Who are you voting for?

[KazDog]

Anyone care to tackle this?

1. He will set a timetable for withdraw of the troops in Iraq. Something McCain has not alluded to and has even said it's possible we'll be there for 100 years.

2. A comprehensive national energy policy to get us closer to energy independence. Promote the development of alternate energy to ween us away from foreign oil dependency.

3. Affordable Health care for all citizens like the rest of the developed world, and not just for those who can afford it.

4. More tax relief to the middle class and lower income levels. Basically ensuring that the middle class is thriving. This includes tax cuts to small businesses and companies that provide jobs for our citizens. Current and Right Wing ideology is that you ensure that the upperclass and large companies are given tax cuts in the 'hope' that it trickles down to the poor. It never does and hasn't since Bush has been in office.

5. Comprehensive immigration reform. It's simple. You can't just boot illegal immigrants out of this country. They are a viable workforce and support the economy by spending their money they make while working for the lowest wages on the income ladder. The reason why the food we eat is affordable, is because there is a workforce of immigrants who are willing to work for low wages in some of the most grueling work environments. The immigration issue has been exploited by politicians to divide the country and has only worsen the problem.

6. An active plan to secure social security and provide for seniors over the age of 65 who were the backbone of this country and are now being left behind esp. by the current administration.

7. Much more support for our school system and the teachers who work for them than the current administration. Rebuilding aging schools and give teachers better pay and more support in exchange for more accountability, including making college more affordable.

8. And last but not least in my opinion, Obama CHOSE a viable Vice Presidential running mate, who has experience in foreign policy and governmental issues and not a running mate who was reputed by several respected Conservatives, including; David Brooks NY Times, Peggy Noonan former Bush advisor, and Christopher Buckley of the National Review, as being inexperienced and and lacking the education needed as a potential president, making a mockery of the GOP ticket. McCain's choice makes you wonder about his sound judgment in leading the country and his decision making capabilities.

KAZ

[BettorsChat]

At least you guys have 1 thread to play in!

[savage1]

8. And last but not least in my opinion, Obama CHOSE a viable Vice Presidential running mate, who has experience in foreign policy and governmental issues and not a running mate who was reputed by several respected Conservatives, including; David Brooks NY Times, Peggy Noonan former Bush advisor, and Christopher Buckley of the National Review, as being inexperienced and and lacking the education needed as a potential president, making a mockery of the GOP ticket. McCain's choice makes you wonder about his sound judgment in leading the country and his decision making capabilities.

I sure hope that those who have raved about Palin in this thread read and consider this particular section.

[buddyluv1968]

A vote for Obama is a vote for a socialist. He will kill the American dream and move the country towards dependancy on Big Government. You see how Government works with Fannie and Freddi, why have them get into Big Gov healthcare?

I am voting McCain.

You and JC are my favorite people on this site. JC we live in the same city please tell you where you get the stuff that you smoke. We have bank failures, 7% unemployment, Two Wars that were unjust that we are fighting, market lost 700pts this week. Joe the plumber is a redneck that tried to be a smart ass toward Obama that was expose. You want 4 more years of this? JC, how much control did you have in choosing your name? In Louisville I bet you going to vote for Katie King for judge. A dumb as 29 year old that has a criminal record but she comes from a rich family that can afford nice signs....

[BigWeiner]

You and JC are my favorite people on this site. JC we live in the same city please tell you where you get the stuff that you smoke. We have bank failures, 7% unemployment, Two Wars that were unjust that we are fighting, market lost 700pts this week. Joe the plumber is a redneck that tried to be a smart ass toward Obama that was expose. You want 4 more years of this? JC, how much control did you have in choosing your name? In Louisville I bet you going to vote for Katie King for judge. A dumb as 29 year old that has a criminal record but she comes from a rich family that can afford nice signs....

I doubt JC and Flare are getting a tax increase, of the whopping 3% proposed. Joe the Plummer actually makes 36K a year and would benefit from the tax relief on 95% of the population. That guys a douche anyways, nice try McCain. If you get a phone call from a recorded message from John McCain the night before the election saying Obama's gonna make you marry a dude, don't believe it, you can marry a woman if you want.

[buddyluv1968]

McCain

In exactly 50 words:
-I already believe the "rich" get taxed too much and Obama is only going to increase that.
-I am a strict Constitutionalist and I don't feel Obama respects the document for what it says.
-I don't think health care is a right.
-Obama truly does lack the necessary experience needed.

-Warren Buffett was on the Today show a couple of months ago and he was laughing at the fact that the rich are over tax. Percentage wise the middle class pays more taxes. Warren Buffett is one of the most consevative people out there. He was willing to bet 1 million to anyone that could prove him wrong...

- Patriot Act

- You dont believe in health care?

- experience? If McCain has so much experience why is he so negative and is afraid to debate on issues instead of spreading lies.. Please wake up...

[vols fan]

No spark it wouldnt. Dems control the house and senate. What will happen if they get all three?

