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    Have you ever wanted to do something but were afraid to do it because of what other people might think of you if they saw you doing....whatever it was? I can remember hiding all my gambling stats, handicapping info, ect....when friends or relatives would come over to visit. One day my girlfriend asked my why I freaked out like that when people would "stop by" to visit. I'd make them wait outside until I had everything put away. My girlfried thought I was weird for doing that. "It's not like it's against the law or anything" is what she told me. She thought I was over-reacting to the situation.


    I remember telling her that just because something is not against the law does not make it morally right. Ahhhhhh, the moral issue thing was being brought up. She then asked me "Well, what about us living together then? Are you gonna hide me away when friends and family come over like you do your gambling stuff?" Why don't you just stick me in the drawer when you hide you gambling stuff?" She had a point. And it made me begin to think about somethings.


    Why was I wanting to hide my gambling stuff when people came over? I was beginning to then see that I had two groups of friends/aquantances. First were my gambling buddies who never came by the house, but I would always meet up with them at the OTB or bar/club. The next group of people were those who I'd known all my life, including "family" who knew nothing about my gambling, and would just stop by without calling first. I hated that.


    I understand today why gambling is called "the hidden disorder." It has no smell, or crazy looking eyes like alcohol or drugs can have on a person. It makes it hard for others to see what is going on. Most gamblers deny that they have a gambling problem so the the disorder is called "the hidden addiction."

    The DSM IV 312.31 section classifies it as as an "impulse disorder."

    At the time though....I did not know this. All I knew was that I was a popular radio personality well liked in my town and by people who did not really know me. I was cool with that. People would come up to you who you never met before and would strike up a conversation like they had been your friend all their life. It was clear to me that they had identified with this "radio personality" that I had created, but it was obvious to me that the "radio personility" was not who I really was. It was a character, kinda like what an actor does.


    I'm sure that there was a part of me who played a part of what made up my "radio personality", but I knew deep down inside that it was not who I truly was. I would act differently when "on the air" and "off the air" except when approched by people in public who I never met. The character would kick in and the role playing would begin.


    It was like my brain would analyze this person I was speaking to and then determine how to act. For those of you who think this is some kinda psycho skits thing, ask yourself if you act certain ways around certain people in your life. It's normal in a sense to do so, but at what point do we truly know what it is costing us?


    I think about my high school days when we classified people into certain areas. The Jocks, The Pot Heads, and the Drama Geeks. The Drama Geeks would always be who were they were regardless of what other people thought of them. They wore their heart on their sleeve. They were real and genuine. However, I on the other hand could not hang around them because it wasn't cool to be seen with them, even though some of the best times I can remember were with those type of people. This happened because I got hooked up with a girl once who would have them over at her house from time to time. The Drama Geeks would sing songs, and not really care about what others thought of them.


    In my own teenage angst there was a part of me who resented the fact they could act that way. But I knew that I was the cool one, they knew that I was the cool one, so it was cool is as cool does. I can remember the kid with the guitar who with his John Denver hair and glasses glaring at me with this "you don't deserve her" look. If that what it was, I totally agree with him. He ended up at MIT, go figure...huh. But I was still the cool one....who went on to be this popular radio personality.


    So my experience from life in this area taught me this lesson. Cool is what loneliness looks like from the outside in. That makes tremendous sense to me, because I know what being cool feels like. It's a consolation prize for not sharing yourself with others.


    I wonder how many of us here at Betters Chat would share some things about who we really are outside the world of gambling. Is gambling the only thing we all have in common? What if everybody knew everybody here at BC and someone quit gambling? Would you still look that person up and see what is going on in their life? Or would you just phase them out and not care.


    Are you lonely and isolated with yourself where you just feel miserable because you don't know why? We are a direct result of how we think other people think we are. But who are you....really? Scary stuff, eh kids? However, I promise you this....when you get past all the bullshit and can deal with some certain issues that you've buried so deep in your life you will have this peace like you have never had.


    I know longer work as a "radio personality" or as a "gambling addiction counselor" or as an alcohol/drug counselor. However, I still deal with certain clients who want to modify their betting habits so they can control their impulse disorder when it come to the gambling thing. I charge them nothing for this service. I know eventually I'll have to do something with my life to make a living again, but right now this peace of mind I have and the ability to think so clearly is not worth selling myself out for someone I'm not. Finally, the lie is done.
    What impulsive disorder?

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    Last edited by ImpulseDisorder; 04-09-2005, 06:40 PM.
    What impulsive disorder?

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    • #3
      Last edited by ImpulseDisorder; 04-09-2005, 07:07 PM.
      What impulsive disorder?

