Who are you voting for?

[vols fan]

I hope I'm not wrong in supporting him. Honestly I'm a conservative liberal. I hate welfare, and I hate unemployment. I have friends that just sit around all day and collect, its not right, there should be restrictions, you should have to interview for 10 jobs a week. These guys that worked for mortgage companies, that got laid off, could work at Starbucks, but they don't want to, they wanna collect free money, and that pisses me off.

Just like 10dimes post about working another job to make ends meet.My wife had to go back to her old job,I traded her BMW in for a much cheaper,better on gas(unleaded) and better warranty to save a little money each month but it was something that needed to be done.And before my kids do without I would get a job working nights if it came to that.That is my big problem with "spreading the wealth" cause there are people working 2 jobs,spending time away from there kids while someone is sitting at home living the easy life.That shit makes me sick.

[vols fan]

I hate welfare, and I hate unemployment. I have friends that just sit around all day and collect, its not right, there should be restrictions, you should have to interview for 10 jobs a week.

One of the best things I ever saw here was the post about people should have to pass a piss test to draw unemployment and welfare.God I would love to see that.

[casheasy]

McCain. Very simple. Lower Taxes. We need MORE of OUR money, not less.

Obama is going to RAISE TAXES. That is a fact. The moment after he says he's not really raising taxes (LOL), he then admits he's actually going to roll back the Bush tax cuts. That's his way of saying, "See, I'm technically not raising taxes, just returning them to pre Bush Tax Cut rates." What a joke. Mark my words. Your taxes will go up dramatically in 3 months after Obama wins.

[KazDog]

No spark it wouldnt. Dems control the house and senate. What will happen if they get all three?

Spark do you know why people are losing their houses?? cause they shouldnt have been approved for them in the first place. Freddy and fanny mae were started by Democrats who wanted poor people to be able to purchase homes. Look what happend. It has bankrupted our economy.

Kel and I benefited from getting a house we couldnt afford. But you know what....instead of crying poor and wanting the government to step in and pay our mortgage I continued to work at a tavern for extra cash to make ends meet. Why because I have self pride. People are lazy and want everything done for them. That is what liberals do. They want you to make you dependent on them. They want big government.

This is probably one of the most biased posts in this thread. Dimer listens to too much Rush.

Fannie was created after the Great Depression to help people get loans. Freddie was created in 1970 to compete against Fannie. They are companies that are traded on the NY Stock exchange. They are NOT liberals handing money over to the poor. They are out to make money like any other company.

Isn't it funny that Fannie, around since 1938 and Freddie, since 1970 have had no problems what so ever until Bush and the Republican's took office???

They have been around for 70 years and it wasn't until now that even they are feeling the problems brought about by Bush's failed presidency and economic plans.

They will be fine because the 'GOVERNMENT' stepped in and took control of them to ensure that our economy does not go into a complete depression. A Democrat and a Republican engineered a takeover of Fannie and Freddie.

You have ask yourself this....Why are people defaulting on their home loans RIGHT NOW???? Your ONLY answer is... the current condition of this country left by the current administration.

KAZ

[BigWeiner]

McCain. Very simple. Lower Taxes. We need MORE of OUR money, not less.

Obama is going to RAISE TAXES. That is a fact. The moment after he says he's not really raising taxes (LOL), he then admits he's actually going to roll back the Bush tax cuts. That's his way of saying, "See, I'm technically not raising taxes, just returning them to pre Bush Tax Cut rates." What a joke. Mark my words. Your taxes will go up dramatically in 3 months after Obama wins.

8 years of Bush, and you're just fine with the way taxes are right now? My taxes suck, I don't know about everybody else.

[BigWeiner]

Were anybodies taxes so much worse under Clinton? I'm seriously curious, because it's always about taxes with some. My taxes suck right now, they have sucked for a while, and we've had Bush for 8 years, weren't my taxes suppose to be great with a Republican president?

[ChangingMyLuck3]

Here's the points that you should remember. I studied politics in college...

First off sick of democrats pointing the finger at Bush for the reason why our economy is in the shitter, it's not all his fault so get over it. Look at your own people. Your own people have been sucking it dry too. Second off, if you look at the economy the first 6 years that President Bush was in office... our economy was EXCELLENT. In fact, my findings are that a little over 1 year ago you ready for this...

