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Below is an example of what happens with these pools. vondie is banned and no longer allowed here or in any pools. I was told 3-4 times by him that i would receive the $50 he owes in a couple of weeks for the MLB Team Ball and Nascar Survivor Pools. It has been 6 months and still nothing. I was very fair and let it go saying ok the 1st few times until the latest email a week ago.
Spark said i should post this so i'm going to because quite honestly, it's bullshit. Tell me what i did wrong here. He chose to play those pools, i didn't force him to do it. He didn't pay because he can't, he didn't pay because he chose not to. He had plenty of days, weeks and months to do so but he never did. He was emailing from his Blackberry so times can't be that tough.
Read from the bottom up. This is copied & pasted right from the email exchanges tonight ....
Re: Pools
Saturday, August 1, 2009 10:09 PM
From: "Wayne" <***********************>
To: jasonvondersmith@
1st off Jason, i run these pools, not monte. Also, just for the record, Monte doesn't pay me anything to be at BC. I help him out as a volunteer and i have a regular job that i have worked at for 17 years now. That response you sent was the icing on the cake for me and we are done dealing with each other. I don't need the headaches. Go ahead and email bc, all you will be doing is wasting your time.
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Re: Pools
Saturday, August 1, 2009 9:56 PM
From: "jasonvondersmith@"
To: "Wayne" ***********************
Ur such a baby. Ill send monte an email and try to reconcile. Maybe he'll hire someone more mature to run these things.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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From: Wayne
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 18:48:16 -0700 (PDT)
To:
Subject: Re: Pools
I'll do us both a favor Jason, save your money. I removed you from both pools. You need not send anything to me, including your future Nascar picks.
--- On Sat, 8/1/09, jasonvondersmith@ wrote:
From: jasonvondersmith@
Subject: Re: Pools
To: "Wayne" <***********************>
Date: Saturday, August 1, 2009, 9:41 PM
Oh. No more shit talking huh? All I need to know is if I send in money for survivor and capping you'll pay me out if I win. If so ill send you the money
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
Re: PoolsSaturday, August 1, 2009 8:28 PM
From: jasonvondersmith@"Add sender to ContactsTo: "Wayne" <***********************>
Haha. Oh u wanna talk shit now? Sorry I'm not 35, and my job is working on a degen website. Get a life dude. I bet ur so quick to pay out too huh? Don't be mad at me cause u need peoples money to live off of. I remember u taking a month to pay out the cappers contest two years ago. U have to give blow jobs to come up with that cash? Tell ur kids I'm sorry they can't eat cause I didn't send in 50 dollars before u had to pay out.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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From: Wayne
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 16:07:12 -0700 (PDT)
To:
Subject: Re: Pools
What's funny is you owning a Blackberry but you can't come up with $50 for pools you chose to play in. It's pretty obvious what's going on to me. I bet you pay your Verizon bill every month huh?
--- On Sat, 8/1/09, jasonvondersmith@ wrote:
From: jasonvondersmith@
Subject: Re: Pools
To: "Wayne" <***********************>
Date: Saturday, August 1, 2009, 7:02 PM
Hahaha.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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From: Wayne
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 16:00:39 -0700 (PDT)
To:
Subject: Re: Pools
Yes, actually i am out of money as of "Now" Jason because you have yet to pay. Nobody is whining either. If you paid up like every other man, woman and child in these league's you wouldn't hear any bitching. It's $50 jason, not hundreds or thousands and so far, you can't seem to come up with it. I'm thinking if you can't pay $50 in 6 months, what makes me think you can do it in 30 days? Be a man and pay your dues. I think i've been more than patient at this point.
--- On Sat, 8/1/09, jasonvondersmith@ wrote:
From: jasonvondersmith@
Subject: Re: Pools
To: "Wayne" <***********************>
Date: Saturday, August 1, 2009, 11:54 AM
Haha. That's fine if I was going to fuck u out of it I would have already. U wouldn't have heard from me anymore. I don't need any links. Just wanted to let u know I was in. I understand u plight, but I told u I'm not gona stiff u. U are not "out" any money as yet. So don't be so whiny
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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From: Wayne
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 08:32:45 -0700 (PDT)
To: Jason Vondersmith<>
Subject: Re: Pools
Jason,
I have no problem with you playing in any football pools but i am not sending any links or anything until i get the money. You have told me 3 or 4 times now that you will be sending the money and the pool is 6 months old and i STILL have not received a dime. This pools ARE supposed to be paid BEFORE they start. I let guys slide a couple weeks in sometimes but not this long and you are the only person who hasn't paid. And now you are telling me another month? I've been fucked like this 20 times before by people doing the same exact thing and it's not happening again. They always string me along just like you have and i'm not playing that game anymore. It's what, $50 and you can't send it in 6 months time? It's unacceptable Jason and if you want to play anything, get me the money like you keep saying you will and you can play.
Wayne
--- On Wed, 7/22/09, Jason Vondersmith wrote:
From: Jason Vondersmith <>
Subject: Pools
To: "Wayne "
Date: Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 3:38 PM
Hey Wayne,
Count me in for 2 survivor pools and the capping contest again. I'll send you the money sep 1 and include the 50 I owe you for nascar survivor and Team ball. Sorry again about the delay, Home ownership is a bitch. 25+25+20+20+50 = $140.