Spark do you know why people are losing their houses?? cause they shouldnt have been approved for them in the first place. Freddy and fanny mae were started by Democrats who wanted poor people to be able to purchase homes. Look what happend. It has bankrupted our economy.

Kel and I benefited from getting a house we couldnt afford. But you know what....instead of crying poor and wanting the government to step in and pay our mortgage I continued to work at a tavern for extra cash to make ends meet. Why because I have self pride. People are lazy and want everything done for them. That is what liberals do. They want you to make you dependent on them. They want big government.

One of the best post on here.Repubs and dems have to agree on this.

[buddyluv1968]

I doubt JC and Flare are getting a tax increase, of the whopping 3% proposed. Joe the Plummer actually makes 36K a year and would benefit from the tax relief on 95% of the population. That guys a douche anyways, nice try McCain. If you get a phone call from a recorded message from John McCain the night before the election saying Obama's gonna make you marry a dude, don't believe it, you can marry a woman if you want.

[vols fan]

We might as well stop the arguing. Obama is in, let's make the most of it. Bush had his chance, and he shit his pants. We're still the best country in the world regardless of who is president. Let's turn this around already.

Probably the second best post.

[buddyluv1968]

One of the best post on here.Repubs and dems have to agree on this.

You are right!!!! We also have a 7% unemployment rate so people are losing their jobs. We also have soldiers that are in the reserves that had nice paying jobs... Had to take a pay cut to go to Iraq also are losing their homes because they cannot afford their payments... The ones that were self employed are also losing their business. So please do not drink that Kool Aid..... I can tell that you are an hard working honest person... best of luck to you...

[vols fan]

I doubt JC and Flare are getting a tax increase, of the whopping 3% proposed. Joe the Plummer actually makes 36K a year and would benefit from the tax relief on 95% of the population. That guys a douche anyways, nice try McCain. If you get a phone call from a recorded message from John McCain the night before the election saying Obama's gonna make you marry a dude, don't believe it, you can marry a woman if you want.

IF 95%(no way in hell)of the population paid taxes our financial problems would be cut in half Your way smarter than that BW.

[BigWeiner]

IF 95%(no way in hell)of the population paid taxes our financial problems would be cut in half Your way smarter than that BW.

Here's Obama Tax plan

* Cut taxes for 95 percent of workers and their families with a tax cut of $500 for workers or $1,000 for working couples.
* Provide generous tax cuts for low- and middle-income seniors, homeowners, the uninsured, and families sending a child to college or looking to save and accumulate wealth.
* Eliminate capital gains taxes for small businesses, cut corporate taxes for firms that invest and create jobs in the United States, and provide tax credits to reduce the cost of healthcare and to reward investments in innovation.
* Dramatically simplify taxes by consolidating existing tax credits, eliminating the need for millions of senior citizens to file tax forms, and enabling as many as 40 million middle-class Americans to do their own taxes in less than five minutes without an accountant.

[BigWeiner]

I'm sure there's gonna be biased MF'ers that are gonna say, "that's not gonna work" Well my question is, in 8 years under Bush, is this shit working? My taxes suck balls, you think I'm worried about more taxes, no, I'm worried about turning the country back around, so that taxes actually work, so that companies, like mine, actually flourish, so schools have money and my kid doesn't have to go to private school with all the rich kids, so the neighborhoods around my house aren't full of gangbangers. Fuck taxes, I want a new fucking president. McCain is fucking Bush part 2. Thanks for listening.

[vols fan]

Here's Obama Tax plan

* Cut taxes for 95 percent of workers and their families with a tax cut of $500 for workers or $1,000 for working couples.
* Provide generous tax cuts for low- and middle-income seniors, homeowners, the uninsured, and families sending a child to college or looking to save and accumulate wealth.
* Eliminate capital gains taxes for small businesses, cut corporate taxes for firms that invest and create jobs in the United States, and provide tax credits to reduce the cost of healthcare and to reward investments in innovation.
* Dramatically simplify taxes by consolidating existing tax credits, eliminating the need for millions of senior citizens to file tax forms, and enabling as many as 40 million middle-class Americans to do their own taxes in less than five minutes without an accountant.

We will see BW.I agree with you he's probably going to win so I hope he proves me wrong.I don't even know why I'm in here.I went and voted this morning so really it's a closed argument for me.Good luck to us all and hope whoever wins aint just blowing smoke up our ass.

[BigWeiner]

We will see BW.I agree with you he's probably going to win so I hope he proves me wrong.I don't even know why I'm in here.I went and voted this morning so really it's a closed argument for me.Good luck to us all and hope whoever wins aint just blowing smoke up our ass.

I hope I'm not wrong in supporting him. Honestly I'm a conservative liberal. I hate welfare, and I hate unemployment. I have friends that just sit around all day and collect, its not right, there should be restrictions, you should have to interview for 10 jobs a week. These guys that worked for mortgage companies, that got laid off, could work at Starbucks, but they don't want to, they wanna collect free money, and that pisses me off.