BC. It is sad to say

[savage1]

ps I have the highest regard for all of you like Wayne, Wiz and everyone else who disagree with me;perhaps I am oversimplifying it or using too much logic;that is simply my opinion, and again I don't scoff at folks who disagree.
I was not a fly on the wall when the meeting/phonecall between the two took place.

[wayne1218]

savage they were in bed together to do this. Why can't you see that? It doesn't matter how much their service cost, the point is simply that they were trying to get more. I also don't see all the zebras and cripplers listed before they start anywhere here so to suggest something that has not happened doesn't make alot of sense to me.

We will have to agree to disagree but picks are not everything when a reputation is involved cause 100 people here give them EVERYDAY!

[savage1]

Wayne-no matter what, I think each wanted to win;they weren't trying to lose to one another;thus "being in bed together" loses some of its meaning.
Again, its all perspective, and I am not sure that that is a debateable issue.

[savage1]

Wayne and/or Wiz,
To put the shoe on the other foot, what do you think went on in the phone call between Ty and ECost?
My opinion as to what YOU guys thing(NOT me) is that there was no challenge money involved, that each would try to win the contest, and that if either person got any new customers in the first week or two after the contest, that the two services would split the amount of money received.
Am I way off in my thinking or do you view it in the manner I described?
If you disagree, then please state your opinion of what the two services talked about and agreed upon unknow to the rest of us.

[wayne1218]

I think they talked about the whole scheme with the money as an eye candy attention grabber. I truly believe the whole thing was a scam and talked about that way from the start of their phone conversation. I don't think at any time did they have another plan but the BS scheme they used.

[savage1]

Wayne-can I infer from that you think they agreed to would splitt any proceeds from new customers derived because or that they didn't bother with that,ie,each was just thinking of themselves and that was no oral agreement to split any money if either did really well in the contest?

[wayne1218]

They were just thinking of themself. They figured anything gained would just be a bonus considering all the free advertising they received here during the contest. I also believe it totally backfired caused neither of them thought they would do as bad as they did.

[wizardofoddz]

Split the money?????
No way...
These are 2 greedy people, they were both in it for themselves and the free publicity.
Had everything to gain, nothing to lose
Wayne pretty much hits the nail on the head

[mvpwins]

BC

BC,

Good idea BC about having a link back to here. MVP WINS already has a link to this forum on our HOME PAGE, and we have had it there for about 3 - 4 weeks now and it will remain there as long as we post in this forum. No one asked us to put it there, but it was the least we could do because we value this forum and what it means to everyone.

Check out our Bettors Chat BANNER/LINK 3/4 the way down our main page

Thanks,

Rob

MVP WINS

[savage1]

So then you believe that each thought that they would get a lot more business if they did well?
If you say yes, then because of the reasons I cited earlier I would disagree.
I would say this in the same way I would say that sometimes NBA players(Lakers) try to rig the pointspread(I think you disagree with me):
Anyways, most of us who gamble want to make money, BUT most gamblers also like the thrill of winning.
Thus, I will grant that it is possible that several sports services could conspire(I didn't say here-am only talking about a possibility) would hold a mock challenge only because they knew they were trying to deceive others and thus somehow derive some kind of thrill out of doing it(i.e.pulling the wool over the eyes) even if they did NOT get any new customers out of it(I think some NBA players do the same-try to control pointspread and/or over under-not for the money but because they know people are winning or losing their bets based in what they(the players) do in the last few minutes of the game.
Above obviously is just a theory, and again is not my thinking in what happened in this particular contest.

[Buzz]

Wow, three pages of post and the issue I brought up still has not been addressed much.

Buzz

[hazsupport]

Buzz

It's just too sad to talk about!!!!!! hc

[BigMike]

Don't expect it to be Buzz. This has gone on for weeks now. That stupid contest did nothing but cause trouble!!

[Buzz]

I think your right Big Mike. I will just go back to minding my own business

Buzz

[BettorsChat]

Originally posted by Buzz
Wow, three pages of post and the issue I brought up still has not been addressed much.

Buzz

Buzz,

Shoot me an e-mail at [email protected] with what it is that you want to discuss.