Imus Fired from CBS Radio Too!

[TheRook]

I don't think they rely on the advertising like the others do though John. Just like when they brought Howard on, it's about getting people to buy the radio and the service. A shitload of people bought the radios and service when Stern came here. All that money pays his contract and Sirius has you hooked for $13 a month (Like i pay). They are way more into recruiting subscribers/money more than they are advertisers. You may not get the "Big Name" advertisers but plenty of other business' will take a chance knowing his following i bet.

That's a good point. I wasnt sure how they got they're money.

You might very well be right.

And i"m sure Imus would draw more and more revenue for XM or Sirius...and since they are merging....might be a great thing for XM to take hold of.

[TheRook]

10-4 that.Ole Jesse and Al must not realize that when they only represent black people and ony want black people to succeed that they are as racist as anybody.If Steve Harvey(King of Comedy) makes the same comment on his radio show no one blinks an eye.DBL standard.

I respectfully disagree and here's why....

Steve Harvey didn't make that statement....that's an assumption on your part.

We keep saying there is a double standard...but where is the proof of that?

Imus was nortorious for pushing the envelope just like Stern did, but in different ways have GOT to know that saying what he said EVEN IN JEST would result in some sort of uproar.

Race relations in this country seems like we take one step forward and two steps back.

I am 100% in favor of free speech, but ignorant speech like Imus subjected his audience to pushed the envelope just a bit too far this time.

wayne could very well be right...he'll go to satellite make even more money and maybe right the error of his way.

Do I think he's a bad person? No, hell no. He just is a person of great influence in the US and make a dumb ass statement that could NOT have gone un noticed.

don't blame anyone but Imus. He chose to say what he said, and he's reaping what he sowed.

[DIRK]

in this country you better watch what you say about jews and blacks. If you say the wrong thing your reputation is tarnished. We should be worrying about the big problem in this country which is an incompetent president who can't finish a war or get out. Even though we all know its to set up him and his friends businesses out there.

[DIRK]

That it was Sid Rosenberg who started the whole conversation- he's the one who made the comments about the Williams sisters

Sid Rosenburg a druggie who shouldn't even be on the radio but we all know why he is given chance after chance.

I don't even think Jackson and Sharpton thought he would get fired.

[Lsufan]

This reminds me of when Tiger won his first green jacket. Fuzzy Zoeller was interview and asked what he thought of Tiger's play. Fuzzy congratulated Tiger, and told the media to pat Tiger on the back when he arrives, and to tell him not to serve fried chicken and collard greens for next year's players dinner.

K-mart, one of Fuzzy's main sponsors, dropped him fast. But Fuzzy made it through it. He continued playing golf, as Imus will continue working.

Fuzzy was known as the "class clown" on the PGA Tour. I LMAO when I saw the interview, cause I knew Fuzzy was just joking.

Click Here For The Interview Video

[Kaptain]

Rook

I respectfully disagree and here's why....

Steve Harvey didn't make that statement....that's an assumption on your part.

We keep saying there is a double standard...but where is the proof of that?

Imus was nortorious for pushing the envelope just like Stern did, but in different ways have GOT to know that saying what he said EVEN IN JEST would result in some sort of uproar.

Race relations in this country seems like we take one step forward and two steps back.

I am 100% in favor of free speech, but ignorant speech like Imus subjected his audience to pushed the envelope just a bit too far this time.

wayne could very well be right...he'll go to satellite make even more money and maybe right the error of his way.

Do I think he's a bad person? No, hell no. He just is a person of great influence in the US and make a dumb ass statement that could NOT have gone un noticed.

don't blame anyone but Imus. He chose to say what he said, and he's reaping what he sowed.

Well worded my man----has some rings of truth to it..... kapt

[gbell]

I respectfully disagree and here's why....

Steve Harvey didn't make that statement....that's an assumption on your part.

We keep saying there is a double standard...but where is the proof of that?

Imus was nortorious for pushing the envelope just like Stern did, but in different ways have GOT to know that saying what he said EVEN IN JEST would result in some sort of uproar.

Race relations in this country seems like we take one step forward and two steps back.

I am 100% in favor of free speech, but ignorant speech like Imus subjected his audience to pushed the envelope just a bit too far this time.

wayne could very well be right...he'll go to satellite make even more money and maybe right the error of his way.

Do I think he's a bad person? No, hell no. He just is a person of great influence in the US and make a dumb ass statement that could NOT have gone un noticed.

don't blame anyone but Imus. He chose to say what he said, and he's reaping what he sowed.

