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  • #46
    Originally posted by BettorsChat View Post
    Anyone that thinks Bush wasn't a fuck up is either in denial or a sheep. In your case a troll.
    Could you imagine if obama had let 9-11 happen in his first year of his term. These open minded, fair minded, objective individuals would be so understanding.

    The hypocrisy is so-over the top with certain people its unreal. You have one guy who has in his signature how many days left that someone with zero experience in the united states senate can run for president. That shows his true intelligence right there. Then all they do is look for posts to jump and start shit with people. They started attacking the current president from his first day in office, he hadnt even moved his freeking suitcase in and they're ripping him.

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    Last edited by musclemann; 02-17-2010, 11:43 PM.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by musclemann View Post
      Could you imagine if obama had let 9-11 happen in his first year of his term. These open minded, fair minded, objective individuals would be so understanding.

      The hypocrisy is so-over the top with certain people its unreal. You have one guy who has in his signature how many days left that someone with zero experience in the united states senate can run for president. That shows his true intelligence right there. Then all they do is look for posts to jump and start shit with people. They started attacking the current president from his first day in office, he hadnt even moved his freeking suitcase in and they're ripping him.

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      Since you directed at me, I'll respond. Odd though that you can only read my sig!!

      Scott Brown countdown is the same as your savior, so I wouldn't be so stupid as to throw around "intelligence" comments.

      Sad thing is you can only deal in hypotheticals (what if this, what if that) and can't address a fact if it was loaded on your barbell.

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      • #48
        you got it tony nicco

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        • #49
          Originally posted by husker View Post
          if you think any politician "goes along with" the other side for any other reason than they are following the popular side, you are completely naive. i guess you forgot all the stuff about stealing the election. then bush got a pass because of 9/11, then that wore off and it was just as bad as now.

          the banks weren't going broke, that was fixed on bush's watch. (i didn't like it at all!)

          the level of unemployment rising is pure speculation.

          he should have let the car co's go into bankruptcy.

          he should have pulled out of both wars. iraq was winding down, but he INCREASED troops in that vietnam carbon copy afghanistan! "tighten up"??? what are you talking about!

          he passed a 800 million dollar pork bill putting the country in more debt!!!

          tax cuts are a good thing!

          oil prices are because of the bad economy.

          unemployment has gone up a lot since he has been in office. i love how you pick out the last month and notthe huge rise before that.

          i always get a kick out of the stock market thing. when rep use the stock market as a measure of a successful economy, dem's say that is just for the rich. now the table is turned. what hypocrites!

          all that great depression stuff was a bunch of BS!! it was just a way of scaring people into going along a bunch of crooks, and you fell for it.

          all the spending is going to come due some time. i just have ONE question for you. HOW IS THIS GOING TO BE PAYED BACK AND WHEN?
          You know what this sounds like??? Blah, blah, blah, blah......Same ol' crap from you because that's all you got.

          OK Husker. Great ideas. Let GM go bankrupt? That's so ridiculous it doesn't deserve a response. GM employs around 244,000 people and is the largest car manufacturer in the world. Great idea. Let them go bankrupt. Wow. Smart thinking.

          Pull out of both wars? Again, unbelievable. We decimate and leave both countries fucked up for good. That will solve the problems in the Middle East? Leave both oil rich countries behind, like the greedy bastards surrounding both countries wouldn't love that? Iraq would become Iran in a matter of days. And how's that not going to affect oil prices? Please....answer with a modicum of intelligence.

          Paid back to who when? The majority of the stimulus hasn't even been spent. Did you forget the two stimulus tax cuts Bush imposed that cost into the trillions?

          Huge rise in unemployment? When he took office, it was already high and it was projected to go well over 10% in the year following him getting into office. It's dropped back to 9.7.

          What hypocrites? The stock market did nothing but fall the last 2 years during the Bush term and has done nothing but go up for the last year. Why?

          Oil prices being steady are because of the bad economy? OMG. Yeah right, that's why they went up to $5 a gallon during those prosperous Bush years. Again, answer intelligently. Bush is out, and so are the days of his pals getting rich at the expense of everyone in this country......
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          I'm just here so I won't get fined....

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          • #50
            i dont even know why you guys waste your breath
            jordanrules..................

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            • #51
              Political Ping Pong at its best fellas !

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              • #52
                Originally posted by KazDog View Post
                . Let GM go bankrupt? That's so ridiculous it doesn't deserve a response. GM employs around 244,000 people and is the largest car manufacturer in the world. Great idea. Let them go bankrupt. Wow. Smart thinking.

                ..
                GM shold have been let go into BK. As I am sure you know, the company still could have been open and running, and with the scam "cash for clunkers" in the pipeline and the proposed govt backing of warranties to address buyer concerns, I think it would have ben ok. BK would have allowed the company to restructure it's debt and not be taken over by the union at the expense of the bondholders. Bailing out GM was a payback to unions imo. Do you really think that money is going to be paid back?

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by BettorsChat View Post
                  There's a video if you haven't seen it showing how they are screwing everyone. The won't do loan modifications so they force the homeowners into foreclosure then they can short sale the home and actually make money. Once they reach $2.5 billion in foreclosures then they can start dipping their hands into the treasuries monies. It's the rich getting rich because the fucking gov't allowed them to do this deal this way with a guarantee. It's sick!
                  Monte ... This is 90% of my bitch ... I do not care who is in office .. who is in charge ... this needs to be fixed .. and until it is we are going to be in trouble ...

