Clay Buchholz

[Gookis]

Is this kid pitching again Thursday or what? Anyone know yet? I read he is on a inning count, and may not be used much the rest of the season. I have an opening on my fantasy team....is he worth a shot?

[kbsooner21]

Yup doc, it means the world to me you

It's a gambling site and if you want to gamble than put your wallet where your fucken mouth is. I'm not here to wager marbles, tiddly winks, post counts or user names. If you want to leave the 5th grade and wager like a man, your hard earned money against mine, than step up or

Good luck with that one.

[frankb03]

Why? I'm willing to bet most 20 game winners have an era near 4 and close to 200 k's. Think about it.

Obviously there were no 20 game winners last season

2005:

Colon 21-8 ERA 3.48 SO 157
Willis 22-10 ERA 2.63 SO 170
Carpenter 21-5 ERA 2.83 SO 213
Oswalt 20-12 ERA 2.94 SO 184

2004

Shilling 21-6 ERA 3.26 SO 203
Santana 20-6 ERA 2.61 SO 265
Oswalt 20-10 ERA 3.49 SO 206

No ERAs are any where near 4.00

[wayne1218]

Obviously there were no 20 game winners last season

2005:

Colon 21-8 ERA 3.48 SO 157
Willis 22-10 ERA 2.63 SO 170
Carpenter 21-5 ERA 2.83 SO 213
Oswalt 20-12 ERA 2.94 SO 184

2004

Shilling 21-6 ERA 3.26 SO 203
Santana 20-6 ERA 2.61 SO 265
Oswalt 20-10 ERA 3.49 SO 206

No ERAs are any where near 4.00

Thank you. You made my point for me!

[frankb03]

Thank you. You made my point for me!

The last NL pitcher to win 20 games with an ERA over 4.00 was Jim Merritt in 1970. Merritt was 20-12 ERA 4.08

In the AL was Andy Pettitte for the Yanks in 2003. He was 21-8 ERA 4.02

[wayne1218]

The last NL pitcher to win 20 games with an ERA over 4.00 was Jim Merritt in 1970. Merritt was 20-12 ERA 4.08

In the AL was Andy Pettitte for the Yanks in 2003. He was 21-8 ERA 4.02

So it is fair to say that an Era of 5 and a 20 game winner don't go together right?


Exactly. A 20 game winner will generally be near the top of the league in era so to choose a guy with an era under 4 or a guy with 200+ K's over a 20 game winner would be insane!

[wayne1218]

Those damn kids are at it again. Ellsbury with a nice 2 run shot!

[robby_morini]

Let Lowell go. He will want a multi year deal and his age will catch up to him. Sign A-Rod!

Lowell looks older than 33. I really thought he was late 30's.

The guy can flat out play.

[wayne1218]

Those damn kids!!!!!

Pedroia & Ellsbury go 5/7 again and that kid came out of the pen and said 3 things ... Good Morning, Good Afternoon and Good Night ... 10 Pitches!

[Three Jack]

The last NL pitcher to win 20 games with an ERA over 4.00 was Jim Merritt in 1970. Merritt was 20-12 ERA 4.08

In the AL was Andy Pettitte for the Yanks in 2003. He was 21-8 ERA 4.02

Where's LoveDick? YooooHoooo....Where are you?????? You of the 'it's possible for someone to win 300 games and have an ERA of 5'....YOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOO, WHERE ARE YOU?????????

[Three Jack]

Those damn kids are at it again. Ellsbury with a nice 2 run shot!

PUHLEESE, Wayne...let me jerk off to the guy that throws 13 pitches every 2 or 3 days and the starting pitcher with an ERA of 5+.....

[Three Jack]

Manny Who? Keep him out until Sept 27...give him 4 games to get his swing back.

[wayne1218]

PUHLEESE, Wayne...let me jerk off to the guy that throws 13 pitches every 2 or 3 days and the starting pitcher with an ERA of 5+.....

[ctt8410]

When was the last time a guy with 200 strikeouts didn't have an ERA under 4? I guess I don't really get the argument that wins are more important since all 3 stats are interrelated.

[wayne1218]

When was the last time a guy with 200 strikeouts didn't have an ERA under 4? I guess I don't really get the argument that wins are more important since all 3 stats are interrelated.

ctt, It's simple. What is the 1st thing brought up when talking about a starting pitchers career? It's not hey, how many K's did he have or Hey, what was his Era. It is ... How many wins did he have. Alot of wins generally = Alot of K's and a very good Era. If you are betting on 2 starting pitchers for a season and wins are not part of the wager, it is ridiculous. When a starting pitcher is up for a HOF Vote, what is the 1st thing talked about in the debate? It's wins and how many did he have.