Possible Pujols connection to Grimsley

[rented mule]

Let's be honest, if a player is in their walk year and has multiple millions of dollars on the line with free agency looming, why wouldn't they do an offseason cycle to improve their performance?

If you want to be cynical, here is the ultimate example.

Look at his 1996 stats and look at the very bottom of the page where it says he re-signed with the Orioles as a free agent in 1997.

One off-season cycle set him and his family for the rest of their lives.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/a/anderbr01.shtml

[CheechB03]

But what are the proven long term effects to health? No one really knows for sure. It's more speculation about the unknown, rather than proven long term damage to health.

Honestly, certain steroids can be beneficial to performance in the short to intermediate term if not abused and actually can provide short term joint relief.

Let's be honest, if a player is in their walk year and has multiple millions of dollars on the line with free agency looming, why wouldn't they do an offseason cycle to improve their performance?

That's my point. For guys already secure and with millions in the bank is it worth it? Not knowing the unknows.

You offer a valid point about 'walk year' players. However, what percentage of players are in their 'walk year' where they have to have a good season to make a difference with their new contract? How much do you think it'll affect a proven star player coming off an OK season? IMO very little. Baseball will still give a star player a juicy contract. We see it every year. We see average players getting obscene salaries.

[CheechB03]

If you want to be cynical, here is the ultimate example.

Look at his 1996 stats and look at the very bottom of the page where it says he re-signed with the Orioles as a free agent in 1997.

One off-season cycle set him and his family for the rest of their lives.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/a/anderbr01.shtml

Is Anderson the exception or the rule? For every Anderson there's dozens of non-Andersons.

[rented mule]

Is Anderson the exception or the rule? For every Anderson there's dozens of non-Andersons.

How do you know that?

There are mild steroids that produce incredible strength gains, but don't produce bulk. How would anyone ever know, prior to when the testing began? Not to mention that some of those mild oral steroids are the ones that aren't detected in the testing that's going on right now.

Professional athletes are very competitive human beings and we live in a time where people in their 20's and 30's are going to do things for the "now" without necessarily worrying about the consequences of something that may (or may not) affect their health 30 or 40 years from now.

[CheechB03]

How do you know that?

I don't. I admitted earlier I might be naive. Post #9

[bover1]

Only a matter of time for him to go down

Chone Figgins

POOR CHONE....

[CheechB03]

There are mild steroids that produce incredible strength gains, but don't produce bulk. How would anyone ever know, prior to when the testing began? Not to mention that some of those mild oral steroids are the ones that aren't detected in the testing that's going on right now.

I'll be the first to admit my knowledge of steroids is extremely limited.

[rented mule]

I don't. I admitted earlier I might be naive.

Pretty soon, I have a feeling that there are going to be a lot of people in the same boat as you. I wouldn't call it being naive. I'm just guessing that it's something you never really thought about until a couple of years back.

You would be absolutely shocked and blown away at how easy it is to obtain performance enhancing drugs, virtually anonymously.

[seaofred]

theres no doubt albert did the roids,and as someone said if bonds did them then albert did them.everyone knocks bonds all the time ,well now its alberts turn,lets be fair about this and say albert is a cheater also

seaofred