1.) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;

2.) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19/gallon

3.) the unemployment rate was 4.5%

4.) the DOW JONES hit a record high--14,000+

5.) We were all buying new cars, taking cruises, vacations overseas + living large.

Is that a bad economy? absolutely not.

Remember you democrats that want to point the finger at Bush for the economy, look at your own peeps, remember... in 2006 we voted in a Democratic Congress... now in the past year... ready for it...

1.) Consumer confidence has plummeted.

2.) Gasoline is finally declining however topped well over $4 a gallon in many places

3.) Unemployment rate is up to 5+% (a 10% increase)

4.) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $12 trillion dollars and prices are still dropping.

5.) $2.5 trillion dollars has evaporated from stocks, bonds & mutual funds + investment portfolios.

So stop pointing the finger... if you know anything about economies... you shall know that war is GOOD for an economy. Don't let anyone fool you that War is not good for an economy because it is. Before you open your mouth and respond back to that take an economy class and learn that the economy is like a roller coaster, ups and downs and more downs then up right now. Finger pointing shall end against George Bush.

I'm a republican and I'll be the first to admit that George Bush hasnt been the best president in our history for sure. I'll be the first one to admit that. George Bush did what we had to do for a long time that Clinton didnt have the nutsack to do and thats to go in and take care of Saddam Hussein, he was a ruthless leader and needed to be taken out. Do I think we still should be there? Of course not, however, it's about stability and stabilizing that region. Iraqi's love us for freeing them and giving them independence they've never had. Did Iraq have weapons of mass destruction or illegal weapons? Yes they did. We found some, but not as much as we thought they had. However, do you recall everytime under the Clinton administration we went to do weapons inspections in Iraq and EVERYTIME the United Nations went, we we're turned away. Then after a few halts they welcomed us in to inspect and we didnt push the envelope then? Im sorry but thats like saying no don't come in and inspect let's hide our weapons, send them to Syria and then invite them back and look we have no weapons. Open up your eyes people... Hellen Keller can see this stuff and she's blind.

Now as far as the election... the same people that are calling on Palin about her experience as a Vice Presidential nominee should eat their words because guess what, you are turning around and endorsing Barack Obama, who btw if you didn't know, isnt qualified to become President of the United States. It's not even the fact that he has JUST 3 years of experience as a Senator for the lovely state of Illinois it's because there's a court case against him right now and he's trying to halt it and delay it as much as he can so it doesnt disrupt his chance at President. The case states that Barack Obama is not a naturally born citizen of the United States. He refuses to show paper copies of his birth certificate but what does he do to try and shut up the people questioning it, he posts his birth certificate online at his website and factcheck dot org agreed its LEGIT. Bullshit it's legit, then how come we cannot see a paper copy of this document. You can make ANYTHING up with computers and technology these days. Let's see a paper copy. If you have nothing to hide, just show it to us, it would shut up a lot of people if you could prove the legitimacy of it. If you look who runs factcheck dot org it's Annenberg of Chicago, which btw Barack Obama is involved with Annenberg and money has flown in both directions with the two. Tell me thats not a little biased website to check FACTS. Remember, when people tell the truth the story stays the same, the truth is the truth. When people lie, everyone gets mixed up. Barack Obama says he was born at a certain hospital in Hawaii and his half sister says he was born at a different hospital in Hawaii. Barack Obama's own paternal grandmother is going around telling everyone that shes so proud of her grandson and that he's going to become the next president of the United States of America and she cant believe it because she was in the delivery room with his mother, his half sister and brother when she gave birth to him in KENYA! There's some lying going on here. If you're born in Kenya, you cannot be President of the United States. Secondly, under further investigation remember when he went to school in Indonesia for 4 years? Yah well look at the time period that he went to school in Indonesia. Look up history, Indonesia was at WAR at the time he was in school there. At that time, Indonesia did NOT allow dual citizenships and if you wanted to go to school in Indonesia you had to BE a CITIZEN of INDONESIA. Therefore Barack Obama's step-father had to of made him a citizen so that he could go to school. If you check it out, he was a citizen of Indonesia and they didnt allow dual citizenships, so if he were to come back to the United States which he ended up doing... he would have to go through immigration and customs. Therefore when coming back and applying for citizenship he would have to then become a NATURALIZED CITIZEN not a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN and therefore indeed a Naturalized Citizen cannot be President of the United States of America. Also, can I just say... someone who doesnt value the American Flag does not deserve to be our president, forget his qualifications. Our flag is what our country was built on and if you cant respect it then go fuck yourself. John McCain isnt the best choice for President HOWEVER, he's a much better pick than Obama and McCain is a war VET and bled for OUR country. He's an American Hero and America should wake up and vote him as President or you think it's bad now... you just wait...
Ciao

[KazDog]

Here's the points that you should remember. I studied politics in college...