                  OMG, isn't this common sense

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                  • #54
                    Fits you perfectly ...

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Spark View Post
                      Fits you perfectly ...

                      spark I started the thread and you responded. I didn't come in ur I'm moving to mexico thread and flame or those 2 guys who always come into others posts and start shit. That's trolling.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by KazDog View Post
                        You know what this sounds like??? Blah, blah, blah, blah......Same ol' crap from you because that's all you got.

                        OK Husker. Great ideas. Let GM go bankrupt? That's so ridiculous it doesn't deserve a response. GM employs around 244,000 people and is the largest car manufacturer in the world. Great idea. Let them go bankrupt. Wow. Smart thinking.

                        Pull out of both wars? Again, unbelievable. We decimate and leave both countries fucked up for good. That will solve the problems in the Middle East? Leave both oil rich countries behind, like the greedy bastards surrounding both countries wouldn't love that? Iraq would become Iran in a matter of days. And how's that not going to affect oil prices? Please....answer with a modicum of intelligence.

                        Paid back to who when? The majority of the stimulus hasn't even been spent. Did you forget the two stimulus tax cuts Bush imposed that cost into the trillions?

                        Huge rise in unemployment? When he took office, it was already high and it was projected to go well over 10% in the year following him getting into office. It's dropped back to 9.7.

                        What hypocrites? The stock market did nothing but fall the last 2 years during the Bush term and has done nothing but go up for the last year. Why?

                        Oil prices being steady are because of the bad economy? OMG. Yeah right, that's why they went up to $5 a gallon during those prosperous Bush years. Again, answer intelligently. Bush is out, and so are the days of his pals getting rich at the expense of everyone in this country......
                        "Leave both oil rich countries" please explain how afghanistan is oil rich.

                        you don't think oil prices are correlated to the world economy? you are saying oil prices weren't high when the stock market was at it's all time high?

                        i am glad you are showing how intelligent you are.

                        once again you conveniently leave out the stock market going up for 6 bush years.


                        how could i make it more clear!!

                        the deficit that you hero has increased, how and when will it start to be payed back? i know you don't want to answer, but try and post something remotely intelligent. maybe you could call a friend.

                        let me say once again for the brain dead people here. I DON'T LIKE ALL THE SPENDING THAT WENT ON DURING THE BUSH YEARS INCLUDING THE BAILOUTS!!
                        “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have."

                        Gerald Ford

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Jamaicanman View Post
                          GM shold have been let go into BK. As I am sure you know, the company still could have been open and running, and with the scam "cash for clunkers" in the pipeline and the proposed govt backing of warranties to address buyer concerns, I think it would have ben ok. BK would have allowed the company to restructure it's debt and not be taken over by the union at the expense of the bondholders. Bailing out GM was a payback to unions imo. Do you really think that money is going to be paid back?

                          right on the money!



                          except for this, judging on his last post.

                          "As I am sure you know"

                          i am sure he DOESN'T know.
                          “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have."

                          Gerald Ford

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by jordanrules23 View Post
                            i dont even know why you guys waste your breath
                            i said the same thing in another thread. i do try and limit my responses because it's like debating a wall with most of the obama worshipers.
                            “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have."

                            Gerald Ford

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by husker View Post
                              "Leave both oil rich countries" please explain how afghanistan is oil rich.

                              you don't think oil prices are correlated to the world economy? you are saying oil prices weren't high when the stock market was at it's all time high?

                              i am glad you are showing how intelligent you are.

                              once again you conveniently leave out the stock market going up for 6 bush years.


                              how could i make it more clear!!

                              the deficit that you hero has increased, how and when will it start to be payed back? i know you don't want to answer, but try and post something remotely intelligent. maybe you could call a friend.

                              let me say once again for the brain dead people here. I DON'T LIKE ALL THE SPENDING THAT WENT ON DURING THE BUSH YEARS INCLUDING THE BAILOUTS!!
                              There are oil interests in Afghanistan whether through a pipeline or not. Bush had oil and energy interests when he invaded...Look it up.

                              So according to YOU, the expert, oil prices correlate to the rising of the stock market or the all time high of the stock market? Funny, the stock market has sky rocketed lately back up to nearing that all time high. Why aren't we paying $5 a gallon for gas?

                              And you still don't get it....I gave a list of things that Obama did to help in the recovery. So far, everything he has done has worked for the most part. The bailouts, the stimulus, consumer confidence......

                              So instead of avoiding the question with more questions, answer mine because you are such an expert....

                              What more could he have done to fix the mess we were in? And don't give me that bullshit that we weren't headed for a depression, because we were already in one. EVERYONE keeps harping that he's done nothing. What should he do or should have done besides what he already has?

                              I love how you guys cry, DO SOMETHING.....Do what? Tell me what he could have done because you're such an expert on how to solve an economic crisis that should take years to overcome.....
                              [email protected]

                              I'm just here so I won't get fined....

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by KazDog View Post
                                So according to YOU, the expert, oil prices correlate to the rising of the stock market or the all time high of the stock market? Funny, the stock market has sky rocketed lately back up to nearing that all time high. Why aren't we paying $5 a gallon for gas?

                                And you still don't get it....I gave a list of things that Obama did to help in the recovery. So far, everything he has done has worked for the most part. The bailouts, the stimulus, consumer confidence......


                                :
                                Dow at 10k and change..all time high 14k+..40% off there and you define that as "nearing"?

                                And you are now giving Obama the credit for the "bank bailout", but wasn't that done under TARP? When was TARP passed "expert"?

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