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  • I love how youre making excuses for this guy. It shows youre totally biased and one sided in your arguments. I respect your right to your opinions but I would bet the house you and others would be calling OBAMA A WEAK, LIBERAL DEMOCRAT THAT MAKES OUR COUNTRY WEAK IF THIS HAD HAPPENED UNDER HIS WATCH. You have guys on here blaming him for failed attacks, you have that thief cheney and his butch daughter traveling around charging tea partiers 1000 BUCKS PER PERSON TO HEAR THIS SAME CRAP. The ironic thing is he was too busy stealing through haliburton too pay attention to the growing terrorist threat which happened under this buffoons watch.

    Could you imaginge obama traveling around right now telling americans how less safe they were if 9-11 had happened under his watch? What MORONS WOULD BE PAYING TO SEE THAT SHIT?

    Stop making excuses for this joke of an ex-president. He took a huge surplus that clinton built, nearly bankrupt our country, let terrorists run rampid in our country, was weak,stupid and ignorant. If obama lets crap like this happens under his watch I will not making excuses for his ass in 2.5 years.
    Last edited by musclemann; 05-16-2010, 10:37 PM.

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    • Originally posted by bwade210 View Post

      Ive always wondered and maybe you can enlighten the rest of us as to what you think George W Bush should have done at that moment. Clearly at the time he nor any other person had any way to know the magnitude of what that day was to mean in the history of our country. In my opinion he sat there in front of those children while trying to remain calm and be there for those children. Then afterwards boarded Air Force One to conduct business. Did you want him to jump out of his chair in histerics and start shaking everyone by the shoulders asking what the hell are we going to do? Did you want him to grab Obamas cape and jump out the window and fly to New York City? I guess the real question is would Bush jumping up at that moment and running out of the classroom made you have felt any better about that day or changed any opinion you have of the man. A man of which you appear to have a deep hatred for, all the while never having met and only trusting various media outlets portrayal of him to be what you know of the man. He's just a man, flesh and blood like Obama. Nothing more, nothing less. He's like you and like me, smarter than most of us on this site.
      I was never a fan of Bush as President. I personally thought he did a horrible job, just as Obama is doing IMO. With that said, i agree with this 100%

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      • Originally posted by musclemann View Post
        I love how youre making excuses for this guy. It shows youre totally biased and one sided in your arguments. I respect your right to your opinions but I would bet the house you and others would be calling OBAMA A WEAK, LIBERAL DEMOCRAT THAT MAKES OUR COUNTRY WEAK IF THIS HAD HAPPENED UNDER HIS WATCH. You have guys on here blaming him for failed attacks, you have that thief cheney and his butch daughter traveling around charging tea partiers 1000 BUCKS PER PERSON TO HEAR THIS SAME CRAP. The ironic thing is he was too busy stealing through haliburton too pay attention to the growing terrorist threat which happened under this buffoons watch.

        Could you imaginge obama traveling around right now telling americans how less safe they were if 9-11 had happened under his watch? What MORONS WOULD BE PAYING TO SEE THAT SHIT?

        Stop making excuses for this joke of an ex-president. He took a huge surplus that clinton built, nearly bankrupt our country, let terrorists run rampid in our country, was weak,stupid and ignorant. If obama lets crap like this happens under his watch I will not making excuses for his ass in 2.5 years.

        If I can pose the following questions:

        Was any of this "surplus" the result of monies received b/c of an internet bubble? How about money from fraudulent company activity? (ie Enron)

        If (butch) is charging that amount, AND people are willing to pay that amount, isn't that capitalism at it's finest? The free market determining whether or not you want to see her/him? You are free to pay that money and go, or free to save the money and not go. You are against that?

        Do you t hink there was ANY terrorist buildup under previous administrations? Surely you can't believe that the whole plot of 9/11 was organized exclusively on Bush's watch can you? Do you t hink the terrorist networks were ever emboldened by previous attacks under other administrations?

        Do you think the current admin's spending is lowering o*--ur increasing our financial solvency?,even as investment is needed in our economy and President Bush spent like a drunken sailor.

        I know y ou seeem to prefer to play a constant "what if" game, and you do it to point out alledged hypocrisy, but I am asking you to answer not in your "what if" made up scenarios but the real life ones described above.

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        • Originally posted by Jamaicanman View Post
          If I can pose the following questions:

          Was any of this "surplus" the result of monies received b/c of an internet bubble? How about money from fraudulent company activity? (ie Enron)

          If (butch) is charging that amount, AND people are willing to pay that amount, isn't that capitalism at it's finest? The free market determining whether or not you want to see her/him? You are free to pay that money and go, or free to save the money and not go. You are against that?