First off sick of democrats pointing the finger at Bush for the reason why our economy is in the shitter, it's not all his fault so get over it. Look at your own people. Your own people have been sucking it dry too. Second off, if you look at the economy the first 6 years that President Bush was in office... our economy was EXCELLENT. In fact, my findings are that a little over 1 year ago you ready for this...

1.) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;

2.) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19/gallon

3.) the unemployment rate was 4.5%

4.) the DOW JONES hit a record high--14,000+

5.) We were all buying new cars, taking cruises, vacations overseas + living large.

Is that a bad economy? absolutely not.

The economy the past two years was directly affected by Bush's policies for the 6 years prior. If you don't understand that, then you were falling asleep in your political classes in college. The trillions spent on the war, tax cuts for the wealthy, increasing gas prices... and so on and so on, as it has been stated many times around here. Bush failed in so many areas as president as well as the Republican's in Congress for the six years they had. Little is affected by what is done today. Everything the president does and Congress for that matter has a residual effect down the road. Just admit it and get on with the change that's about to transpire.....

KAZ

[Three Jack]

If we talked about the issues, everyone would realize that McCain voted 90% like Bush

But you are the one that wants to talk about Palin's wardrobe.....

[ChangingMyLuck3]

This is probably one of the most biased posts in this thread. Dimer listens to too much Rush.

Fannie was created after the Great Depression to help people get loans. Freddie was created in 1970 to compete against Fannie. They are companies that are traded on the NY Stock exchange. They are NOT liberals handing money over to the poor. They are out to make money like any other company.

Isn't it funny that Fannie, around since 1938 and Freddie, since 1970 have had no problems what so ever until Bush and the Republican's took office???

They have been around for 70 years and it wasn't until now that even they are feeling the problems brought about by Bush's failed presidency and economic plans.

They will be fine because the 'GOVERNMENT' stepped in and took control of them to ensure that our economy does not go into a complete depression. A Democrat and a Republican engineered a takeover of Fannie and Freddie.

You have ask yourself this....Why are people defaulting on their home loans RIGHT NOW???? Your ONLY answer is... the current condition of this country left by the current administration.

KAZ

actually KAZ the reason that people are defaulting on their home loans is because of variable rate interests rates which are garbage and the fact that banks were giving away loans to BUMS ON THE STREET. You could pretty much get a home loan the past couple of years if you could sign your name on the dotted line... oh and we'll give you 0% financing for the first year, oh and this and that and this and that and when it came down to it people were like oh wow I can afford this, this isnt bad then their interest rate changed the specials went away and people got fucked. Banks should have held bigger requirements and they fucked themselves. Hang on while I give this BUM off the streets a mortage for $300,000 so he can have a house. FUCK fannie mae and Freddie Mac. They sucked. The republicans wanted to regulate those companies because we realized there was a problem. The democrats and their on record as well saying there was no problem with Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae. Are you kidding me? You couldnt see problems with the company especially when the own owner of the business is giving himself bonuses upwards of hundreds of thousands of dollars, sucking his company money dry and fucking over his business. Oh and BTW, he's an economic advisor to Barack OBAMA FYI..

[buddyluv1968]

Here's the points that you should remember. I studied politics in college...

First off sick of democrats pointing the finger at Bush for the reason why our economy is in the shitter, it's not all his fault so get over it. Look at your own people. Your own people have been sucking it dry too. Second off, if you look at the economy the first 6 years that President Bush was in office... our economy was EXCELLENT. In fact, my findings are that a little over 1 year ago you ready for this...

1.) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;

2.) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19/gallon

3.) the unemployment rate was 4.5%

4.) the DOW JONES hit a record high--14,000+

5.) We were all buying new cars, taking cruises, vacations overseas + living large.

