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**jason18** · 01-02-2006, 04:47 PM

I am not.all im saying is that this shit happens in every game.Tennessee florida a couple years ago,gaffney dropped the pass in the end zone,and they called it a TD.nd/usc horrible call or non call cost nd a win over usc.it happens in EVERY GAME that is my point.damn how many times do i have to explain this.

**gr8whtnorth** · 01-02-2006, 04:52 PM

Hey 1 or two bad calls can be expected but not as many as went Floridas way.

**jason18** · 01-02-2006, 04:54 PM

aight,but the one call everyone keeps harping on is the offsides call,and the roughing the passes call,right?

**KazDog** · 01-02-2006, 04:55 PM

You can't possibly compare the ND/USC call to the shit calls made in this game. And, all you've said is...I made money, who gives a fuck about anything or anyone else.

Players were burned, fans were burned, and most importantly on this site, bettors were burned. Show some class man. That's all it's about. I DIDN'T HAVE MONEY ON IT AND I SAW IT.....

KAZ

**jason18** · 01-02-2006, 04:58 PM

exactly why not?I just did,so i guess i can.A horrible call,so you said,in iowa cost them the game.a horrible call in usc/nd cost them the game.whats's the diff?Please explain and i will shut up!!!

**KazDog** · 01-02-2006, 05:04 PM

That was hardly a horrible call in the USC/ND game. It was barely a questionable call that many sports sportscasters say was a call that is NEVER made in football. How many times have you EVER seen in ANY game that called when a guy pushes his own man into the end zone? I watch a fuckload of football and have NEVER seen that called. Yet on most plays on the 1 yard line a back or QB gets pushed into the end zone. It's a no call in football at that stage of the game. To call it would have been just as bullshit. The offsides call in the Iowa game, would NOT have determined the game. Iowa, as YOU said would still have to get into the end zone....Game decided by the players NOT by the refs. USC/ND, would have been decided by refs and NOT the players if they make that call. GET THE DIFFERENCE????

KAZ

**jason18** · 01-02-2006, 05:06 PM

not at all but????a bad call is a bad call,no matter which team it is.by the way are you a USC fan?just curious.

**gr8whtnorth** · 01-02-2006, 05:08 PM

Originally posted by KazDog

That was hardly a horrible call in the USC/ND game. It was barely a questionable call that many sports sportscasters say was a call that is NEVER made in football. How many times have you EVER seen in ANY game that called when a guy pushes his own man into the end zone? I watch a fuckload of football and have NEVER seen that called. Yet on most plays on the 1 yard line a back or QB gets pushed into the end zone. It's a no call in football at that stage of the game. To call it would have been just as bullshit. The offsides call in the Iowa game, would NOT have determined the game. Iowa, as YOU said would still have to get into the end zone....Game decided by the players NOT by the refs. USC/ND, would have been decided by refs and NOT the players if they make that call. GET THE DIFFERENCE????

KAZ

Could not have said it any better!

**KazDog** · 01-02-2006, 05:09 PM

NO....Not in the least bit. I hate 'em. I'm a Fresno St. fan. As shitty as that sounds. I wished we would have beaten the Bastards!

**jason18** · 01-02-2006, 05:09 PM

ask ND fans if it was a bad call or not,since you like to bring in what fans think?

**KazDog** · 01-02-2006, 05:17 PM

Man....I just can't win with you. I'm done. If you don't see it, no amount of arguments I make will make you see it. You asked for a legitimate response, I gave you a very good one, and you still don't see it. THE REFS SHOULDN'T DECIDE THE OUTCOME! PERIOD! The refs did in the Iowa game, and didn't in the USC/ND game. In the USC/ND game, it wasn't a bad call, just a no call. Happens all the the time... Good luck to you young man, hope you win a lot of cash, it's appears to be quite important to you. I'll rest on my principles here.

KAZ

**griffey_mojo** · 01-02-2006, 05:21 PM

Thanks for trying Kaz......No point in wasting any more of your time......dead end road....if ya know what I mean

**Hoopsjunkie** · 01-02-2006, 05:21 PM

Well, hopefully something will happen that will make ND cover so I can get my $1000 back. lol. Iowa may not have went down the field and scored to tie it up, but we will now never know because the fucking officials had to decide the game on a bullshit fucking penalty.. He wasn't offsides, and if its that damn close, then you don't call it and let a game be decided on something your not sure about. Let the play go, fuck. Its not a matter of who bet on who, or who you like, its a matter of Iowa got fucked out of the chance to tie it up and possible win the bowl game. Its not about winning or losing money on this game for me, its about the ignorance of the Ref, and them depriving these young kids of a chance at tying it up. Iowa had all the momentum, and most likely would have went in for the score. I feel as sorry for those Iowa kids as I do for my $1000 down the drain.

**jason18** · 01-02-2006, 05:25 PM

thanks for your input grif very valuable

my last response to this.No they did not decide it,for the last time they would have to had go down and score.If they get the ball maybe they do maybe they dont.but ultimately,the refs didn't help florida score 31 points!done with this subject.gl rest of the day.

**griffey_mojo** · 01-02-2006, 05:28 PM

Originally posted by jason18

but ultimately,the refs didn't help florida score 31 points!

They sure as hell did......Did you already forget about the bogus flags on the TD drive right before half? Comon Jason.

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