • Originally posted by kbsooner21
                  You worried about Marmol and Wood cause I'm not

                  I'm worried about bullpens PERIOD!

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                  • Originally posted by wayne1218
                    So 7 innings? Hopefully the pen can get 6 outs!

                    Cubs pen is not Milwaukee's or ST Louis'

                    Wood
                    Smaradja
                    Marmol
                    Gaudin
                    Marshall

                    yeah -- I think they can get the last 6 outs

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                    • Originally posted by GOLDENGREEK
                      Cubs pen is not Milwaukee's or ST Louis'

                      Wood
                      Smaradja
                      Marmol
                      Gaudin
                      Marshall

                      yeah -- I think they can get the last 6 outs

                      I agree but look at what has happened. He is going 5-7 innings and getting no wins.

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                      • Originally posted by wayne1218
                        I agree but look at what has happened. He is going 5-7 innings and getting no wins.

                        and by "No", i mean very few.

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                        • Very few runs of support as well, but I'm not worried about that either.

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                          • Originally posted by kbsooner21
                            Very few runs of support as well, but I'm not worried about that either.

                            I hope not 'cause his Era won't stay that way forever ......



                            Neither will Sabathia's, just for the record!

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                            • Leo Mazzone, is the best pitching coach of this generation. One of his philosophies was for his pitchers to throw MORE between starts. They'd have 2 throwing sessions unlike the one that most teams and coaches employ. Studies have been done on Mazzone coaching style.

                              In his book The Baseball Economist, J.C. Bradbury titles a chapter, "How Good is Leo Mazzone?" Using statistical analysis, he analyzes whether Mazzone had a significant impact upon the pitchers that he coached. The sample is all pitchers who have pitched at least one year under Mazzone and one year under a different pitching coach. Bradbury found that Mazzone lowered the ERA of pitchers by an average of .64 points, and that after leaving Mazzone, pitchers' ERA increased by an average of .78 points

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                              • Originally posted by wayne1218
                                I agree but look at what has happened. He is going 5-7 innings and getting no wins.

                                no run support -wasnt the pen

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