Imus Fired from CBS Radio Too!

[Kaptain]

gbell

I hope that a person of your age and wisdom is not agreeing that there isn't a double standard? Certainly someone who posted that they were there from the early days of segregation to modern day has seen this double standard?

Note----I say some rings of truth to it.....And I think he made some good points, as you agreed with by saying so in post #45....

Do I think there is double standards here....you bet ya....and believe you me, theres plenty more where that one comes from (double standars that is)...........

What started out as a good thing, IMO, has gone overboard, and some people, not all, use the law to their advantage....

The world is full of some good, some bad, people...This kind of subject, along with Religion and Politics, is very difficult to discuss.....Feelings get hurt, and some times, words are mis interpreted..........

We still have work to do on the above mentioned subjects, before one can readily discuss em without conroversy, and you and I both know, that will never happen....

and yes, I've seen the early days, didn't like em, and now I see some modern day reversals, that I don't like either..........But after reading these comments the last few days, and knowing I'm from the "Old School", I've decided to let all you younger guys work this out and resolve a very touchy subject and problem....

I think I'm too set in my ways to discuss these topics....so you guys have at it.....

I do respect all and everyones opinions, the key to my reaction, is how it's presented....

You asked a question in a Civil/professional manner, and I replied........Hope this clarifies my opinion a little better, and hope you and others can right a wrong, better than the "Old Generation" did before.....kapt

[gbell]

Hopefully there is some "good" that can come out of the Imus situation, and that is the ability to talk about the subjects of race relations, double standards, what's acceptable/unacceptable, etc.

The problem, in my opinion, is when it is swept under the rug and no one talks about it for fear from the PC police (notice I wrote PC, not BC!!). Most people know it's a problem, so why the hysteria when it is discussed? We talk about an underfunded SSI or obviously the war, etc, so why is this subject always "off limits"? It's been beaten to death in the media, but at least it forces some sort of dialogue. If anything, it's a start!

[BettorsChat]

Let me guess, he's a Republican?

No idea just think he's an idiot for saying what he did. Plus he's boring as shit. Tried listening to him once and about fell asleep.

[BettorsChat]

all this proved was that blacks have more power then whites and it isn't a racists comment but he would of never got fired if al sharpton didn't stick his nose in it

There's more Hispanics in the USA now than blacks so I guess they will be making waves next?

[BettorsChat]

10-4 that.Ole Jesse and Al must not realize that when they only represent black people and ony want black people to succeed that they are as racist as anybody.If Steve Harvey(King of Comedy) makes the same comment on his radio show no one blinks an eye.DBL standard.

Jesse Jackson is a pervert and a hypocrite

[BettorsChat]

First, the Steve Harvey statement I sent you was b/c you had responded to a "what if" with a "where's the proof Steve Harvey said" and the original poster never said Steve Harvey made a similiar comment as Imus. Substitute Dave Chappelle or Chris Rock. Do you think it's ok for them to say what they do?

I am not offended by what Imus said, but I do see where the Rutgers bball team could/would since it was directed towards them directly. Everyone else is hopping on the bandwagon.

Since he has been doing the same things for 30+ years, I find it odd to now have him removed. The only reason he was is b/c sponsors were leaving. Bottom line.

If I was CBS/MSNBC, I would have not made a decision until after the meeting with the bball team. I would have kept the suspension, and let listeners decide whether to continue to listen or to tune out. See if sponsors would still advertise (not likely) and maybe go from there.

I still wonder though, are you still not seeing the "double standard" that does exist, or do you need more examples?
Just b/c Irvin was fired WELL after his racist comment doesn't mean it was the reason. Who knows? No proof.

And how does firing him "make it right?" Do the words somehow come back? Do you think a nice fat check is on it's way to Rutgers anytime soon from CBS/MSNBC?

Lastly, I wouldn't confuse "ratings" with "influence". Our mothers are only one person, but that had "influence" correct? Viewership/listenership and influence aren't the same thing.

Chris Rock is a comedian so that's different.

Let us know about the check going to Rutgers from CBS/MSNBC.