I don't think he said Steve Harvey made the comment, but a "what it". And you want proof of a double standard? You can't be that naive. Oh dear Lord!
Jimmy the Greek gets fired for his comments. Dusty Baker?
Rush Limbaugh? Fired. Michael Irvin? (not fired b/c of his racist statements)
Jesse Jackson/Al Sharpton..Hymietown, white interlopers.
Mayor Nagin..chocolate city...

Any of these striking a similiar cord?
And there's no double standard?
And I disagree with your assumption that Imus is a man of great influence. Proof?

[gbell]

Well worded my man----has some rings of truth to it..... kapt

I hope that a person of your age and wisdom is not agreeing that there isn't a double standard? Certainly someone who posted that they were there from the early days of segregation to modern day has seen this double standard?

[TheRook]

I don't think he said Steve Harvey made the comment, but a "what it". And you want proof of a double standard? You can't be that naive. Oh dear Lord!
Jimmy the Greek gets fired for his comments. Dusty Baker?
Rush Limbaugh? Fired. Michael Irvin? (not fired b/c of his racist statements)
Jesse Jackson/Al Sharpton..Hymietown, white interlopers.
Mayor Nagin..chocolate city...

Any of these striking a similiar cord?
And there's no double standard?
And I disagree with your assumption that Imus is a man of great influence. Proof?

Steve harvey made a huh?

Michael Irvin? You don't think that everything added up together made it that much easier to let him go? Come on....lets not play the naive game here.

The only proof I have that Imus has influence would be his ratings day after day month after month, year after year. If he didn't influence his audience, he wouldn't have been on the air for that many years.

Do I think Imus said a bad thing? YES...without question.

Do I think he should have been fired? NO...I don't think so. I think deep down he regrets his choice of words.

Am I surprised he was fired? HELL NO....it's what had to be done to "make it right"

Does "making it right" end the debate? No, of course not.

There are zero winners here in this very slippery slope of race relations. Sharpton and Jackson took full advantage of the situation as they love to do and it cost a man his job.

Right or wrong....CBS had no choice, especially after MSNBC made theirs.

[jordanrules23]

I don't think he said Steve Harvey made the comment, but a "what it". And you want proof of a double standard? You can't be that naive. Oh dear Lord!
Jimmy the Greek gets fired for his comments. Dusty Baker?
Rush Limbaugh? Fired. Michael Irvin? (not fired b/c of his racist statements)
Jesse Jackson/Al Sharpton..Hymietown, white interlopers.
Mayor Nagin..chocolate city...

Any of these striking a similiar cord?
And there's no double standard?
And I disagree with your assumption that Imus is a man of great influence. Proof?

GBell your dealing with libs who dont know their ass from a hole in the ground.....

[wayne1218]

GBell your dealing with libs who dont know their ass from a hole in the ground.....

Take a month off jordan. I've warned you 100 times to talk like an adult here. I could care less which side you are on but i. and many are sick of your constant depressing, negative and useless posts that continue to target single or plural members time and time again.

[TheRook]

I don't think he said Steve Harvey made the comment, but a "what it". And you want proof of a double standard? You can't be that naive. Oh dear Lord!
Jimmy the Greek gets fired for his comments. Dusty Baker?
Rush Limbaugh? Fired. Michael Irvin? (not fired b/c of his racist statements)
Jesse Jackson/Al Sharpton..Hymietown, white interlopers.
Mayor Nagin..chocolate city...

Any of these striking a similiar cord?
And there's no double standard?
And I disagree with your assumption that Imus is a man of great influence. Proof?

Let me ask one more thing...because you do bring up some good points.....


Was what Imus said wrong in your opinion?

If so.....what would you have done if you were CBS or NBC?

If you don't think so....why not?

[gbell]

Let me ask one more thing...because you do bring up some good points.....


Was what Imus said wrong in your opinion?

If so.....what would you have done if you were CBS or NBC?

If you don't think so....why not?

First, the Steve Harvey statement I sent you was b/c you had responded to a "what if" with a "where's the proof Steve Harvey said" and the original poster never said Steve Harvey made a similiar comment as Imus. Substitute Dave Chappelle or Chris Rock. Do you think it's ok for them to say what they do?

I am not offended by what Imus said, but I do see where the Rutgers bball team could/would since it was directed towards them directly. Everyone else is hopping on the bandwagon.