Is that a bad economy? absolutely not.

Remember you democrats that want to point the finger at Bush for the economy, look at your own peeps, remember... in 2006 we voted in a Democratic Congress... now in the past year... ready for it...

1.) Consumer confidence has plummeted.

2.) Gasoline is finally declining however topped well over $4 a gallon in many places

3.) Unemployment rate is up to 5+% (a 10% increase)

4.) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $12 trillion dollars and prices are still dropping.

5.) $2.5 trillion dollars has evaporated from stocks, bonds & mutual funds + investment portfolios.

So stop pointing the finger... if you know anything about economies... you shall know that war is GOOD for an economy. Don't let anyone fool you that War is not good for an economy because it is. Before you open your mouth and respond back to that take an economy class and learn that the economy is like a roller coaster, ups and downs and more downs then up right now. Finger pointing shall end against George Bush.

I'm a republican and I'll be the first to admit that George Bush hasnt been the best president in our history for sure. I'll be the first one to admit that. George Bush did what we had to do for a long time that Clinton didnt have the nutsack to do and thats to go in and take care of Saddam Hussein, he was a ruthless leader and needed to be taken out. Do I think we still should be there? Of course not, however, it's about stability and stabilizing that region. Iraqi's love us for freeing them and giving them independence they've never had. Did Iraq have weapons of mass destruction or illegal weapons? Yes they did. We found some, but not as much as we thought they had. However, do you recall everytime under the Clinton administration we went to do weapons inspections in Iraq and EVERYTIME the United Nations went, we we're turned away. Then after a few halts they welcomed us in to inspect and we didnt push the envelope then? Im sorry but thats like saying no don't come in and inspect let's hide our weapons, send them to Syria and then invite them back and look we have no weapons. Open up your eyes people... Hellen Keller can see this stuff and she's blind.

Now as far as the election... the same people that are calling on Palin about her experience as a Vice Presidential nominee should eat their words because guess what, you are turning around and endorsing Barack Obama, who btw if you didn't know, isnt qualified to become President of the United States. It's not even the fact that he has JUST 3 years of experience as a Senator for the lovely state of Illinois it's because there's a court case against him right now and he's trying to halt it and delay it as much as he can so it doesnt disrupt his chance at President. The case states that Barack Obama is not a naturally born citizen of the United States. He refuses to show paper copies of his birth certificate but what does he do to try and shut up the people questioning it, he posts his birth certificate online at his website and factcheck dot org agreed its LEGIT. Bullshit it's legit, then how come we cannot see a paper copy of this document. You can make ANYTHING up with computers and technology these days. Let's see a paper copy. If you have nothing to hide, just show it to us, it would shut up a lot of people if you could prove the legitimacy of it. If you look who runs factcheck dot org it's Annenberg of Chicago, which btw Barack Obama is involved with Annenberg and money has flown in both directions with the two. Tell me thats not a little biased website to check FACTS. Remember, when people tell the truth the story stays the same, the truth is the truth. When people lie, everyone gets mixed up. Barack Obama says he was born at a certain hospital in Hawaii and his half sister says he was born at a different hospital in Hawaii. Barack Obama's own paternal grandmother is going around telling everyone that shes so proud of her grandson and that he's going to become the next president of the United States of America and she cant believe it because she was in the delivery room with his mother, his half sister and brother when she gave birth to him in KENYA! There's some lying going on here. If you're born in Kenya, you cannot be President of the United States. Secondly, under further investigation remember when he went to school in Indonesia for 4 years? Yah well look at the time period that he went to school in Indonesia. Look up history, Indonesia was at WAR at the time he was in school there. At that time, Indonesia did NOT allow dual citizenships and if you wanted to go to school in Indonesia you had to BE a CITIZEN of INDONESIA. Therefore Barack Obama's step-father had to of made him a citizen so that he could go to school. If you check it out, he was a citizen of Indonesia and they didnt allow dual citizenships, so if he were to come back to the United States which he ended up doing... he would have to go through immigration and customs. Therefore when coming back and applying for citizenship he would have to then become a NATURALIZED CITIZEN not a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN and therefore indeed a Naturalized Citizen cannot be President of the United States of America. Also, can I just say... someone who doesnt value the American Flag does not deserve to be our president, forget his qualifications. Our flag is what our country was built on and if you cant respect it then go fuck yourself. John McCain isnt the best choice for President HOWEVER, he's a much better pick than Obama and McCain is a war VET and bled for OUR country. He's an American Hero and America should wake up and vote him as President or you think it's bad now... you just wait...
Ciao

