Rumor has it UK has found their new coach

[wayne1218]

You're all talking about how great this is for UK, and no one realizes that he is fucking Memphis over BIG TIME!

It's the sad and unfortunate part of the business. It is what it is and every coach that leaves, screws a school he left. The talk is Mark Few going from Gonzaga to Arizona. I'm sure Zag fans will feel screwed too. He brought Memphis up again and he has the chance to be the highest paid coach in the Country, at UK. You can hate all day but most wouldn't blame him here.

[mavskidd02]

It's the sad and unfortunate part of the business. It is what it is and every coach that leaves, screws a school he left. The talk is Mark Few going from Gonzaga to Arizona. I'm sure Zag fans will feel screwed too. He brought Memphis up again and he has the chance to be the highest paid coach in the Country, at UK. You can hate all day but most wouldn't blame him here.

He wants the job, fine go take it. Don't steal Memphis' recruits. Work at UK for a year, and then get your own recruits, don't take Memphis commits and potential signees over to UK with you. That is what makes me think he is a douchebag and an asshole.

[savage1]

I agree with you on Calipari being a douchebag.

However, the money thing is not completely accurate. The money these sports programs make, is actually helping to fund the academics. They may pay $5 million for Calipari and another millions here there and everywhere, but they make a lot more than they spend, especially a high-standing program like UK. It's something you can look at as stupid but in the end these programs make the school money, not cost them money. Know what I mean Savage?

Ok-then I will amend what I said by saying that the monies derived by paying Calipari his exorbitant salary should be used entirely for promoting higher learning, research, etc. which is supposed to be the chief reason for the existence of colleges and universities in the first place.
Aside from that and strictly from a philosophical point of view, I don't think relatively speaking, that any college coach in any sport is worth 5 million a year in terms of the importance of what he does.

[wayne1218]

He wants the job, fine go take it. Don't steal Memphis' recruits. Work at UK for a year, and then get your own recruits, don't take Memphis commits and potential signees over to UK with you. That is what makes me think he is a douchebag and an asshole.

mavs, Those kids are not going to Memphis because Memphis is where they want to play. If they were, they wouldn't care who the coach was. They chose Memphis because they wanted to play for Calipari, plain & simple. If he wasn't there, they wouldn't be Memphis recruits any way. If anything, blame the recruits, not Calipari. It's their choice.

[ctt8410]

Good Ole' Billy was in over his shoes. Calipari will have Kentucky in the final 4 in 2 years. Bank it.

I'll take that bet.

[Three Jack]

He wants the job, fine go take it. Don't steal Memphis' recruits. Work at UK for a year, and then get your own recruits, don't take Memphis commits and potential signees over to UK with you. That is what makes me think he is a douchebag and an asshole.

If you think for one second that those recruits would still go to Memphis without Calipari you are very wrong, imo.

[mavskidd02]

mavs, Those kids are not going to Memphis because Memphis is where they want to play. If they were, they wouldn't care who the coach was. They chose Memphis because they wanted to play for Calipari, plain & simple. If he wasn't there, they wouldn't be Memphis recruits any way. If anything, blame the recruits, not Calipari. It's their choice.

Yeah, I'm sure Calipari isn't nudging these guys over to UK with him. Bull shit, they're committed to Memphis and now Calipari is leaving Memphis behind and taking these kids with him. Memphis is the team with four straight sweet sixteens and all these 30 win seasons, these kids want to play for a winning program, not neccessarily a winning coach.

He is stealing Memphis recruits is the way I look at it. Do you know how much money it takes to recruit kids? Research, plane fares, this, that and everything. Did Calipari pay for that shit himself? No, Memphis did. So this is the way I look at it:

He used Memphis' money to recruit kids, signed with Memphis and is now planning on taking these kids and walking over to UK, what did Memphis get out of it. Cuz, they sure did spend a shitload of money to sign these kids. How's that fair?

[Three Jack]

Something seems out of line in these troubled economic times when a school will pay a basketball coach(which is about a four month job) $5 million year to stand on the sidelines and make decisions related to winning a basketball game as well as trying to get others to come to the school who will also help the team win more basketball games.
With priorities like this, it is no wonder that out society is in a sad state of decline.

You forgot about the part about the tens of millions he will bring into the University that will not only fund academics at the University but allow it to grow, cultivate and offer future students a better education.....

And, while I have your undivided attention Savvy...since you ripped Sarah Palin up and down for having a daughter that had a teen pregnancy, blaming her for everything, what's your take on the whoring, pot smoking, coke snorting daughter of the 'Drug Czar' VP???

[savage1]

Yeah, I'm sure Calipari isn't nudging these guys over to UK with him. Bull shit, they're committed to Memphis and now Calipari is leaving Memphis behind and taking these kids with him. Memphis is the team with four straight sweet sixteens and all these 30 win seasons, these kids want to play for a winning program, not neccessarily a winning coach.

