Talk to me Rook. I've got time. What did you learn about me besides the fact that i'm bothered by services, thought you were the exception, and frowned on your money means more than a god forbid member seeing a pick or two attitude?
Rope? You got plenty of it here and you know it. I'm bummed out that i thought you were a friend here 1st and a service 2nd. That is the kind of stuff you used to say when you wanted free reign isn't it, that the friendships meant more than anything. Maybe that's true with a few but clearly not true with the site as a whole brother!
I learned a lot Wayne. Some good...some not too optimistic...but nonetheless a very good lesson learned.
Instead of the public banter we were throwing at each other yesterday, you have my email. You can get my number from Spark if you want. I'd LOVE to talk to you man to man about this whole situation, because there were a TON of accusations and assumptions that were made that just weren't true.
As far as the friendships here...I'm not here to make friends with every single member here. That's impossible and I wouldn't even think of it. But I certainly knew who my friends were yesterday right away.
I consider you a friend Wayne, no matter your opinion of me and that was made quite clear last night. Maybe your opinion will change in time. maybe it won't. I'm not going to lose any sleep over this if you continue to not respect me, but I will be a bit disappointed.
I look forward to talking to you off the board at some point, and my offer still stands that I made last night if you choose to change your mind.
I learned a lot Wayne. Some good...some not too optimistic...but nonetheless a very good lesson learned.
Instead of the public banter we were throwing at each other yesterday, you have my email. You can get my number from Spark if you want. I'd LOVE to talk to you man to man about this whole situation, because there were a TON of accusations and assumptions that were made that just weren't true.
As far as the friendships here...I'm not here to make friends with every single member here. That's impossible and I wouldn't even think of it. But I certainly knew who my friends were yesterday right away.
I consider you a friend Wayne, no matter your opinion of me and that was made quite clear last night. Maybe your opinion will change in time. maybe it won't. I'm not going to lose any sleep over this if you continue to not respect me, but I will be a bit disappointed.
I look forward to talking to you off the board at some point, and my offer still stands that I made last night if you choose to change your mind.
I hope you knock em dead tonight.
John
Please John, point them out. Why tease the forum like you have a secret and i made stuff up? I'll be waiting curiously to see what i lied about.
Please John, point them out. Why tease the forum like you have a secret and i made stuff up? I'll be waiting curiously to see what i lied about.
Not teasing anyone Wayne, all I'm saying is that there were a lot of assumptions made on your part.
Post 128: That the money shouldn't be a factor because I'm a service: Well, again....you know nothing about my financial situation.
Post 133: That I can't be bothered with this "shit" : Well I did run the superbowl pool didn't I with blackbeard? I believe that was some shit I was more then happy to help out with.
Post 149: That you all know my reasons, and they are lame to say the least---- actually you don't. And after the assumptions were flying why bother trying?
Post 166: Befriending everyone and then asking $500 in return: By far the most hurtful comment and assumption. the assumption that the ONLY reason that I wish people good luck and shoot the shit with people is so that they will turn around and buy my picks is so far off base its not even funny. Not one post of mine outside of the service section has ever invited anyone to look at my picks or buy my package. NOT ONE.
I realize that I was granted a lot of rope here and I think i"ve done a damn good job of seeing where the line is drawn. If I ever had a question about things, I would email Joe and ask him. You can believe it or not, but the last thing on my mind when I wish Tmac, Homer, JC, TP, you, Joe, BC, Meg, etc...etc...etc...good luck or good morning or whatever is "gosh I hope they come see my promo". That's just not who I am.
I think the offer I made to enter a couple other contests and STILL put up the money for the capping contest to add to the prize pool was a good one, and will still remain open for you if you choose to change your mind.
Otherwise, like i said...my email and my phone is open any time you would like to talk.
Given your responses, I will just post in the service section unless I hear otherwise.
This has become a witch hunt.
I do not befriend EVERYONE, and ask for $500 in return. They CHOOSE to read my post in the service section, not the other way around. There is a BIG difference.
My offer still stands. I'd be happy to put up for one or two contests. In no way shape or form have I not repeatly told you, or monte, or spark how much I appreciate the rope you've given me.
I cannot believe this has been taken this far.