Can you also send me the link for the free survivor?
Thanks,
Jason
Spark said i should post this so i'm going to because quite honestly, it's bullshit. Tell me what i did wrong here. He chose to play those pools, i didn't force him to do it. He didn't pay because he can't, he didn't pay because he chose not to. He had plenty of days, weeks and months to do so but he never did. He was emailing from his Blackberry so times can't be that tough.
Read from the bottom up. This is copied & pasted right from the email exchanges tonight ....
Re: Pools
Saturday, August 1, 2009 10:09 PM
From: "Wayne" <***********************>
To: jasonvondersmith@
1st off Jason, i run these pools, not monte. Also, just for the record, Monte doesn't pay me anything to be at BC. I help him out as a volunteer and i have a regular job that i have worked at for 17 years now. That response you sent was the icing on the cake for me and we are done dealing with each other. I don't need the headaches. Go ahead and email bc, all you will be doing is wasting your time.
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Re: Pools
Saturday, August 1, 2009 9:56 PM
From: "jasonvondersmith@"
To: "Wayne" ***********************
Ur such a baby. Ill send monte an email and try to reconcile. Maybe he'll hire someone more mature to run these things.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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From: Wayne
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 18:48:16 -0700 (PDT)
To:
Subject: Re: Pools
I'll do us both a favor Jason, save your money. I removed you from both pools. You need not send anything to me, including your future Nascar picks.
--- On Sat, 8/1/09, jasonvondersmith@
From: jasonvondersmith@
Subject: Re: Pools
To: "Wayne" <***********************>
Date: Saturday, August 1, 2009, 9:41 PM
Oh. No more shit talking huh? All I need to know is if I send in money for survivor and capping you'll pay me out if I win. If so ill send you the money
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
Re: PoolsSaturday, August 1, 2009 8:28 PM
From: jasonvondersmith@"
Haha. Oh u wanna talk shit now? Sorry I'm not 35, and my job is working on a degen website. Get a life dude. I bet ur so quick to pay out too huh? Don't be mad at me cause u need peoples money to live off of. I remember u taking a month to pay out the cappers contest two years ago. U have to give blow jobs to come up with that cash? Tell ur kids I'm sorry they can't eat cause I didn't send in 50 dollars before u had to pay out.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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From: Wayne
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 16:07:12 -0700 (PDT)
To:
Subject: Re: Pools
What's funny is you owning a Blackberry but you can't come up with $50 for pools you chose to play in. It's pretty obvious what's going on to me. I bet you pay your Verizon bill every month huh?
--- On Sat, 8/1/09, jasonvondersmith@
From: jasonvondersmith@
Subject: Re: Pools
To: "Wayne" <***********************>
Date: Saturday, August 1, 2009, 7:02 PM
Hahaha.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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From: Wayne
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 16:00:39 -0700 (PDT)
To:
Subject: Re: Pools
Yes, actually i am out of money as of "Now" Jason because you have yet to pay. Nobody is whining either. If you paid up like every other man, woman and child in these league's you wouldn't hear any bitching. It's $50 jason, not hundreds or thousands and so far, you can't seem to come up with it. I'm thinking if you can't pay $50 in 6 months, what makes me think you can do it in 30 days? Be a man and pay your dues. I think i've been more than patient at this point.
--- On Sat, 8/1/09, jasonvondersmith@
From: jasonvondersmith@
Subject: Re: Pools
To: "Wayne" <***********************>
Date: Saturday, August 1, 2009, 11:54 AM
Haha. That's fine if I was going to fuck u out of it I would have already. U wouldn't have heard from me anymore. I don't need any links. Just wanted to let u know I was in. I understand u plight, but I told u I'm not gona stiff u. U are not "out" any money as yet. So don't be so whiny
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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From: Wayne
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 08:32:45 -0700 (PDT)
To: Jason Vondersmith<>
Subject: Re: Pools
Jason,
I have no problem with you playing in any football pools but i am not sending any links or anything until i get the money. You have told me 3 or 4 times now that you will be sending the money and the pool is 6 months old and i STILL have not received a dime. This pools ARE supposed to be paid BEFORE they start. I let guys slide a couple weeks in sometimes but not this long and you are the only person who hasn't paid. And now you are telling me another month? I've been fucked like this 20 times before by people doing the same exact thing and it's not happening again. They always string me along just like you have and i'm not playing that game anymore. It's what, $50 and you can't send it in 6 months time? It's unacceptable Jason and if you want to play anything, get me the money like you keep saying you will and you can play.
Wayne
--- On Wed, 7/22/09, Jason Vondersmith
From: Jason Vondersmith <>
Subject: Pools
To: "Wayne "
Date: Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 3:38 PM
Hey Wayne,
Count me in for 2 survivor pools and the capping contest again. I'll send you the money sep 1 and include the 50 I owe you for nascar survivor and Team ball. Sorry again about the delay, Home ownership is a bitch. 25+25+20+20+50 = $140.
Can you also send me the link for the free survivor?
Thanks,
Jason
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