He is stealing Memphis recruits is the way I look at it. Do you know how much money it takes to recruit kids? Research, plane fares, this, that and everything. Did Calipari pay for that shit himself? No, Memphis did. So this is the way I look at it:

He used Memphis' money to recruit kids, signed with Memphis and is now planning on taking these kids and walking over to UK, what did Memphis get out of it. Cuz, they sure did spend a shitload of money to sign these kids. How's that fair?

Your post shows three things:
1)That Calipari like many others is a pure mercenary.
2) Memphis wasn't perceptive enough to realize that since he basically did the same thing at Umass, that he would probably do it again to them(Memphis) if/when the chance/opportunity ocurred.
3) That it is obvious that the kids going with Calipari consider the athletic program and specifically playing and winning basketball games much more important in consideration than what the schools offer themselves in the way of academics.

[Three Jack]

Listen, I love my job...if my owner asked me today if I had plans on leaving, I would tell him point blank 'no'. And if another company called me up tomorrow and offered me a job at a world renowned facility that was recognozed as one of the top jobs in my industry, paying me double what I am right now...I would ask them 'where do I sign up'. If that makes me a mercernary, then so be it.

[Three Jack]

Your post shows three things:

3) That it is obvious that the kids going with Calipari consider the athletic program and specifically playing and winning basketball games much more important in consideration than what the schools offer themselves in the way of academics.

Savage, are you serious? Do you actually think that plays a significant part in most high ranked HS athletes? It may play a part in most HS players thinking, but you are talking about players in the TOP 5 in HS!!! They are going to go to the coach who will develop their game so they have a chance to be a first round NBA draft pick, get a guaranteed contract that will set them and their families up for life. Nothing more, nothing less. Of course they are going to follow Calipari....

[wayne1218]

Yeah, I'm sure Calipari isn't nudging these guys over to UK with him. Bull shit, they're committed to Memphis and now Calipari is leaving Memphis behind and taking these kids with him. Memphis is the team with four straight sweet sixteens and all these 30 win seasons, these kids want to play for a winning program, not neccessarily a winning coach.

Why would he have to? He already got their attention when THEY SAID they wanted to play for HIM. Do you think going to UK is really going to bother those recruits? Hell no, they probably love it. Again, be mad at them.

He is stealing Memphis recruits is the way I look at it. Do you know how much money it takes to recruit kids? Research, plane fares, this, that and everything. Did Calipari pay for that shit himself? No, Memphis did. So this is the way I look at it:

He used Memphis' money to recruit kids, signed with Memphis and is now planning on taking these kids and walking over to UK, what did Memphis get out of it. Cuz, they sure did spend a shitload of money to sign these kids. How's that fair?

How much money do you think he made Memphis in his time there? I'll tell you, a shitload! All money they were not making before he got there. I'm sure those millions were not spent flying a few kids in to Memphis.

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[savage1]

You forgot about the part about the tens of millions he will bring into the University that will not only fund academics at the University but allow it to grow, cultivate and offer future students a better education.....

And, while I have your undivided attention Savvy...since you ripped Sarah Palin up and down for having a daughter that had a teen pregnancy, blaming her for everything, what's your take on the whoring, pot smoking, coke snorting daughter of the 'Drug Czar' VP???

I amended my statement if you read my next post.
Re: Biden's daughter, she obviously has problems in the same way as does Palin's daughter.
The big difference as I see it going back to the campaign is that Biden is/has been an experienced politician in Washington for many years, and that was a feather in his cap.
Sarah Palin was/is a big question mark as far as going from the minor league to one step away from the Presidency.
The fact that her own young daughter became pregnant while unwed while she(Sarah) preached abstinence(meaning that she neither brought up her daughter very well nor garnered her respect) simply raised more doubts as to her capabilties as the VP and (heaven forbid) the Presidency.

[wayne1218]

Savage, are you serious? Do you actually think that plays a significant part in most high ranked HS athletes? It may play a part in most HS players thinking, but you are talking about players in the TOP 5 in HS!!! They are going to go to the coach who will develop their game so they have a chance to be a first round NBA draft pick, get a guaranteed contract that will set them and their families up for life. Nothing more, nothing less. Of course they are going to follow Calipari....

I can't believe savage doesn't know this already!

[mavskidd02]

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Let me get this right Wayne. Tell me where I'm misinterpreting........

Because Calipari brought Memphis back to a high ranked program, he can (essentially) do whatever he pleases. And because he made them money, he has the right to take the kids Memphis spent money on and walk over to UK with them??


Memphis paid Calipari to do his job, he did it, but how the f**k does that entitle him to take recruits that are Memphis'?? Calipari made Memphis money, and by your logic he can do what he wants with that money, including SPENDING IT ON ANOTHER SCHOOL!!!! Come on now, you can't think its fair that Memphis spends money to get kids, and UK ends up with them basically without spending a dime.