To ALL Service Haters....

[frankb03]

Re: sports-plays, and other services

Originally posted by shorty3830
if you are doing it as a business, and you go 1-6 in a week (like i did last week), 90% of services will come out with a different statistic to hide the 1-6 or else you would not be advertising with any degree of intelligence

Shorty, that is why the likes of Root have all these BS clubs, Chairman, Millionaire, No limit. When one club goes bad he promotes the others. He is a con.

[wizardofoddz]

Sports-Plays

Someone should take you out behind the garage and fuck you in that big ass of yours, you must have a BIG ASS to make statements like this

I am starting to think that many people who hate services are just a little envious that they aren't the ones reaping the benefits of the MANY gullible people out there. "A Fool and his money are soon parted"....and if some service is getting this guys money, then how can you blame them??

So you admit you like fucking people?

No offense, but I am tired of all the bashing of the decent, hard working services trying to change the reputation of this industry!!!

Decent, hardworking people trying to fuck people out of thier money?
You have now showed your true colors, if BC lets you even post on his site any longer he is crazy.
Don't eveen bother replying, you have made your point and it makes me fucking sick.
Assholes like you, give services a bad name, blame it on NO one else......

[meteor]

"I am starting to think that many people who hate services are just a little envious that they aren't the ones reaping the benefits of the MANY gullible people out there. "A Fool and his money are soon parted"....and if some service is getting this guys money, then how can you blame them??"

ya that's right..we are envious because we are not low life scumsuckers scamming money out of people..you've got it bang on.this very opinion of yours proves in itself why so many of you are hated:

because the majority of you,not all but the majority, are fucking scumbags and assholes

[frankb03]

wallstreet

No flame intended for you.

I knew what you meant. I think this thread is perfect in this area. A service has admitted to taking advantage of 'gullible' people.

[Sports-Plays]

You idiots who think I was saying that I take advantage of people will never win because you choose not to read between the lines!

Read a little further and see that I REFUND money if no net unit gains are made! So yeah, I take advantage of gullible people??!! The gullible people are the ones who won't/can't do research on their own with the vast number of capping resources out there and decide to trust their money with some jerkoff tout! If some guy makes money off of it, so be it. I wish I was the guy who retired a millionaire selling the "pet rock"....get it?



Wizardofass.....When did I admit I like fucking people? Besides your girlfriend I mean? I simply said that there will ALWAYS be people out there taking advantage of others. You disagree? You might, because you are unintelligent. And yes, some of us are decent and hardworking.

if you really think you have an argument when my company refunds money to clients, then you really should have been a blowjob!!

The Ham mer

[meteor]

"I am starting to think that many people who hate services are just a little envious that they aren't the ones reaping the benefits of the MANY gullible people out there. "A Fool and his money are soon parted"....and if some service is getting this guys money, then how can you blame them??"

this is your opinion that you posted sports plays.whether you refund your client's money or not has nothing to do with it.if you think that the actions described in the above paragraph are ok as you are the one that wrote it,and that we are "envious that we aren't the ones reaping the benefits of the MANY gullible people out there."...then you don't know shit about the posters here because we,unlike most of your bretheren actually have a conscience.

[smartmoneysport]

This is getting ugly. But here are my two cents. I don't know how much a lot of these services make. The big ones make a lot. The mid and small range probably not much. If our service makes enough to cover operational costs and put a little in the pocket I don't see what's wrong with it. I started a service because like many of you self-cappers you were scammed when you were younger. I was winning all my plays and losing all my big service plays. Then I realized with the internet and all the handicapping tools available. why not try to turn hard work into a few bucks from anyone who will listen. You guys know when you post plays here the public sees all. all the self cappers know how bad it feels when you put your plays in public view and lose. you feel bad because you know others were on it. when you charge money you feel twice as bad. I wouldn't try to sell my plays if I didn't think I could win.

I welcome all critisism and comment at [email protected]

[jason18]

why you gotta bring wiz's girlfriend into it you fuck your clients which are mostly men which do you prefer

[savage1]

Having just scanned through all of the posts regarding this matter my comments are that 1) the paid services are the ones who should be envious of the great FREE cappers here like Memphis, Ez Winners, Poboy, Homer, etc.
Perhaps if they (the paid cappers) could come anywhere close to the very fine record maintained by these folks, there might be a reason for them to exist.
2) Paid and honest small cappers should vent their frustration and anger toward the scammer/marketers(not handicappers) like Jack Price, ****** Demarco, Stu Feiner, Feist and Company, etc.
Perhaps if they and others could either get the biggies to clean up their act and/or expose them for what they are, they(the small services could (if they were really good) generate some business and or at least have the bad connotation taken away from the term handicapping service brought about by the aforementioned big name crooks.
The people who criticize here on a daily basis are sure as heck not envious;most including myself have been burned in the past and are simply stating our opinions based on fact to enlighten those who are just starting out and/or might believe the outrageous claims and lies made be the big name services.

[frankb03]

Originally posted by Sports-Plays
You idiots who think I was saying that I take advantage of people will never win because you choose not to read between the lines!

Clearly, you are a moron. What does my winning have to do with reading between the lines. Give me a break.