For the record he has befriended me and i have never hired him for his picks. IMO i think this has gone way to far, I say if he doesnt want to play so be it. I dont like scamdicappers and i see no indication that he is one. I wish now that i never started a thread thanking Wayne and Rook for doing fantasy football, while i am grateful for them doing it cause i know its a lot of work, seems to me thats where this all started. Again, this is jusy my opinion.
Not teasing anyone Wayne, all I'm saying is that there were a lot of assumptions made on your part.
Post 128: That the money shouldn't be a factor because I'm a service: Well, again....you know nothing about my financial situation. I assumed you did more than drop free ads on free sites. I Thought as with any business that you put some back into the business in the promotional end and/or advertising end. My response was also based on you saying you were IN through email recently AFTER i said i would help promote your service in them. Boy am i a fucken SUCKER huh?
Post 133: That I can't be bothered with this "shit" : Well I did run the superbowl pool didn't I with blackbeard? I believe that was some shit I was more then happy to help out with. Ahhhhh yes, the Contest that Monte was NOT happy about when he knew you were gathering emails from all of it. Didn't you open a forum shortly there after and send out an email to people about it (Excluding me & monte of course)??
Post 149: That you all know my reasons, and they are lame to say the least---- actually you don't. And after the assumptions were flying why bother trying? Because only one other service was given your rope a few years ago and got it. He is now banned and proved after time, his motives were not what they seemed. I thought ... John is different, he will help us push this by playing and maybe spreading the word! Your Response ... No thanks, people will see my picks! ... What a fucken copout! Ever heard of the Hilton Contest?
Post 166: Befriending everyone and then asking $500 in return: By far the most hurtful comment and assumption. the assumption that the ONLY reason that I wish people good luck and shoot the shit with people is so that they will turn around and buy my picks is so far off base its not even funny. Not one post of mine outside of the service section has ever invited anyone to look at my picks or buy my package. NOT ONE. My point was simple. The last thread of yours i saw was selling $500 packages and it was odd to me that (assuming you have customers) you would turn down a year long capping contest for a measly $50. Why wouldn't you want to promote yourself and shows your skills to also take prize money. Yes, i said lame because if you sell what alot would consider fairly high roller packages at $500 that you wouldn't play the family card over $50 friggin' $$$
I realize that I was granted a lot of rope here and I think i"ve done a damn good job of seeing where the line is drawn. If I ever had a question about things, I would email Joe and ask him. You can believe it or not, but the last thing on my mind when I wish Tmac, Homer, JC, TP, you, Joe, BC, Meg, etc...etc...etc...good luck or good morning or whatever is "gosh I hope they come see my promo". That's just not who I am. You agreed after being allowed in the other forums to remove all promos from your signature and such. You were TOLD to do that and at the time said that was fine cause this place was more like a family and a place to shoot the shit about sports. Am i lying again John? That told me that your service didn't come first here when you agreed you remove promos!
I think the offer I made to enter a couple other contests and STILL put up the money for the capping contest to add to the prize pool was a good one, and will still remain open for you if you choose to change your mind. If you can afford to just TOSS MONEY in the capping contest, why the fuk did you play the whoa is me family card to begin with? It is about the fear of someone getting a play for free john and nothing more!
Otherwise, like i said...my email and my phone is open any time you would like to talk.
Keep talking John! I'm showered and feeling Fresh!
For the record he has befriended me and i have never hired him for his picks. IMO i think this has gone way to far, I say if he doesnt want to play so be it. I dont like scamdicappers and i see no indication that he is one. I wish now that i never started a thread thanking Wayne and Rook for doing fantasy football, while i am grateful for them doing it cause i know its a lot of work, seems to me thats where this all started. Again, this is jusy my opinion.
It's not your fault jc. He always says i'm on the list but the one with fantasy league's and forum notices never seem to reach me. To me, that is being sneaky. If you have nothing to hide, why do you hide it from certain people? That's all i'm saying!
For the record he has befriended me and i have never hired him for his picks. IMO i think this has gone way to far, I say if he doesnt want to play so be it. I dont like scamdicappers and i see no indication that he is one. I wish now that i never started a thread thanking Wayne and Rook for doing fantasy football, while i am grateful for them doing it cause i know its a lot of work, seems to me thats where this all started. Again, this is jusy my opinion.
that must have taken u an hour 2 write and spell a whole paragraph.............
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