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      • #4
        well congrats i guess on quitting gambling

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        • #5
          Hope that made you feel better
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          • #6
            fuck that


            gambling is fun.
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            • #7
              I admire your honesty. gambling is a terrible thing when you can't control it. I however do not gamble, I invest in sports, it's definitely a 'alternative' type of investment but I don't bet on rich franklin at -200 because I want the thrill of having money on it, and I don't like risking 2 to win 1, but when it wins I have more money than I did before. I risk what I can afford to 'lose' and manage my bankroll closely, and while it might take time, a few years maybe since I'm starting small one day my investments will ripen and throw off thousands a year in disposable income. good luck to you and I found your post poignant and touching, see you around.
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              • #8
                I bet on sports for one reason. I've always had a passion for sports. I've also had a statistical mind. I enjoy putting the two together. Handicapping sports for me is entertainment. I truly enjoy it. I don't bet to get rich. I never watch on the games I bet.

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                • #9
                  I found the responses some of you left interesting.

                  RJeremy...what gave you the impression I was quitting gambling?

                  Chicagodog...yea, it always makes me feel better when I get to the truth. Or just vent something out to people who I have no idea who they are so whatever they say back to me will not hurt me because....they don't know me, and I don't know them. It ain't personal, ya know? Besides, I never know who might take something from what I've said and decided to ponder how it applies to their life.

                  STaylor36....I guess thats where you and I differ, and that does not mean one is right and the other is wrong. To me gambling is not fun...I can go do something else for fun. Gambling is now a form of investing to me.

                  Frankb03....I suppose it starts out as entertainment for us all and then one day some of us decide to turn the corner and get very serious about what we are doing. It is at that point in time that we have to learn to detatch from our emotions and seperate ourselves mentally. As Action type gamblers, we think we can figure out the right side of a contest and then put our money where our thoughts are (or mouth is). However, once we place that bet....we have no control over what the outcome will be. It is out of our hands. Honestly, I wish I could go back to
                  those "entertainment" feeling days with gambling being just recreational. They say the first time a man bets he bets to win, the rest of the time he bets to break even.



                  I think there is tremendous truth in that statement. I'm 45 years old. I've been gambling since I was 15. However, I only started to take it seriously about 6 years ago. Will I ever recoup my losses from when since when I started? I doubt it. I couldn't even tell you how much I lost over that period of time as a recrational gambler. But today I don't look at as "chasing my losses." I look at it as serious investing.

                  I dont like to compare stock and bond type investing to sports investing. To me they are different in several ways, however, the one common denominator they both have is "calculated risk" ....A stock investor can spend all the time in the world on research and finding the right time to "buy" and then watch his stock in action. To say that he took a calculated risk compared to the way a sports investor bets a game is understandable. To say that the sports investor will fly off the handle emotionally when his action is in progress is different than a stock/bond investor and his "calculated risks" I think is crazy. Let that stock/bond investor who took "calculated risks" see his stock/bond go down and see if he doesn't get emotional about it.

                  We all are human and have emotions. It's part of what being human is all about. You see, it's not what we go through...but rather....how we go through it. How well did you handle your last losing streak? Did you find yourself making that extra bet to try and get back some of the money that was lost? Did an impulse disorder kick in? Did you lose sleep? How did you feel when you had a really shitty day with the games you bet? How about on those days when the ball just never seemed to bounce your way and you feel as the odd's god's are against you? How are the results of your gambling affecting you lifestyle?

                  So now with this awareness being brought to your attention, what are you going to do about it? I ask this not only to the small 3-4 percent of pathological gamblers in the USA who are destroying their life, but also to those who are in the 96-97 percent of gamblers who don't have a problem with gambling, but maybe have a problem with contoling their emotions.

                  So the question becomes, even as a recreational gambler....how can I modify my betting habits to gain even a better edge over what I'm doing currently with my gambling? How can I increase my bankroll an extra 3-5 percent over the season on the sport I'm betting on? I think thats why some of us are here at Betters Chat. We are action type gamblers. We enjoy thinking about how the outcome of a game will be played out then place our money on it. We are the smart ones. Forget those silly slot machines, we'll take sports betting any day over the slots. We are interested in what other people's point of view about a game is, and then we rationalize all the information to form our own opinion. There is nothing wrong with that. The internet is great in the aspect that we all can share information and opinions with each other. It's bad in the fact that sometimes there is too much information but we as a person now have the ability to descern what information is best. We as action gamblers/investors like to do this sorta stuff.

                  Look, my story is this....The counseling firm I was working for told me I would be dealing with problem gamblers as well as the drug abusers/alcoholics. Not to mention those referred by the court for a drug/alcohol/gambling violation. I was just about to get certified by the National Counsel on Problem Gambling when the counseling firm I was working at told me I had to "quit gambling" and "separate myself from the gambling people" in my life. It was about integrity they said.

