I really don't understand Saturday's World Cup Lines?

[wayne1218]

Why does Pinnacle have the game at a Pk (-400) for Germany and a "Germany to Advance" wager at (-315) ? Isn't it the same thing?

I understand the 1st wager where a draw is an option because it probably doesn't include penalty kicks but does it include overtime? I also don't see why Germany is a pk (-400) or - 1/2 (-154). Does that go through 90 mins. and extra time only or does it include the O.T. ?

Very confusing and reading the rules at Pinny didn't help much!

[tash]

wierd .... my guy has -160 on the 3-way lines and -160 with -1/2 .... -300 to advance to the quarters...

[wayne1218]

wierd .... my guy has -160 on the 3-way lines and -160 with -1/2 .... -300 to advance to the quarters...

Isn't -1/2 and advancing the same thing? Is the only difference that if it comes down to penalty shots -1/2 loses?

[tash]

good question ? i thought the -1/2 was for the entire game... including o.t. (the 2 - 15 mins.halfs ) and the shootout...but, with the big difference in odds ( to advance ) the shootout must not count ? hence the -300 to advance...I think everyone needs to check with their man to clarify things.... i'm just gonna hook germany and argentina together.... gl wayne !

[wayne1218]

I just found this at Pinnacle ...

3. Unless otherwise specified, wagers on the outcome of a match will be decided on regulation time only. This includes two halves of play and any time the referee adds on to compensate for injuries and other stoppages. It does not include periods of extra time nor penalty shootouts.

10. Bets on teams to qualify or to advance to the next round of a competition:

Bets are paid out on the referee’s final whistle at the match’s natural conclusion, whether the match is decided in regular time, extra time, or in a penalty shootout. Extra time and penalty shootouts are always included for betting purposes.

What this means is if you take the "Germany to Advance" wager, all that matters is who wins after regulation time, extra periods and a shootout. Everything else offered as a wager is based on 90 and extra time, not extra periods or penalty shots. If you take -1/2, they need to do it in a regulation game time!

[tash]

Makes Sense Now....thanks !

[shorty3830]

wayne.......

i still dont understand how germany to advance is -320 and germany pickem is -400

let say germany and sweden are tied 2-2 and germany advances in penalty shots

would i lose push the pickem bet but win the advance bet?

b

[10DimeBry]

its soccer whats to understand? soccer is gay

[wayne1218]

i still dont understand how germany to advance is -320 and germany pickem is -400

let say germany and sweden are tied 2-2 and germany advances in penalty shots

would i lose push the pickem bet but win the advance bet?

b

It's because Germany is expected to Win in regulation so the odds are higher. If it gets to a golden goal or shootout it would give Sweden a much better chance to pull off a goal or win. You would lose the Pick 'em if it went to overtime or a shootout.

What i don't get is the pk -159 with the Draw option and the -1/2 -156 option. They are the same thing. They are both regulation bet and a draw makes them both a loser while a 1 goal Germany win makes them both a winner. It must be why the odds are so similiar because it's basically the same bet!

[tash]

i still dont understand how germany to advance is -320 and germany pickem is -400

let say germany and sweden are tied 2-2 and germany advances in penalty shots

would i lose push the pickem bet but win the advance bet?

b

YOU WOULD LOSE PICK EM BET AND WIN THE ADVANCE BET... NOT SURE WHERE PICK EM IS -400 .... THAT SOUNDS CRAZY.... I SEE -160 ON THE PICK EM BET AND -160 WITH THE -1/2 ...MAYBE MY GUY IS WAY OFF ?

[wayne1218]

YOU WOULD LOSE PICK EM BET AND WIN THE ADVANCE BET... NOT SURE WHERE PICK EM IS -400 .... THAT SOUNDS CRAZY.... I SEE -160 ON THE PICK EM BET AND -160 WITH THE -1/2 ...MAYBE MY GUY IS WAY OFF ?

Your guy is WAY off according to Pinnacle where Pk is -400

[tash]

Unreal...but Whats The Difference ? Ties Lose And 1 Goal Difference You Win ? Unless Of Course You Bet The Dog (sweden)

Heres What I Have ...


Germany -160
Sweden +500
Draw +245

Goal Line

Germany -1/2 -160
Sweden +1/2 +130


Totals

Over 2- +115
Under 2- -145



Does This Make Sense ? Now I'm Alittle Confused...

[Kappa]

The Pick Em -400 would not lose in regulation time because there is no draw option when you are taking Pick Em -400. That's the reason why it's so high.

The -160 and -0.5 -160 will lose in regulation time because there is a draw option with that wager.

I agree with shorty though, still don't understand why Pick Em -400 in regulation time (push if there's a draw) is more expensive than Germany to advance at -320??? If I think Germany will win why would I take the -400 and not the -320?

Also, there is no golden goal. If tied after regulation time teams play two 15 minutes halves (total of 30 extra minutes). If after 30 minutes of extra time 1 team is leading they win. If it's still tied then they have a shoot out.

GL

Kappa

[wayne1218]

The Pick Em -400 would not lose in regulation time because there is no draw option when you are taking Pick Em -400. That's the reason why it's so high.

The -160 and -0.5 -160 will lose in regulation time because there is a draw option with that wager.

I agree with shorty though, still don't understand why Pick Em -400 in regulation time (push if there's a draw) is more expensive than Germany to advance at -320??? If I think Germany will win why would I take the -400 and not the -320?

Also, there is no golden goal. If tied after regulation time teams play two 15 minutes halves (total of 30 extra minutes). If after 30 minutes of extra time 1 team is leading they win. If it's still tied then they have a shoot out.

GL

Kappa

On The World Cup websites they do say there is a "Golden Goal" chance and it's in the 30 minute or two 15 minute extra periods. They kept saying that a "Golden Goal" can with it and move a team forward in that time period instead of getting to a shootout.

Their words!

[Kappa]

On The World Cup websites they do say there is a "Golden Goal" chance and it's in the 30 minute or two 15 minute extra periods. They kept saying that a "Golden Goal" can with it and move a team forward in that time period instead of getting to a shootout.

There words!

What I meant was that the game continues to be played for the full 30 minutes. If a team scores in the first 5 minutes of extra time the game does not end, it used before, but not anymore. It's still called a Golden Goal, meaning it's just the winning goal. The full 30 minute must be played even if a goal is scored. It is not a sudden death format!!

Kappa