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I agree. I posted in non-gambling this morning because Rook was in that forum at the time. -
I'm already starting to tailgate....
Clemson/South Carolina tomorrow night....huge here
and then Bears/Panthers Sunday...
I Hope I'm sober enough to remember the games!
Vinny...like that teaser part 1....Comment
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I think the Bears get exposed here. I don't think they can contain the passing game, and don't have the offense to keep up. Defense will keep them in it, but not long enough. This Chicago team reminds me a lot of the team they had 4 or 5 years ago sneaking out games on D. Unfortunately, they will be playing good teams this second half. Honestly, I think they are overrated and will probably end up dropping 5 of their last 7 games.Comment
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It's very possible....but I"ll ask the same question as I did before.Originally posted by gbc
Lets say they are going to control the run..I think that's a safe assumption...if they key on Steve Smith, who is Jake gonna throw to? It's been Steve Smith or nothing! Look at the stats....
Receptions
Steve Smith 58-937 yds
DeShaun Foster 18-255
Rickey Proehl 13-233 yds
Seems to me the gameplan is pretty simple. Let anyone but Steve Smith beat you and you've got a very good chance.Comment
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Don't be fooled by Carolina's record. They have played the easiest schedule in the NFL.Originally posted by gbc
Last weekend at home they looked pretty average against a bad beat up Jets team. They were only leading 10-3 entering the 4th Qtr. The twenty points they scored in the 4th were off turnovers.Comment
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Extreamely good point Frank...that was a very tight game until the Jets implded with 4 straight turnovers on consecutive drives and then a turnover on downs after that.Originally posted by frankb03
But hey...I'm not gonna be shocked if Carolina wins...they are a good team.
I just hate all the people dogging the bears because of their schedule...they do what it takes to win. Period.
Lets see if they pass this test or not.Comment
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Easiest schedule in football, maybe, not much easier than the Bears though. The Bears have played one good team, Cincy and lost 24-7. I just think Carolina has more offense to beat the Bears. Let's not forget that the Bears have a very anemic passing offense and they are banged up at the RB postion. Carolina is ranked 2nd against the run giving up 81ypg (better than CHI). Carolina has caused 14 turnovers in the last 4 games and has 19 sacks. Everyone wants to talk about the Bears defense, Car's isn't too shabby either. If Car can shut down the run, what will the Bears do? Putting Orton in a must pass situation is bad news against a team who is forcing a lot of turnovers.Don't be fooled by Carolina's record. They have played the easiest schedule in the NFL.
Last weekend at home they looked pretty average against a bad beat up Jets team. They were only leading 10-3 entering the 4th Qtr. The twenty points they scored in the 4th were off turnovers.
Neither one of these teams have played a tuff schedule, we'll see who's for real this Sunday. Good luck to whoever you guys play.Comment
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[QUOTE]Originally Posted by frankb03
Don't be fooled by Carolina's record. They have played the easiest schedule in the NFL.
Last weekend at home they looked pretty average against a bad beat up Jets team. They were only leading 10-3 entering the 4th Qtr. The twenty points they scored in the 4th were off turnovers.
Extreamely good point Frank...that was a very tight game until the Jets implded with 4 straight turnovers on consecutive drives and then a turnover on downs after that.
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Yes, and the Bears needed to return a 108 yard field goal miss to beat the 49ers, possibly the worst team in the NFL.Comment
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Agreed but that was extremely tough conditions to play a football game. The Niners probably had 11 guys in the box. You couldn't throw the football.Yes, and the Bears needed to return a 108 yard field goal miss to beat the 49ers, possibly the worst team in the NFL.Comment
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What do you think about the other points I made? I just think the Def. match up pretty well, and I don't think it's even debatable which team has the better O.Comment
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Agreed. There's no debate on who has the better offense.Originally posted by gbc
Chicago leads the league in scoring defense and total yards allowed D.
Panthers are 2nd in rushing D. However, the best rushing team they've faced is New Orleans. They rank 12th in the league. The Panthers have faced Arizona (last in rushing), Packers (30th), Minny (28th) and Jets (29th).
I think Bears have the better D.Comment
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I think this is a FG game either way, so I'm more inclined to use both in some teasers.....getting Car +10 in a 4TT is looking really nice.....no way Chicago beats them by 10 if at all.Comment
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It probably will be close, these stats could be debated all day. Chicago leads the league in scoring defense and total yards allowed D......BUT let's look at the offenses they have played
Losses
Cincy 5th
Washington 10th
Cleve 24th
Wins
NO 20th
MN 25th
Balt 26th
Det 27th
SF 31stComment
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Originally posted by gbc
Good Point! Now my rebuttal
I think we'll agree that the Bengals have one of the leagues better offenses. Let's look closer at that game.
Bears had more total yards vs Cincy 255-244
They outrushed Cincy. Cincy out passed the Bears 161-149.
The difference in that game? Chicago had 6 turnovers vs one for Cincy. The Bears threw 5 INTs.
Cincy jumped to a 10-0 lead in the 1st Qtr. The Bears spent most of the game playing catch up. Cincy drives 18 yards after a turnover. The 2nd scoring drive in the 1st qtr. 5 plays 21 yards for a FG after another TO.Comment
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In that Cincy game the Bears threw 39 passes with a rookie 3 games into his career. The rest of their games they average only 25 passes per game.Comment
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