                  I told them that they got it all wrong. It's not really about integrity, it's really about an impulse disorder. If I don't have an impulse disorder as outlined under the DSM IV section 312.31....then you don't have to worry about the integrity thing. It does not apply. They were concerned about me at one point being a high profile radio personality and now working as a counselor who might be seen at the OTB or with other gamblers around town out in the public. They told me I would be terminated if I was caught do so.

                  Oh, and they also said I was to not visit any "gambling sites" on my computer at work. This went for the NCPG site as well. They wanted to take the position of abstanince from gambling with the clients that were coming in, and treat them like a substance abuser or alcoholic. I had a major issue with this. For starters, you simply can't treat a person with problem gambling like a substance abuser/alcoholic. It just ain't gonna work.

                  You have to get them to modify their betting habits. Cut it back. Ween them off slowly while you give them options to do so. You can't do that with a crack addict. see my point? You have to come at problem gamblers differently. The company I was working for didn't see that way. So I left. What was interesting was some of the guys who I was helping in modifing their behavior wanted to still get together. So we meet a few times a week and discuss our gambling habits and what were doing about them. I charge them nothing for this service.

                  The company I was working for was shocked to find out that I was leading a group of problem gamblers in how to handicapp horses/ballgames, in conjunction with recognizing craving and urge triggers and how to deal with them on an impulsive disorder level. We obviously had philosophy differences in our way of going about getting results.

                  The bottom line here is most people are not problem gamblers. It is recreational and fun for them. However for me, once I learned how to control my obsessive compulsive behavior and imply strict discipline guidlines to my bankroll, along with keeping the emotion thing in check...gambling was looked at as no longer fun. So I am not in the same boat as the 96-97 percent of gamblers across this nation. However, I am proof that behavior can be modified and bad habits with an impulse disorder can be arrested while impliminting new habits to improve a person for the better.
                  What impulsive disorder?

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                  • #10
                    thanks for sharing your story

                    hope you make some money from your investment every month

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                    • #11
                      Thanks LSUMONSTER. Best of luck to you as well in all your plays for the green.
                      What impulsive disorder?

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                      • #12
                        Dude you should write professionally, you sure got a way with words.I think the majority of people who say they dont bet more than they can afford are delusional.Just because you can come up with the money doesnt mean you can afford to loose it. Speaking for myself i have always come up with my losses, but i really could have used that money for many things more important.I am not condemming any gambler(because i am one myself}If i knew how much money that i have given local bookies, off shore bookies, and phucking so called professional handicappers, i would probably be ashamed of myself.I have never met a gambler whom over the long run has turned any significant profit. Thats why Vegas is what it is, you win some and you lose more. GL Impulse ,these are just my opinions, not trying to offend anyone.
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                        • #13
                          You don't have any patients you can tell all this to...What is the point, in 10,000 words or less, you're trying to get to....

                          The name "ImpulsiveDisorder" that you carry and show, came about how...From where...What's it mean to you...

                          I have a 38 year old Son with a Masters and PHD in Clinical Counseling, Specializing in Child Pysocology, works extensively with Hardened criminals...I had him read this, and he told me to ask you about your handle, and why are you flaunting this...Are you about to collapse, or are you, in your own way, trying to stop others from getting where you are...


                          Don't make me go Cajun on your Ass!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by kmann
                            I have a 38 year old Son with a Masters and PHD in Clinical Counseling, Specializing in Child Pysocology
                            Kapt.,

                            Maybe your son can come into the forum one day and help some of us poor fellows here at BC. He would have a field day around here!!
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                            is like calling a drug dealer an 'unlicensed pharmacist'"

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                            • #15
                              To be honest many things in life are not worth the time or interspection.......Many things in life i do not care about the why's or why nots....Maybe i am too simplistic, but i live simply and do not overburden myself with what makes me do stuff....i have a sister who is a nurse pracitioner who is one of the smartest people i know who is living with a crutch for every endeavor she tries, which happens to be her childhood.....

                              and by the way i have had no picnic.....marine corps, broken back.....failed business and then 3 more buisnesses untl i sold out to the president of a large casino......life is persistance and accountability....

                              my philosophy is many people are weak and are not honest with themselves...always looking to blame this or that......want the crowning glory when things go well, but want to blame when things go bad......

                              life is full of wins and losses...trials and tribulations...but for the most part (outside of random events) we create our own paths.......

                              impulsive, it sounds as if you are very educated, but you may suffer from paralysis by analysis.....i say just live!!!
                              Last edited by TwoTonTony; 04-12-2005, 06:15 PM.

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