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  • #16
    [QUOTE=CHICAGODOG]
    Originally posted by wayne1218


    This could be true partly to the fact they dont have many late inning leads to blow!!!!!!!!!
    That's true (and obvious) but when you use save % that shows whether it's 10 games or 30, they still hold a lead more consistantly than anyone else when given the chance!

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    • #17
      Pitchers making relief appearances for the Pirates this year have an ERA of 4.13, which ranks 14th in the majors and 6th in the NL. Cleveland has the top reliever ERA at 2.85 and Arizona has the worst at 5.70.

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      • #18
        IMO these numbers are misleading due to the fact the pirates are going no where and there is less pressure on them to produce in tight situations!!!!!Put one of them on a contender !!!!!In a game that means something ....Who will be calling them come july 31 for bullpen help!!!!!!Not me.......Maybe MESA Maybe!!!!
        Last edited by CHICAGODOG; 07-19-2005, 06:35 PM.
        NFL RECORD 16-14-0 + 1UNITS

        College Basketball 8-3-0 + 5 Units

        College Football 6-6-1 -4 Units

        NBA Basketball 11-12-0 -3 Units

        NHL 1-1-0 + 0 Units

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        • #19
          aahhh who cares they need the lead first to protect it and that is thier downfall
          TO BET OR NOT TO BET THAT IS THE QUESTION

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          • #20
            Originally posted by ctt8410
            Pitchers making relief appearances for the Pirates this year have an ERA of 4.13, which ranks 14th in the majors and 6th in the NL. Cleveland has the top reliever ERA at 2.85 and Arizona has the worst at 5.70.
            The stat is based on CLOSING a game, not middle relief.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by CHICAGODOG
              IMO these numbers are misleading due to the fact the pirates are going no where and there is less pressure on them to produce in tight situations!!!!!Put one of them on a contender !!!!!In a game that means something ....Who will be calling them come july 31 for bullpen help!!!!!!Not me.......Maybe MESA Maybe!!!!
              You can "Call It" misleading but teams 2-5 on that list are ALL in 1st place! That shows something for the stat and it's importance. I didn't say you had to like it but it is what it is and there is a reason why teams like Washington and the White Sox are having great years and on the list!

              2. St Louis
              3. Anaheim
              4. Washington
              5. White Sox


              It's not like it's cluttered up top with bad teams and in the closing role, Pitt. can hold their own with the Big Boys!

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              • #22
                ok ok ok we will see what the numbers look like at the end of the year!!!!Then continue this discussion!!!!We sholud get a good look at this bullpen today!!!!Snell who is from the bullpen is getting rocked!!!
                Last edited by CHICAGODOG; 07-19-2005, 06:49 PM.
                NFL RECORD 16-14-0 + 1UNITS

                College Basketball 8-3-0 + 5 Units

                College Football 6-6-1 -4 Units

                NBA Basketball 11-12-0 -3 Units

                NHL 1-1-0 + 0 Units

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                • #23
                  It doesn't look like they will have a chance to close it again today!

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