Just because you took a civics class in middle school does not make you an expert. Where did you get you infomation Elizabeth Hassleback? Yesterday Allan Greenspan testified to congress that the problems that we are having now is from deregulation of the banks, stock markets and other financial firms. I am going to put this in simple terms for you to understand. Over the past 6 years is the equivalent of you going out there writing checks. You will get by for a day but once those checks start bouncing your ass is in trouble. That is what happened to Wall Street. I BLAME BOTH THE REPUBLICANS AND DEMORCRATS FOR THIS PROBLEM!!!!!! Bush let his cronies fuck this shit up while the dems sat back and watched!!!! Truthfully I think that is worst not having the balls to stand up!!! History is going to look at this time as this country being raped and piledge!!!! Like some kind of pirate movie. You are right about the experience that Obama have. I would have been for Clinton but she did not have the guts to stand up against the war. This country is going in the wrong direction and I love this country too much to go backwards. By the way I have a degree in accounting, economics, poly sci, sports mgmt and an MBA... I know what I am talking about...

[KazDog]

actually KAZ the reason that people are defaulting on their home loans is because of variable rate interests rates which are garbage and the fact that banks were giving away loans to BUMS ON THE STREET. You could pretty much get a home loan the past couple of years if you could sign your name on the dotted line... oh and we'll give you 0% financing for the first year, oh and this and that and this and that and when it came down to it people were like oh wow I can afford this, this isnt bad then their interest rate changed the specials went away and people got fucked. Banks should have held bigger requirements and they fucked themselves. Hang on while I give this BUM off the streets a mortage for $300,000 so he can have a house. FUCK fannie mae and Freddie Mac. They sucked. The republicans wanted to regulate those companies because we realized there was a problem. The democrats and their on record as well saying there was no problem with Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae. Are you kidding me? You couldnt see problems with the company especially when the own owner of the business is giving himself bonuses upwards of hundreds of thousands of dollars, sucking his company money dry and fucking over his business. Oh and BTW, he's an economic advisor to Barack OBAMA FYI..

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were PUBLICLY traded companies. Why do you want to blame the Liberals for there failure? It is the LIBERAL Congress now in effect that is agreeing to the takeover by the government of Fannie and Freddie in hopes of saving the economy. Quit trying to blame Liberals for handing money to people wanting homes. That's just BS. And BTW, both Conservatives and Liberals signed off on Fannie and Freddie years ago. THEY HAVEN'T FAILED FOR 70 YEARS. Doesn't that tell you something about what the Bush administration has done to the country? Are you that naive?

People were given loans by many banks because things were rolling for the first few years of the Bush admin. Then came Katrina, the war, the tax cuts to the wealthy, the gas inflation, the trillions in borrowed money in the federal deficit and then the people started defaulting. And just so you know, the majority of the people in this country would NOT own a home if it wasn't for Fannie and Freddie. THAT IS A FACT. And that is why the Govt stepped in, Right and Left agreeing that it had to be bailed out....

KAZ

[kslab28liver]

I am voting for McCain, that Palin is a Milf

[BigWeiner]

But you are the one that wants to talk about Palin's wardrobe.....

Yea, issues and every once in a while a wtf. You too, have no issue with $150,000 spent on clothes? All candidates get clothes from the campaign, of course, but $150,000, how could that not be an issue? I'd be pissed of is Obama got $150,000 for clothes, if he does, somebody point it out.

[Three Jack]

Yea, issues and every once in a while a wtf. You too, have no issue with $150,000 spent on clothes? All candidates get clothes from the campaign, of course, but $150,000, how could that not be an issue? I'd be pissed of is Obama got $150,000 for clothes, if he does, somebody point it out.

Never said I thought it was okay...and I do no think it is right. But, and correct me if I am worng, I don't recall you being upset that Obama spent $3 million to move his DNC speech outside. Where was the outrage then? I would say that is an equal waste of money and 20X more expensive!

Why no outrage...because it wasn't convenient?