Since he has been doing the same things for 30+ years, I find it odd to now have him removed. The only reason he was is b/c sponsors were leaving. Bottom line.

If I was CBS/MSNBC, I would have not made a decision until after the meeting with the bball team. I would have kept the suspension, and let listeners decide whether to continue to listen or to tune out. See if sponsors would still advertise (not likely) and maybe go from there.

I still wonder though, are you still not seeing the "double standard" that does exist, or do you need more examples?
Just b/c Irvin was fired WELL after his racist comment doesn't mean it was the reason. Who knows? No proof.

And how does firing him "make it right?" Do the words somehow come back? Do you think a nice fat check is on it's way to Rutgers anytime soon from CBS/MSNBC?

Lastly, I wouldn't confuse "ratings" with "influence". Our mothers are only one person, but that had "influence" correct? Viewership/listenership and influence aren't the same thing.

[TheRook]

First, the Steve Harvey statement I sent you was b/c you had responded to a "what if" with a "where's the proof Steve Harvey said" and the original poster never said Steve Harvey made a similiar comment as Imus. Substitute Dave Chappelle or Chris Rock. Do you think it's ok for them to say what they do?

I am not offended by what Imus said, but I do see where the Rutgers bball team could/would since it was directed towards them directly. Everyone else is hopping on the bandwagon.

Since he has been doing the same things for 30+ years, I find it odd to now have him removed. The only reason he was is b/c sponsors were leaving. Bottom line.

If I was CBS/MSNBC, I would have not made a decision until after the meeting with the bball team. I would have kept the suspension, and let listeners decide whether to continue to listen or to tune out. See if sponsors would still advertise (not likely) and maybe go from there.

I still wonder though, are you still not seeing the "double standard" that does exist, or do you need more examples?
Just b/c Irvin was fired WELL after his racist comment doesn't mean it was the reason. Who knows? No proof.

And how does firing him "make it right?" Do the words somehow come back? Do you think a nice fat check is on it's way to Rutgers anytime soon from CBS/MSNBC?

Lastly, I wouldn't confuse "ratings" with "influence". Our mothers are only one person, but that had "influence" correct? Viewership/listenership and influence aren't the same thing.

Thanks Gbell....

at least now I know where your coming from on this.


I understand what you have called a "double standard". Your examples back up your statement.


This whole subject is very uncomfortable for me and I really don't want to get into it much more other then what I had said before.

You make some good points. But I also think that right or wrong, the decision that CBS made was the right one for THEM...and that's the bottom line in the business world...what is best for #1.

Whether or not you think so, Rutgers women's bball team were HUGE HUGE winners in this whole thing. They got some major face time and that's huge for recruiting, especially since they were in the championship game. This has totally deflected all attention away from any other team right now. And I'm sure they can use that to their advantage.

I think we'll agree to disagree on the influence factor with personalities like Imus...Stern....Jackass....WWE....for example...

Just take American Idol and Sanjaya.....he's not making it week to week on his talent. There is some Stern influence helping that boy out big time.

I think this will be my last reply on this cause again....it's a very uncomfortable topic to "take sides on".

Good points though Gbell.....

Hope mine are as respected as well.

[gbell]

You make some good points. But I also think that right or wrong, the decision that CBS made was the right one for THEM...and that's the bottom line in the business world...what is best for #1.

Whether or not you think so, Rutgers women's bball team were HUGE HUGE winners in this whole thing. They got some major face time and that's huge for recruiting, especially since they were in the championship game. This has totally deflected all attention away from any other team right now. And I'm sure they can use that to their advantage.

I think we'll agree to disagree on the influence factor with personalities like Imus...Stern....Jackass....WWE....for example...

Just take American Idol and Sanjaya.....he's not making it week to week on his talent. There is some Stern influence helping that boy out big time.

I think this will be my last reply on this cause again....it's a very uncomfortable topic to "take sides on".

Good points though Gbell.....

Hope mine are as respected as well.

I only attempted to refute your comment about Imus having "influence". Audience and influenece, again, to me, are different. I think all of your references (stern,jackass,wwe) all lead to a coarsening of society. But there speech shouldn't be stifled either. A tightrope that must be walked unfortunately.

I said before your response that this was a mostly biz decision with sponsors pulling.
And I agree 100% that this was being used by Rutgers as a recruiting "feel sorry for us" tool. It feeds beautifully into the David vs Goliath recruitment.