Liar,liar.all dems fell for obamas lying ass

[Spark]

You guys are hilarious. You were all backing Bush when we went to war,

What are you talking about?? Pls do not sit there and tell me I was happy that we were going to war ...

[PhilJr]

There's one thing that I will say about this war were currently in and that is that I believe we should pull out of it. We are wasting at least 1 billion a month on this war and bin laden isn't even in Afganastan. We went into Iraq which had nothing to do with 911 when we should have went after Bin Laden and had the best shot at getting him then. Of course Bush's family doing business with Laden's family didn't have anything to do with that And the amount of monies that bush and cheney were going to make off the war in Iraq had nothing to do with it either

Wasn't the "best" shot at getting Bin Laden during the Clinton administration???

[Spark]

Obviously from the first post in here I'm the "know it all" someone is referring to. Do we have to go over that Iraq and Afghanistan are two separate wars? Seriously?

President Obama campaigned on getting the troops OUT of Iraq, where we shouldn't have been in the first place and focusing on the original target, the terrorists in Afghanistan/Pakistan. Do you people only read the crap that is fed to you by Right wing propaganda machines?

I never once said anything about Afghanistan. Please find where I did and re-quote it. I'm sure Husker can dig it up.

My original claim is accurate in that thread so long ago. It dealt with Iraq. Obama said he will start to send troops home from Iraq and I reinforced that with several sources that said it was true. Clinton has also stated that there is going to be a timeline for complete troop withdrawal and has told the Iraqi's they need to know that will be happening soon.

The Bush Administration never told Iraq we would be pulling out at some point. Bush always told the Iraqi's they could have all the time they needed.

It's unfortunate that he's having to send more troops to Afghanistan but it's become a necessary evil. I'm not happy about it, but I support that decision. As Weiner just stated, yall were plenty fine backing Bush for starting this bullshit, now you're expecting one man to end it all tomorrow. Sorry but it taint that easy....

Kaz I do agree with a lot of what you just said .. certainly not the part that I was happy we were going to war ..

But you have to admit .. HE never should have said HE was going to pull troops out when in actuality they are sending more over there .. need them there or not .. HE never should have said it .. and these statements that HE makes just makes me dislike HIM more and more ..

WHEW!! That is as civil as I can explain it ..

[husker]

Do you think this decision is Obama's only? Is not the leader of our soldiers telling us that we need more men and that we can win this war? And isn't congress and senators both Republicans and Democrats voting to increase the troops? If so then you can't blame it on Obama.

yes it is, 100%!!

congress only controls the MONEY, the president controls where and when the troops are deployed. congress isn't the commander and chief. but then, i guess this just doesn't fit into your agenda.

[husker]

see what i mean about libs always blaming bush. LMAO Hey tool shed BUSH didnt get us into this war CONGRESS DID!!!!!!!!
i swear to god i cant even discuss this stuff anymore.

the president can start things, but at some point he is going to have to come to congress for money for any war. that's one of the checks and balances that the founding fathers put into the govt. both branches of govt have responsibility in any long term military undertaking. partisans on both sides will spin this to try and mislead people.

[husker]

The Bush Administration never told Iraq we would be pulling out at some point. Bush always told the Iraqi's they could have all the time they needed.

Friday, July 18, 2008

For first time, Bush agrees to 'time horizon' for Iraq pullout

The United States and Iraq have agreed to a "general time horizon" for further reductions of U.S. combat troops in Iraq, the White House said Friday, the first time the Bush administration has agreed to set any kind of timeline for troop withdrawals.

For first time, Bush agrees to 'time horizon' for Iraq pullout | McClatchy



Aug. 22, 2008

Bush, Iraq PM Discuss Troop Pullout Plan

2011 Eyed As Target Date For U.S. Troops To Leave But No Deal Or Timeline Finalized

Bush, Iraq PM Discuss Troop Pullout Plan - CBS News



looks like you are completely wrong again, but nice try on the left wing propaganda. your posts are like swiss cheese, full of holes.

[husker]

It's unfortunate that he's having to send more troops to Afghanistan but it's become a necessary evil. I'm not happy about it, but I support that decision.

please tell everyone why "it's become a necessary evil". i can't wait for this response!

[husker]

I never once said anything about Afghanistan. Please find where I did and re-quote it. I'm sure Husker can dig it up.

what specifically are you saying here? are you saying you supported bush going into afghanistan?

[KazDog]

Friday, July 18, 2008

For first time, Bush agrees to 'time horizon' for Iraq pullout

The United States and Iraq have agreed to a "general time horizon" for further reductions of U.S. combat troops in Iraq, the White House said Friday, the first time the Bush administration has agreed to set any kind of timeline for troop withdrawals.