Read a little further and see that I REFUND money if no net unit gains are made! So yeah, I take advantage of gullible people??!! The gullible people are the ones who won't/can't do research on their own with the vast number of capping resources out there and decide to trust their money with some jerkoff tout! If some guy makes money off of it, so be it. I wish I was the guy who retired a millionaire selling the "pet rock"....get it?

I read further, and you say you REFUND money. IF (that's a big IF) you do then you deserve to be commended. However, by your own admission you take advantage of the "gullible". You said it!

Wizardofass.....When did I admit I like fucking people? Besides your girlfriend I mean? I simply said that there will ALWAYS be people out there taking advantage of others. You disagree? You might, because you are unintelligent. And yes, some of us are decent and hardworking.

Clearly, you are a 20something punk. I stopped saying those things about others mothers and girlsfriends about 20 years ago. It shows your immaturity.

Sports-Plays, trust me! There's not a single insult you can fling my way that would bother me. One huge advantage about GROWING UP? You learn who you are. I'm very comfrotable with myself and my life. You need to grow up. You started this debate.

[GOBUCKSPB]

SCAMDICAPPERS SUCK!

Listen, for the majority of the so called "EXPERTS" they suck! Most of the bastards don't post their true win/loss percentages. Marc Lawrence, for one, is absolutely positively HORRIBLE! My cat could do a better job of picking than him! Feist and his gang are deplorable and dispicable! He should be put in jail for fraud! If you so called EXPERTS were above board, then why don't you publish your percentages? Why don't you bring some sort of respectability to the industry? I'll tell you why: Because you all are crooked as the day is long. There are some real handicappers in this forum that simply kick the living shit out of you so called experts. Take your pleas for acceptance and simpathy and take a flying leap. YOU SUCK!

[frankb03]

GOBUCKSPB

The services have no desire to publish their true records. If they did they wouldn't be able to PREY on the desperate.

Services are fucking PREDATORS.

Sports-Plays wants us to believe he's honest and refunds money. How can we when in the same post he admits to taking advantage of the gullible.

[wayne1218]

Sports-Plays

So if you go 56% you don't refund money?

So basically they still lost money right?......cause they didn't profit enough to pay for the picks too?



Yes car salesman and cable companies all call you right?

They also guarantee to give you a product that works 100%

You now have cable tv and as long as you pay your guaranteed the product. Guess what, phone's are the same way.

With the simple cost of a service you should guarantee 60% or money back. And what if you have a horrible week and give the guy his money back? Doesn't he still have to then give out all kinds of money because of you? Hell you don't lose a thing and in the end they have NOTHING materialistic to show for their "Hefty" Financial purchase......Nothing.

Even a guy that screws you selling a car still gets you the damn car. Think about it cause your theories won't fly on this board. Too many people here know what their doing UNLIKE your "Victims" (clients).

[JCDSPORTS]

NOT ALL

services are predators. JCDSPORTS does not generally respond to bashes on services because it is a no win situation. However, we feel that Bettors Chat is one of the best forums around and we are on quite a few, so we felt we should respond.
JCDSPORTS was formed in 1999 by 4 men who were tired of services ripping of the public and making money off of "gullilble people". We work hard at what we do and our clients pay us to do the work that they either don't know how to do or don't have time to do. We post our winners AND LOSERS everyday on our website so that all our clients know that we didn't give out Florida to one client and Alabam to another. This is done everyday!! We finished 3rd overall in all sports for 2003 as monitored by Trackpicks. We pay monitoring service to watch us FOR YOU. Most of you have seen our posts and you know we tell you when we win and when we lose.
Does JCDSPORTS make many from our clients? Yes we do. Do we rape them with unreasonable prices? No we don't. We are running a pay after you win special now with a 2 week guarantee.
Our prices are very reasonable (seasonal less than $20 per week) and we are not afraid to back up what we say. JCDSPORTS does not believe in 1000000*** LOCK GAMES. There is NO SUCH THING AS A LOCK. We know that and so do you. Do we feel stronger about some plays more than others? Yes we do. That is why it is called gambling. We are not her trying to prey on gullilible people, we are her trying to do an honest days work and help people wager on games they don't know how or don't have time to handicap.
Remember our winners and losers are posted everyday at www.jcdsports.com We are not begging for your business. We just don't want you forum viewers to think ALL handicappers are scammers because JCDSPORTS feels that we are not scammers, just good handicappers trying to make a little money for the work we do.
Thanks,
Dave
Managing Partner
JCDSPORTS

[GOBUCKSPB]

Wayne & Frank

Gents - all I can say is - BRAVO! You guys just flat out kick ass and I'm thankful I found this site! I think we can all agree that, for the most part, SCAMDICAPPERS are FRAUDS. Certainly, there are a few exceptions, but let's face it: We don't see them posting their FREE pics that are worth as shit on Bettorschat, do we? Fundamentally, we bet for the challenge and enjoyment of it, but what makes the experience that much more exciting is WINNING! You Bettorschat Pros have a better record than the bastards you have to pay for picks! I was suckered by Feist for the tune of 2 large - Never Again! The first two weeks they went 77%. The last 4 they went 41%. I lost my ass but gained much wisdom. Distilled to its' essence: This site kicks ass and the bastards that make you pay for picks and don't publish their true win/loss records ought to be hauled into prison for fraud!

Good luck to all!!!

P.S. When you have to pay for a pick and don't check out Bettorschat.com, you only have yourself to blame for your losses!!!