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[wayne1218]

Wayne, what's your take on the purpose of this thread? You haven't weighed in. I know you only post units.

Also, as a mod what's the chances as Mike suggested of having a "Bettor's Chat Code of Posting" type of ethics?

I told Spark through email that i didn't think you could ever get all the members on the same page with posting units, especially with newbies here daily. I think people should honestly post in whatever format they choose. When i 1st came here i used to post with $ amounts and i truly didn't feel right about it for many reasons so i stopped. I thought it made the little $ gamblers feel like lesser people and i also didn't feel like i needed people to know what i was gambling.

Units work best imo because to some a unit is $5 to others $10 and to some $1,000 so if you say 3 units i feel the capper can adjust accordingly. If you put $300 on one wager and $700 on another it is just harder to gauge the strengths of a play because it's always so different. As you have seen i have a strict style of posting and i do it so others can easily understand just how much i like a game.

[Spark]

You know I think we may be missing the point here ... it is ashame because I really do like RJ and I think he is good for the board but I feel he keeps messing up .. I kept telling him to end it because he was getting himself in deeper and deeper ...

Last week he started a thread about keying a HUGE favorite in 3 parlays ... Never said he did it but just asked for opinions ... after the game was OVER he says he keyed that team in 3 parlays and he has that going into the night games .. That same day he went into EZ's thread and told him maybe he was parlaying too much ... I feel this is what brings nothing but negative attention to him .. It is not right and something is wrong ...

Pay attention to posts #1 and #10 .. #10 is made after the Cubs won 10-3 ...

http://www.bettorschat.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=62794

[wayne1218]

You know I think we may be missing the point here ... it is ashame because I really do like RJ and I think he is good for the board but I feel he keeps messing up .. I kept telling him to end it because he was getting himself in deeper and deeper ...

Last week he started a thread about keying a HUGE favorite in 3 parlays ... Never said he did it but just asked for opinions ... after the game was OVER he says he keyed that team in 3 parlays and he has that going into the night games .. That same day he went into EZ's thread and told him maybe he was parlaying too much ... I feel this is what brings nothing but negative attention to him .. It is not right and something is wrong ...

Pay attention to posts #1 and #10 .. #10 is made after the Cubs won 10-3 ...

http://www.bettorschat.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=62794

Spark we talked about this and you are absolutely right. It's how and why problems get started. 3 minutes before he posted the thread/link you just provided he told John to lay off the parlays, yet when the game went final he supposedly did what he said not to. Say it before the game or don't say it at all.

http://www.bettorschat.com/forums/sh...311#post396311

[Mike1]

He is a big hypocrite. He tells people what not do, and them he does it himself. If another member posted a 10,000 wager on the Yanks at -270, he would have been the first one down their throat.

[CoverBoy]

Great Thread.


Kmann,

Great Write-Up...

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RJ

" Great Thread " ?

What do you mean by " Great Thread " ? How "great" can this really be? You're still posting plays with money values attached , (and it's your right to do that ) but without even commenting about considering change or discussing any alternative.


It’s apparent that you either disagreed ( you're allowed ) or ignored altogether it's content but you had to show your face in here ... make your appearance ... and yet you chose not to voice any say in the matter . Your input would have been appreciated.

So ... now ... tell me ... " Great Thread " .... What does that mean ???


Do you mean ...


" Great thread guys and I'll certainly consider posting all future plays in Units or Stars "

or

" Nice Try, Guys ...Thanks , but no thanks .... I'll pass ... but it's a great thread just the same "

or

" Great Thread !!!! ( then to yourself you say .. Yeah Right ... Great Thread MY ASS ..... Fuck Them All and I'll do whatever I God damn well please without any regard for anyone and I don't give 2 shits who goes to the poor house or who gets exposed ... because ... hey ... after all ... it's only about my FOOTNOTED RECORD "



Ron - You have to answer .. YOU OWE ... no way around it ... no more Fairy Tales to tell . You lost a big play this week ... it happens . You Temporarily Tilted Out and lost some control ... hey it happens to the best of us . ... BUT people trusted you and the least you could have done was to behave like a man in the aftermath. They deserved much more than what you gave them.

[surveyor]

I have visited this forum almost everyday for 2 years. I do not post plays because I am a novice capper and would not want anyone following my plays. So basically all I can do is root on other posters. Does this make me less of a member because I do not post plays. I guess some here would think so. I have learned alot from this site and I respect the cappers that do post their plays out thier for everyone to see.It takes guts. RJ from the beginning has been all about views which I do not have a big problem with but when you combine that with the fact his record from the get go has been a sham and deceiving lowers the integrity of the site. I have brought his record up several times and just get chastised for it and called alot of uncalled for names. If you have followed his plays over the course of time it is apparent that he does not wager at all and their is nothing wrong with that as frank said some of the best cappers do not. I can list you numerous examples of why I know he probably does not wager but will not get into that. It is all the part of the big deception he plays to get views. At one point he was posting plays from a capper from another site which again nothing wrong with that but he claimed he was not, even when members from that site were over here questioning him about it. I know for a fact he was as I documented the plays and they were the exact same nba plays every day. I think RJ probably is a good guy and made alot of friends on this site. He just needs to realize plays can be documented and are in black and white. No need to decieve and post fraudulent stuff. Rj has alot he can offer the site and some good plays to boot if he would just be straitforward and honest which I have my doubts can happen.After everything that has transpired.
GL
:christmas

[BigTicket]

I am curious as to why the topic of regular posters not sharing their honest opinion is becoming a theme in this thread? Does that mean that the more people that disagree with the way RJ conducted himself then the closer he gets to being kicked out or what? I just dont understand that. I think the guy does deserve some respect despite his immaturity because he has contributed to this site and I don't think he has ever tried to trick or hurt anyone on here purposefully. Frank and Wayne, for example, I notice how you guys have an opinion on everything. That's fine with me and entertaining to read, but that's not me and probably not the way other member's like to be either. Level of criticism or level of sharing your opinion shouldn't really matter in the grand scheme of bettorschat. I am not afraid to share my opinion when asked for it, but I dont feel its my place to go into someone else's thread and tell them what I think when they don't ask for it, ya know?

