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  • #16
    Don't forget the admitted Boston College point shaving scandal a number of years ago.
    Saying that that was an isolated incident is like seeing a cockroach in your home, killing it and then assuming the problem has been solved and that there are no others.

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    • #17
      I think this thread is fixed!!

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      • #18
        Originally posted by The Lovedoc
        I think this thread is fixed!!
        So is my cat!:angryfire

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        • #19
          I am sure that games are fixed on occassion, but my guess is that it is rare. Think about how difficult it would be to fix a football game. You have 24 players (11 offense, 11 defense, a punter, and a kicker) PER TEAM that all affect the outcome of the game. This does not even include coaches. Of course the QB would be the most likely target because he could affect the game by throwing interceptions or fumbling a snap. Nonetheless, the QB could not prevent a RB from taking the ball for a touchdown and could play bad enough to get pulled from the game quickly. Officials could also be a target, but their duties are so delegated that all of them would probably have to be on the take or else it would be obvious. For instance, one official keeps throwing his flag on phantom calls.

          Like I said, I am sure it happens but I bet it is very rare in football. In basketball a star player could really affect the outcome of the game by shaving points.
          dogpick
          Who let the dogs out?

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          • #20
            Dogpick-I also think the chances are much more likely in a basketball game and expecially in the last few minutes when the actual winner is not in doubt.
            If it could be proven one way or the other, I would bet anything that over the last few years there have been attempts by players, officials or others to fix the ats winner or total in certain Laker games.
            And yet dolt David Stern is more concerned about a coach criticising an official than in investigating the integrity of the game
            Last edited by savage1; 12-09-2005, 04:15 PM.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by savage1
              Dogpick-I also think the chances are much more likely in a basketball game and expecially in the last few minutes when the actual winner is not in doubt.
              If it could be proven one way or the other, I would bet anything that over the last few years there have been attempts by players, officials or others to fix the ats winner or total in certain Laker games.
              And yet dolt David Stern is more concerned about a coach criticising an official than in investigating the integrity of the game
              I think it could happen in basketball too. I don't know about the NBA. I think that the stars make so much money from game checks and endorsements that it would really take some serious money to get them to shave points. Perhaps reserves in a blowout. But then how could the person wanting the game fixed be assured if they paid off guys that might not get in? I could see it happening in college hoops, but I really doubt it happens as much as people tend to think.
              dogpick
              Who let the dogs out?

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              • #22
                If I'm on the other side,is it still a fix?

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                • #23
                  TO LSUMONSTER AND 10 DIME-DuDES

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                  Last edited by WayneChung; 12-09-2005, 05:37 PM.
                  DON'T YOU EAT THE YELLOW SNOW !! PS-MARVIN LOVES SPLIT SALAD !!

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                  • #24
                    Dogpick-you might think this does not make sense, but I think some players in the NBA and specifically the Lakers have not always done it for the money but for the feeling of powe,r knowing the line and knowing what they do with the basketball in the last few minutes canl determine what happens to multi thousands of dollar;don't ever forget that when you have all of the money you need, the next thing is power.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by PUNISHER
                      Thanks molta02. Haven't seen it, but with all the damn snow here in Ohio I think I might watch it tonight...........

                      get out of ohio!!!!!!!!!!hahahahaha. i dont miss the snow but i do miss my friends! a friend in college at osu had a brother who was benny (the asu bookie) roommate. he told us the story one time about the fbi and the investigation as well as how much cash they had the paties they thru blah blah blah.

                      this week in vegas they mentioned something about sports books rumors that the last 3 colorado games were not on the up and up. i watched the iowa state game and had a boatload on colorado. very shifty game. remember barnett had that scandal at nwestern with the running back or something fumbling inside the ten yd line all year. makes u go hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!
                      its easy to grin when your ship comes in...

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by PUNISHER
                        Thanks molta02. Haven't seen it, but with all the damn snow here in Ohio I think I might watch it tonight...........

                        get out of ohio!!!!!!!!!!hahahahaha. i dont miss the snow but i do miss my friends! a friend in college at osu had a brother who was benny (the asu bookie) roommate. he told us the story one time about the fbi and the investigation as well as how much cash they had the paties they thru blah blah blah.

                        this week in vegas they mentioned something about sports books rumors that the last 3 colorado games were not on the up and up. i watched the iowa state game and had a boatload on colorado. very shifty game. remember barnett had that scandal at nwestern with the running back or something fumbling inside the ten yd line all year. makes u go hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!
                        its easy to grin when your ship comes in...

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                        • #27
                          Kind of like going to jai-lai in florida--- just have to be on the wright side of the fix--- get it wright-- like your name-- hahah im hilarious

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                          • #28
                            buckeye ben needs too be banned...............................spark where u at!!!!!!!!!!!hahahahahahahahahahaha
                            its easy to grin when your ship comes in...

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                            • #29
                              good luck getting a fiesta bowl ticket-- now i have to fiqure out what to do with my second one--
                              peace

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                              • #30
                                hahahahahahahahaha. spark i was just kidding. ban me
                                its easy to grin when your ship comes in...

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