For first time, Bush agrees to 'time horizon' for Iraq pullout | McClatchy



Aug. 22, 2008

Bush, Iraq PM Discuss Troop Pullout Plan

2011 Eyed As Target Date For U.S. Troops To Leave But No Deal Or Timeline Finalized

Bush, Iraq PM Discuss Troop Pullout Plan - CBS News



looks like you are completely wrong again, but nice try on the left wing propaganda. your posts are like swiss cheese, full of holes.

Do you READ the stories or the posts or just post the crap to make yourself look good? Try reading and comprehending for once.....

I said, Bush never gave them a pullout date and said we are out of their for good.

From your stories....."general time horizon" for further reductions of U.S. combat troops

but the White House said it wasn't a reversal of President Bush's long opposition to any fixed schedule for troop reductions, including the veto of bills that included timetables for withdrawal.

"There are still discussions ongoing," said White House spokesman Gordon Johndroe. "It's not done until it's done. And the discussions are really ongoing. And ongoing and ongoing. But hopefully drawing to a conclusion



From your story again....THIS IS CALLED A DIRECT TIMELINE FOR THEM TO BE OUT.

Obama, the Democratic nominee in waiting, wants all U.S. forces out of Iraq within 16 months of his taking office, saying they are needed in Afghanistan. Violence in Afghanistan and neighboring Pakistan has increased due to a resurgent Taliban and political instability in Pakistan.

[KazDog]

what specifically are you saying here? are you saying you supported bush going into afghanistan?

NO. I did not say that or anything about Afghanistan. Vols and I had an argument a month back, about troop withdrawal from Iraq and Obama wasn't pulling any out of there. I had posted 3 links where 4000 troops were set to withdrawal in the next few months.

[KazDog]

please tell everyone why "it's become a necessary evil". i can't wait for this response!

You cant wait for it?

It's a necessary evil to send more in and Obama has said it ALL along that more troops would need to be deployed there because that is where the Taliban is and that is where our REAL threat is of terrorist to this country. He claims that more troops now and a pull out later next year, if not a complete withdrawal.

You seem to have a clear problem with understanding withdrawing troops and setting a time table for COMPLETE withdrawal.

[KazDog]

the president can start things, but at some point he is going to have to come to congress for money for any war. that's one of the checks and balances that the founding fathers put into the govt. both branches of govt have responsibility in any long term military undertaking. partisans on both sides will spin this to try and mislead people.

see what i mean about libs always blaming bush. LMAO Hey tool shed BUSH didnt get us into this war CONGRESS DID!!!!!!!!
i swear to god i cant even discuss this stuff anymore.

Hey TOOL.....Your buddy Bush is who STARTED THE WAR IN IRAQ. Congress had to vote to approve. Of course they approved it, if you didnt vote for it at the time, you'd be labeled unpatriotic. Sheesh!

KAZ

[Jamaicanman]

Hey TOOL.....Your buddy Bush is who STARTED THE WAR IN IRAQ. Congress had to vote to approve. Of course they approved it, if you didnt vote for it at the time, you'd be labeled unpatriotic. Sheesh!

KAZ

So according to this logic, since the war is now unpopular, Congress would be called patriotic in they vote against?

[BigWeiner]

What are you talking about?? Pls do not sit there and tell me I was happy that we were going to war ...

I didn't say anything about being happy, but NOW, after years of over there, NOW you're worried about sending more troops, because it's Obama's decision, and he's the worst ever, and life sucks, and all we do is post how horrible everything is. It's a joke. The damage is done, soldiers and civilians that died, ass loads of money has already been spent, and NOW you're outraged? You gotta be kidding me. Obama decides that best course of action to get us out of this mess, that "congress" got us in (right Dimer?), is to send some more troops, with the goal of pulling of our troops out. Makes a lot sense to me, and I'm totally against this dogshit "war".

[jordanrules23]

Friday, July 18, 2008

For first time, Bush agrees to 'time horizon' for Iraq pullout

The United States and Iraq have agreed to a "general time horizon" for further reductions of U.S. combat troops in Iraq, the White House said Friday, the first time the Bush administration has agreed to set any kind of timeline for troop withdrawals.

For first time, Bush agrees to 'time horizon' for Iraq pullout | McClatchy


Aug. 22, 2008

Bush, Iraq PM Discuss Troop Pullout Plan

2011 Eyed As Target Date For U.S. Troops To Leave But No Deal Or Timeline Finalized

Bush, Iraq PM Discuss Troop Pullout Plan - CBS News



looks like you are completely wrong again, but nice try on the left wing propaganda. your posts are like swiss cheese, full of holes.