I think that the length of this thread and the time it has been at the top of all threads has shown to be the "penalty" if you will at this point. Hopefully, RJ understands that this bull shit he has tried to pull over on all the people that view his posts is done with, you called his bluff and there's no way he can go back to it. It really boils down to an inflated ego, imo, and I think we all know people like that. If you look at a lot of the controversy he's been in, it boils down to him being looked at better or being considered a mod or having "president" as his user title, you get the picture. The guy just sees how consistent and good people like wayne are and it's frustrating to him!! He wants to be the best!! Well, the truth is, he isn't.....and the marathon not a sprint line is ringing true.

I will keep typing. There is a post in here about how we really shouldn't care about helping others or preventing problems with younger people, and I 100% disagree with that. I am sure lots of silent members read some of this thread and think this is a waste of time, this is bettorschat lets just bet and get it over with and let me get into my huge credit card debt and then read what's between the lines later. This is why this forum is the best on the net and it's unique. It's because people care and make issues of things to help other people out. That's awesome!! I KNOW I dont see this type of shit on other forums, and they probably chalk it up to being more "professional" or whatever, but I say that's bull shit, let your guard down and be real people instead of wannabe playa's who think their gonna live their life off of gambling winnings. If someone were to read this thread all the way through I would think they would get something out of it. I want to see RJ let his guard down and not try to be the "best" here, because he isn't going to be the best. Just be one of the guys, be honest about losses and be honest about where you are getting your plays. The one thing that had really pissed me off was the way RJ tried to re-direct the criticism on him to surveyor or other people because they were the "dickheads" who posted (just) criticism in his thread. That was totally out of line and it was really too bad those guys who tracked RJ didn't get defended. More props should be given to them at this point because they called him out and then still took all of his shit without blowing their tops. RJ has always been able to live by the double standard because he is one of the "buddies" or 3 blind mice or whatever the hell they call that group. I am sure at this point some of their eyes are opened, or maybe they knew this all along and just kept it to themselves, who knows. The point is RJ has been called out and I think everyone on this site can learn a lesson from this, whether it be seeking attention, being a real person, money management, how to treat other people, or how to voice your opinion and resolve issues. I apologize for this long unorganized blob.

[surveyor]

Well said Bigticket. GL today!

[Kaptain]

Damn Big Ticket---that was kinda well said....A lot of good points there...I say lets carry on, get aboard the Kaptains ship, and let it all hang out....(Big Weiner) has restrictions....Pretty sharp propellors...

You're welcome to come aboard the Kruise anytime, especially when we go to the "Used to be Virgin" Islands,,,kapt

[Lsufan]

Kaptain Kmann

Damn Big Ticket---that was kinda well said....A lot of good points there...I say lets carry on, get aboard the Kaptains ship, and let it all hang out....(Big Weiner) has restrictions....Pretty sharp propellors...

You're welcome to come aboard the Kruise anytime, especially when we go to the "Used to be Virgin" Islands,,,kapt

Kaptain,

You wait to post this in Post # "69." Just come out and say it ... You want to put on your dress, and "let it all hang out."

[husker]

great posts today. i thought i was the only person that thought something was wrong. glad to see others step forward. does it seem odd that bh$ made a simular huge play a couple days pryor to rj's(rj critized)? he later claimed he had partners also.

[LSUMONSTER]

great posts today. i thought i was the only person that thought something was wrong. glad to see others step forward. does it seem odd that bh$ made a simular huge play a couple days pryor to rj's(rj critized)? he later claimed he had partners also.

WHAT'S WRONG WITH HAVING PARTNERS???
LET SAY ME AND MY FRIEND PUT IN 100 EACH ON 1 ACCT. AND I SAY I PLACE A $200 BET TODAY, DO I HAVE TO SAY
THIS IS A JOINT ACCT???

[rented mule]

WHAT'S WRONG WITH HAVING PARTNERS???
LET SAY ME AND MY FRIEND PUT IN 100 EACH ON 1 ACCT. AND I SAY I PLACE A $200 BET TODAY, DO I HAVE TO SAY
THIS IS A JOINT ACCT???

The problem is that these partners don't appear until after the game is a loss. If it wins, there's a perception that there would be no partners.

It goes back to the same question. Why would anyone care how much money people on an internet chat board think they are winning or losing?

[LSUMONSTER]

It goes back to the same question. Why would anyone care how much money people on an internet chat board think they are winning or losing?[/QUOTE]

EXACTLY. ( I MYSELF DONT CARE HOW MUCH MEMBER X OR MEMBER Y LOSING/WINNING AND DONT WANT TO KNOW EITHER)

[husker]

WHAT'S WRONG WITH HAVING PARTNERS???
LET SAY ME AND MY FRIEND PUT IN 100 EACH ON 1 ACCT. AND I SAY I PLACE A $200 BET TODAY, DO I HAVE TO SAY
THIS IS A JOINT ACCT???

thats not the point i was making. what is the advantage of partners in gambling?