          Do you t hink there was ANY terrorist buildup under previous administrations? Surely you can't believe that the whole plot of 9/11 was organized exclusively on Bush's watch can you? Do you t hink the terrorist networks were ever emboldened by previous attacks under other administrations?

          Do you think the current admin's spending is lowering o*--ur increasing our financial solvency?,even as investment is needed in our economy and President Bush spent like a drunken sailor.

          I know y ou seeem to prefer to play a constant "what if" game, and you do it to point out alledged hypocrisy, but I am asking you to answer not in your "what if" made up scenarios but the real life ones described above.

          the internet bubble was under clinton's watch, but most dem's don't ever mention that. that was worse than the latest stock bubble.

          enron was also on clintons watch, but most dem's don't talk about that ether.

          if they think bush bankrupted the country, what do they call the current clown that has bigger deficits than bush!
          “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have."

          Gerald Ford

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          • Originally posted by bwade210 View Post
            We haven't even discussed his sitting in a classroom and not reacting as we were being attacked. To me it was who he was. Just not equipped for the job
            Ive always wondered and maybe you can enlighten the rest of us as to what you think George W Bush should have done at that moment. Clearly at the time he nor any other person had any way to know the magnitude of what that day was to mean in the history of our country. In my opinion he sat there in front of those children while trying to remain calm and be there for those children. Then afterwards boarded Air Force One to conduct business. Did you want him to jump out of his chair in histerics and start shaking everyone by the shoulders asking what the hell are we going to do? Did you want him to grab Obamas cape and jump out the window and fly to New York City? I guess the real question is would Bush jumping up at that moment and running out of the classroom made you have felt any better about that day or changed any opinion you have of the man. A man of which you appear to have a deep hatred for, all the while never having met and only trusting various media outlets portrayal of him to be what you know of the man. He's just a man, flesh and blood like Obama. Nothing more, nothing less. He's like you and like me, smarter than most of us on this site.[/QUOTE]

            Should he have jumped up in hysterics? No. However as he gets whispered to him that we are under attack he could calmly stand up and remove himself from the classroom. Sitting there like he did was not acceptable. If that was obama most rep would be claiming he sat there because he condones what is happening.
            He didn't go right to air force one to conduct business. He went to a nearby classroom and conducted business watching cnn

            He decision to sit there was just the first in many wrong decisions responding to 9/11.

            To suggest he sst there to keep calm in front of children is just silly. A child has never seen someone stand up and excuse themself from the room? That is just the convient excuse for being a clueless president.

            Your whole obama cape thing is crazy. I voted for hillary so obama is no superman to me. That is just another rep tag line like" the annointed one" and many others that makes no sense or relevant to any issue.

            Yes it is true I never met gw bush. So does that exclude me from having an opinion on him? If that was the case nobody here could bash obama like they do. I've see gw as president and consider it the biggest disaster politically in the history of this country. Yes, without ever meeting him. Which matters nothing because with 24hr news and internet u can find all u need to know to form an opinion
            Fire BAS and Hache Man. Don't forget Wayne1218 is a piece of garbage. Fest zit a total fraud still talks about me. You Trump voters tired of winning yet? Lmao

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            • Everything you are saying is in hind site. It's like me saying "I should not have played 5 units on PHX last night". No one, not even the president knew what that day would be. How hard is that for you to understand? So he didn't get up and politley excuse himself. Had he done so, he would just have likely been criticized now for doing that. Big fucking deal. I would "bash Obama in that situation because we all know what Obama would do.
              Leave the room, find the nearest mic, and blame the previous administrations short coming as to the cause of this.
              Getting what info you trust in GW Bush from the media is the same as making stuff up on your own. It's all biased one way or the other and I'm sure you watch the stations that portay Bush as a real disappointment. That's your right, just be able to admit taut it's possible it could be way off. I think if you met him you would find you were wrong about him on many things.
              To the fact that you voted for Hilary, that's says more about your views than any previous posts.
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              • Originally posted by bwade210 View Post
                Everything you are saying is in hind site. It's like me saying "I should not have played 5 units on PHX last night". No one, not even the president knew what that day would be. How hard is that for you to understand? So he didn't get up and politley excuse himself. Had he done so, he would just have likely been criticized now for doing that. Big fucking deal. I would "bash Obama in that situation because we all know what Obama would do.
                Leave the room, find the nearest mic, and blame the previous administrations short coming as to the cause of this.
                Getting what info you trust in GW Bush from the media is the same as making stuff up on your own. It's all biased one way or the other and I'm sure you watch the stations that portay Bush as a real disappointment. That's your right, just be able to admit taut it's possible it could be way off. I think if you met him you would find you were wrong about him on many things.
                To the fact that you voted for Hilary, that's says more about your views than any previous posts.
                The fact that you voted for bush tells me everything I need to know about you

                How do you know what obama would have done? You never met him so you would never know? According to your logic I don't think u can comment accurately without having met him. By your logic we should never comment on someone without having met them.

