Reasons for Collapse of Red Sox

[BettorsChat]

I am sorry I have to say this but I cant believe that the Administrator and Moderator are being this ignorant.

Lackey stinks fair enough ,I have said he stinks many times.

To help you guys out with the math,run support is not every game its an average of what they score when he pitches no matter if its a win or a loss.

So again the math would be if they score 12 one game and 6 another and 9 another,what would that be kids.Its 9 correct I thought me mixing up the #s might trick you because you have a hard time reading and understanding what your reading.

I already told you his ERA in 11 wins is 3.67 and his ERA is 3.29 in 7 losses.

So if he was getting 9 + runs a game like you keep saying he would have at least 18 wins.

But because its an average he gets ALL DIFFERENT AMOUNTS of runs every game.So he can win a game 16-4 which he did and lose a game 2-0 which he did.Those 18 runs the other day count toward that 9 run average even tho he was not capable of getting a win.

Run support helps of course but just because they score for someone doesnt mean they win the games 9-8 every time he pitches and thats what you keep making it sound like.

I show Lackey with a 4.26 ERA in Wins and an ERA of 8.76 in losses.

I'm going by whether or not the team won and how lackey pitched in each of those games.

[gizmo]

well you can figure out the 11 wins era not counting the first win and than take his 7 best games that he lost and check my math,I am pretty sure I wrote them down correctly.

That would be 18 starts and an ERA right around 3.50 total.His other 9 starts his ERA is over 14.

So in my opinion he gave the team a good chance to win 18 of the 27 games he pitched and they even won some of the ones that he pitched like shit in and thats why I was argueing that its not Lackeys fault .

But than because no one wanted to look at these stats but continued to bring up his TOTAL ERA and Whip and him being fat and making faces and yes he still stinks, I all of a sudden because I dont agree with the bandwagon become a douchbag ,idiot ,fool ,jerk,dumbass, ignorant,fool,.

I hope you take the time to see if I am correct about those stats

[BettorsChat]

well you can figure out the 11 wins era not counting the first win and than take his 7 best games that he lost and check my math,I am pretty sure I wrote them down correctly.

That would be 18 starts and an ERA right around 3.50 total.His other 9 starts his ERA is over 14.

So in my opinion he gave the team a good chance to win 18 of the 27 games he pitched and they even won some of the ones that he pitched like shit in and thats why I was argueing that its not Lackeys fault .

But than because no one wanted to look at these stats but continued to bring up his TOTAL ERA and Whip and him being fat and making faces and yes he still stinks, I all of a sudden because I dont agree with the bandwagon become a douchbag ,idiot ,fool ,jerk,dumbass, ignorant,fool,.

I hope you take the time to see if I am correct about those stats

I haven't called you any names.

Go here for where I got the stats from. There's no way for me to figure out how you got those numbers unless you point out each start that you're getting the numbers from.

John Lackey, Boston Red Sox, MLB - CBSSports.com Baseball

[wayne1218]

well you can figure out the 11 wins era not counting the first win and than take his 7 best games that he lost and check my math,I am pretty sure I wrote them down correctly.

It amazes me how you try to twist numbers to suit your argument.

WHY THA' FUCK DO YOU COUNT 11 WINS AND LEAVE A SHITTY ONE OUT???

Oh, i know, cuz the numbers look better if you do. How ignorant is that!

[wayne1218]

But than because no one wanted to look at these stats but continued to bring up his TOTAL ERA and Whip and him being fat and making faces and yes he still stinks, I all of a sudden because I dont agree with the bandwagon become a douchbag ,idiot ,fool ,jerk,dumbass, ignorant,fool,.

Most of those names came after you went off on me about bin laden you jackass. Instead of thinking twice, you just did it and for that, you were a fucking idiot and everything else i called you after you went off.

[gizmo]

I apologized for that Wayne but I will let you go back through your posts and you can figure out all the times you said something.

You like calling people names I got your address you fucking cunt I will meet you if thats your intention and you can explain to every how you got the shit knocked out of you.

The arguement of the #s I am pulling out is to show you its not Lackeys fault but you cant seem to understand that but instead pull out a few words of a whole paragragh and call people names.

[wayne1218]

I apologized for that Wayne but I will let you go back through your posts and you can figure out all the times you said something.

You like calling people names I got your address you fucking cunt I will meet you if thats your intention and you can explain to every how you got the shit knocked out of you.

The arguement of the #s I am pulling out is to show you its not Lackeys fault but you cant seem to understand that but instead pull out a few words of a whole paragragh and call people names.

I don't need to go through my posts you moron because i know exactly when i called you what i did. Don't play it off as whoa is me because your mouth was the 1st to draw blood you asshole. And i don't give two shits about my address. Keep threatening me you cunt and we will see where you end up.

[gizmo]

I am now trying to have an intelligent conversation with the Administrator to see if the #s are correct so you can stay out of it

[wayne1218]

I am now trying to have an intelligent conversation with the Administrator to see if the #s are correct so you can stay out of it

Fuck off. There is only 1 private forum at the website and you are not allowed in it.

[gizmo]

Wayne if you want to prove how tuff you are meet me at Foxwoods anytime the week of Oct 10-15th I will be there playing cards.

Here are the dates of the games.

April 24
June 5 , 11 , 17
July 9 , 16 , 22 , 27
August 6 , 12 , 23

Thats 11 starts:ERA 3.67

and than I added wrong its 6 other games not 7 those dates are:

April 19, 30
June 29
August 17, 30
Sept 14

Thats 6 starts 3.29

[wayne1218]

I'm not 12 years old so go fuck yourself. Keep talking and making threats gizmo and we will see who gets a knock on their door 1st you prick. You are not the 1st and you won't be the last so keep putting it in black & white you idiot.

[Spark]

I dont need facts nor do i want anything to do with arguing or debating you. I had my fill last time around. Thank you in advance.

[wayne1218]

I have one more suggestion for you to gizmo. If you want your $50 back for the 3 For All pool, you better email me where you want it sent. I do not want anything to do with assholes like you in any pool.

[gizmo]

wayne I will gladly welcome you to come to my house ,it will save me the trip to to foxwoods altho I plan on going. My neighbor works EMS for the fire department so that would also be in your benefit.

[gizmo]

Send it back than, 149 Charles Street Montgomery NY 12549.

Tell me that your going to send it so I dont have to give you players this week