Does Tom Brady's punishment fit the crime? Thoughts/Discussion

[atolunch]

So in your opinion Tom Brady should not get into the hall of fame?

IMO, No, he should not get into the HOF. This wasn't a one time fluke, he's been doing this for years, so you have to question his entire career, he's in the same category as Bonds, Arod and all the other CHEATERS. All of his wins, stats, records are sullied because of his cheating actions. This is something he chose to do and orchestrated, he has only himself to blame.

Also, you keep stating that Luck and the Colts used the same balls. That is incorrect. Each team uses their own balls, they do not share them, so Luck and the Colts were not using deflated balls as you stated here and in your other piece.

Clearly you're a Cheats, I mean Pats fan and apologist. This wasn't a witch hunt, this is just bringing to light the culture of cheating that is rampant throughout the entire Pats organization. The sad part is we'll never know if they were really good enough to be considered great teams or a dynasty because plain and simple, every SB win is severely tainted by a major cheating scandal.

Like it or not, Bellacheat, Kraft and Brady have made their collective bed and they have to sleep in it.

[garth]

One could argue that each of the reported cheating incidents didn't make a difference in the outcome of that particular game. I wonder, however, how often similar cheating incidents did make a difference in a game. In professional sports, the difference between winning and losing can come down to small differences in performance since every team is capable of winning on 'any given Sunday'.

So one could also argue that cumulatively gaining an edge over a season(s) through a pattern of cheating could have made a difference in whether the team wins a division title, a conference championship, a super bowl. If that argument is plausible, then the Pats' legacy is indeed forever tainted.

[kbsooner21]

LMAO Steeler fans are so bitter toward the Pats. It's comical. Can't wait til one day when the Pittsburgh police chief/head of Steeler security gets all his secrets out of all the shit he's swept under the rug all these years.

[10DimeBry]

No. the fact that the footballs were inspected at halftime and set to regular pressure and Pats proceeded to kick the snot out of Indy is enough proof to know that this is a minor infraction at best. I'm not even sure why Brady is even being suspended in the 1st place. Players straddle the line on rules daily on a variety of things. If this suspension holds. Basically every player in the league should be worried about a suspension.

[NEJAKE]

No. the fact that the footballs were inspected at halftime and set to regular pressure and Pats proceeded to kick the snot out of Indy is enough proof to know that this is a minor infraction at best. I'm not even sure why Brady is even being suspended in the 1st place. Players straddle the line on rules daily on a variety of things. If this suspension holds. Basically every player in the league should be worried about a suspension.

[NEJAKE]

Also losing 2 draft picks is insane.

[atolunch]

NE fans are the best!

If none of the cheating the organization does and has been caught for never gives them any type of edge or advantage, why do they go through all of the trouble of doing it, continually???

Oh, that's right, because everyone does. They all just don't get caught?

C'mon, even die hard Pats fans can't still really believe that BS. Just admit that its a group that only cares about getting a W and rules, morals, and basic human decency have no place anywhere within the organization. Brady looks worse by the minute.

Kraft has really shown himself to be a true scumbag throughout this process. Goodell should increase the penalties after seeing what these asshats are doing to further sully the shield. Truly pathetic. The situation is so bad that somehow Bellacheat is almost coming out of this as the least reprehensible of the den of cheats!

[jcindaville]

I'm sorry Pat fan, that's just funny

[BettorsChat]

Actual report:

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...flate-doc.html