[gbell]

There's more Hispanics in the USA now than blacks so I guess they will be making waves next?

They aren't now? Walked inside a Lowes home improvement store recently? Press 1 for English ring a bell?

[gbell]

Chris Rock is a comedian so that's different.

How, and if so , why?

[BettorsChat]

They aren't now? Walked inside a Lowes home improvement store recently? Press 1 for English ring a bell?

Really? Do you hate Hispanics? What about blacks?

[BettorsChat]

How, and if so , why?

When Cris rock says cracker he's joking around.

Now if a white comedian used the N word it would be deceived as being wrong which IMO isn't right. However, this is the life we lead, because of slavery which wasn't right to begin with.

[gbell]

Really? Do you hate Hispanics? What about blacks?

Where did I say/write I hate blacks or Mexicans? You have issues.

[gbell]

When Cris rock says cracker he's joking around.

Now if a white comedian used the N word it would be deceived as being wrong which IMO isn't right. However, this is the life we lead, because of slavery which wasn't right to begin with.

So you would prefer to accept this double standard then to open dialogues and possibly change? Since you say it's ok for black comedians to say/do one thing, but not ok for white comedians to do the same.
And Imus wasn't "joking" around?
I'm sure next you'll have me supporting slavery too.

[vols fan]

No idea just think he's an idiot for saying what he did. Plus he's boring as shit. Tried listening to him once and about fell asleep.

I think we all agree he is an idiot for what he said and maybe he should have been fired,but I think the argument is cbs and msnbc should fire him for what he said without the influence of jesse and al.I heard a report this morning that one of the parents said an apology is not good enough.That tells me they just want to get paid.When they see jesse show up all they see is dollar signs.

[TheRook]

I think we all agree he is an idiot for what he said and maybe he should have been fired,but I think the argument is cbs and msnbc should fire him for what he said without the influence of jesse and al.I heard a report this morning that one of the parents said an apology is not good enough.That tells me they just want to get paid.When they see jesse show up all they see is dollar signs.

I agree with that 100%

[wayne1218]

A couple things that stand out to me. I was never a fan of or against Imus. I knew who he was and heard him a few times but that was it.

I really can't believe he got fired for what he said. There is no doubt that what he said was wrong because whether you think it did or should have, it obviously hurt/affected some people in the wrong way. I saw an interview on Cold Pizza this morning where the guy said "Hey, there is no doubt the comment was wrong but what you had here was a 66 year old white man trying to be hip-hop and use the street, hood and rap lingo that african americans use daily. It came off horrible but i don't think he said it with premeditated intent on hurting people".

I tend to agree with that 100%. The problem in all the arguments here is to me, people seem to be taking their sides based on whether or not they liked Imus to begin with. I could quote many posts while reading here that show me their dislike for Imus played a big part in how they think this should be treated.

IMO there is NO DOUBT that there is a double standard out there with talk of race. Considering a black man can say what he wants about his race and a white man can't without being a racist is unthinkable to me at times. It doesn't matter to me what your skin color is. A racial slur is a racial slur, no matter who says it.

What happened to "Rehab"? Anybody??

A black man on Grey's Anatomy can make gay slurs, which is another hot topic in this country and he does it twice, not once. Why was he simply sent to counseling while keeping his job when the gay & lesbian alliance was on the war path??

Michael Richards can't even be compared (IMO). What he did/said was just a total anger filled racist rant. There is no explaning that one or making excuses for it. The comedy act ended when that rant started and he went on and on and on.

I also can't believe CBS fired him and didn't do it right away if they were going to. It wasn't because of ethical beliefs on their part because they would have done it right away. It was financial pressure and nothing more.

We could discuss others who have done much more and received much less of a punishment. If you hate Imus, you think this is great. I dont like him and i don't hate him but to me, "Nappy haired hoes" are 3 words that didn't by any means deserve a guy who has been on radio for 30 years to get fired. I have seen him apologize to everyone and yes, i know he "Has to" but he seems pretty sincere to me through this whole thing.

The fact they fired him during a great cause while raising a ton of money for kids was almost just as tasteless imo.