                I saw gw bush policies, I watched his decisions and they were horrific. Therfore i formed an opinion. The same way u have formed your opinion about obama. As usual with many republicans its ok for them but not for others

                I never said bush could see this coming.how hard is this for u to understand? Once again u are missing the entire point. He didn't see it coming but once it was here it was handled poorly from the moment it was whispered to him.
                Fire BAS and Hache Man. Don't forget Wayne1218 is a piece of garbage. Fest zit a total fraud still talks about me. You Trump voters tired of winning yet? Lmao

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                • What was whispered to him? I know, but do you? Maybe that's why your so hung up on his actions that followed.
                  My opinion of Barack Hussein Obama stems from the fact that he allocates responsibility to the Bush administration weekly. I think the United States is tired of it. He comes off as very weak when he does it.
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                  • Originally posted by bwade210 View Post
                    What was whispered to him? I know, but do you? Maybe that's why your so hung up on his actions that followed.
                    My opinion of Barack Hussein Obama stems from the fact that he allocates responsibility to the Bush administration weekly. I think the United States is tired of it. He comes off as very weak when he does it.
                    "Sir, a second plane has hit the world trade center, the United States in under attack". That is what was whispered to him. Now upon that news don't u think its appropriate to do something other then sit there? Please stop defending that. An obvious blunder among many in his admin.

                    The fact is we were in a major hole when gw bush left office. Time is needed to dig out. Some decisions are gonna be unpopular.
                    Fire BAS and Hache Man. Don't forget Wayne1218 is a piece of garbage. Fest zit a total fraud still talks about me. You Trump voters tired of winning yet? Lmao

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                    • Those words did not describe the magnitude of what happened that day and Bush getting up would not have been the answer to that moment.
                      And by tough decisions do you mean making decisions that are burying our nation further into debt to the taxpayers?
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                      • Originally posted by bwade210 View Post
                        And by tough decisions do you mean making decisions that are burying our nation further into debt to the taxpayers?
                        I would think he was referring to the tough decisions to increase the size of our deficit (even with Bush inheriting a surplus) to unsustainable levels, or escalating a war that now tops 1000 deaths (mostly in 2010..who was Prez then?), or wasting a year for a HC law that is a bait and switch when it comes to revenues/fees/taxes of 10 years for 6 years worth of services (how much will the bill be when illegals get amnesty?), to ramming a stimulus package down the throats at a 1 trillion dollar cost promising unemployment to not crack 8% (think it's down to 9.9% now), to calling the police dept's actions "stupid" b/c his black buddy was acting like an ass, to throwing his support behing political loser after loser? Forgot to add sitting with a thumb up his ass while his Interior Dept and admin watch one of the worst, if not the worst, oil disaster.
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                        • Who gives a flying fuck what GWB did the morning of 911!

                          Geeze, you people have nothing better to talk about than that????

                          Can you guys believe that the day the bomb was dropped on Hiroshima the Japanese emperor was drinking tea right before! WHO GIVES a FUCK! It's 2010, GWB isn't President
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                          • Fucking unreal, people would argue stupid shit, I know there are some no pussy getting door knobs in this thread!

                            Lol, u guys need to go get some ass and let go of all that hate
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                            • Originally posted by jcindaville View Post
                              Who gives a flying fuck what GWB did the morning of 911!

                              Geeze, you people have nothing better to talk about than that????

                              Can you guys believe that the day the bomb was dropped on Hiroshima the Japanese emperor was drinking tea right before! WHO GIVES a FUCK! It's 2010, GWB isn't President
                              Jc you are scaring me. I am agreeing with you more and more. Like you said this is 2010. Get over it. Let's move on.

                              Besides that the pres does not call the shots. He is just a mouthpiece

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                              • Originally posted by jcindaville View Post
                                Who gives a flying fuck what GWB did the morning of 911!

                                Geeze, you people have nothing better to talk about than that????

                                they don't want to talk about the abysmal record of the current president, so the keep going back to bush.
                                “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have."

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