The Other Reason Cleveland Will WIN Again Today

[thesandman]

I haven't posted anything for awhile but when I see something like todays Washington/Cavs game, I can't ignore it. So, this is what I see.

We all know Washington has lost 25 away games in a row. There is no special reason today will be different. Cleveland can now play without the weight of their losing streak and instead of playing not to lose, like Washington will, they can play to win.

Now for the real reason the Cavs will win again today. It's the very same reason why they won the other night against the Clippers.

MO WILLIAMS IS BACK. It was his first game since Jan 15th and while his 17 points made a difference, the real reason Cleveland won were his 14 Assists. They are a different team with Williams at the point, which you will see again today.

Cleveland is minus 1.5. Washington on the road is a worse team than Cleveland at home. Play the Cavs.

[violivei12]

ehh....

[savage1]

The other side of the coin is that the game which Cleveland won the other night against the Clippers to break the losing streak was a real tough game which went to overtime-it probably took a lot out of them, and you see the result today.

[savage1]

Not to belabor the point, but it could be argued that Washington was as intent at ending their 25 game losing streak on the road as was Cleveland the other night in ending their streak.
Deep down inside perhaps the Washington players sensed this was a great opportunity to win as they were catching Cleveland off its high the other night and even more so because Cleveland expended a lot of energy in that game.
Sure hindsight is easy, and I didn't play the game at all because playing on one of two horrible teams who are playing oen another just isn't my cup of tea; there are way too many uncertainties, in this case how Cleveland would play after finally ending their losing streak a few days ago.

[thesandman]

savage. I see what you are saying; however, the fact Washington was in a back to back from playing San Antonio, while Cleveland had a full day of rest at home, I felt cancelled out whatever "high" Cleveland was feeling. I did watch both games and Washington was hitting contested jump shots from all over the place. Even the Washington announcers were surprised. But they were not playing "run and gun" which is the best way to take advantage of tired teams.

It cost me but because I base most of my plays on situations, instead of stats, I would make this same play again.

[savage1]

Sandman-I don't want to say anything which mike embarrass you, but the fact that you said you would play Cleveland again compels me to say something about your thought processes:
I know you are trying to give everyone a winner, but lets face it, your plays posted here in all sports during the past few years have not been good, and thats being kind.
Without saying how many games you have lost in order not to embarrass you(I went back and checked all of your posts and checked the scores), and lets just say that going back to the end of December 2009, I counted only one post which was a winner.
You might want to go back over and check your posts and verify that what I said was correct.
Please take what I say as constructive criticism-perhaps you should at the very least take a look/modify your criterion for picking games.
Best of luck in the future.

[savage1]

ps For anyone who thinks I may be talking off the top of my head, simply check every one of Sandman's posts, get the pick and date and then go to scoresandodds.com and look at the results.
My intent is not to hurt Sandman or anyone here for that matter, but when someone starts out by saying he doesn't come around much to give a pick and tells folks to play it, it might lead some to believe that the pick is really special.
I think it is important for anyone to know how the person has done in the past before just blindly playing it.

[thesandman]

savage. Anyone who checks someones posts for the past year looking for that persons picks and then looking for the result of each pick needs to get a life. Anyone who can read and understand what they read, would see that when I post a pick, I also post my reasons for the pick. No one if forced to play my picks. If they agree or disagree with my reasoning it's still their decision to play or not play my pick. And yes, my picks are special based on the reasons I share. The day I post a play without posting my reasoning for that play, is the day you and anyone else can warn everyone here not to play my pick blindly, or better still, when you see a play from me, you can tell everyone to just fade my plays.

For someone who rarely if ever posts plays, you sure have some nerve questioning my thought process. I've been "playing" longer than most and since you are saying "your (meaning me) plays posted here in all sports during the past few years have not been good, and thats being kind" you have my permission to post ALL the plays I've posted here in all sports for as you say, the past few years. That should help you pass the time.

[bryce]

Keep posting sandman. I know you don't post often but always enjoy reading what you think. You usually provide an angle which is what we need here... Win lose or draw keep them coming buddy. Savage may have got off base or whatever..... Who cares... I know you have a lot to offer this board. Come around more often buddy.

I am sure Savage didn't mean harm...

[wayne1218]

Savage is way off base. Everything about his posts are bush league imo. To go through years of picks from a guy and to tell him how bad he is ........... is just pathetic on savages part. To call somebody out like that for no reason is total bullshit really. Savage should know that without me or anyone saying it and the way he tried to sugarcoat it is even more pathetic. He isn't a service savage. We all know you love them. There was really no reason for his posts except to rip the guy and there is no need for that here.

[insidethe8thpol]

Savage is way off base. Everything about his posts are bush league imo. To go through years of picks from a guy and to tell him how bad he is ........... is just pathetic on savages part. To call somebody out like that for no reason is total bullshit really. Savage should know that without me or anyone saying it and the way he tried to sugarcoat it is even more pathetic. He isn't a service savage. We all know you love them. There was really no reason for his posts except to rip the guy and there is no need for that here.

I'm behind this post 53%

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[savage1]

Ok-since some fo you folks challenged what I say, I will give you the cold facts-go back and check see if they are accurate.
Sandman counting Cleveland has now lost 14 straight picks and 16 out of 17.
Sorry, but I don't think it is right for Sandman or anyone for that matter to tell folks to blindly play his picks without mentioning that his picks and reasoning have not been good.
What I did was not bush league at all-I always look at Sandman'ss picks, and it just seemed to me that that the picks and reasoning have not worked for the past year or two.
To go back and check to see if my thinking was correct seemed like the next logical step.
ps Wayne, I HATE most services and at at another forum I post regularly with commentary on two well known services to expose them for the liars they are!

[wayne1218]

I don't give 2 shits what his record is savage. You obviously have no clue what is being said if that is yojur response. Many people have bad records. So fuckin what. They know it and anybody that follows them does too without your help in making them look bad. Only an asshole would post the shit you did to him for no reason but to make him look and feel like shit. In your 90 years on this planet you shouldn't need to hear that from me to know it.

[savage1]

I don't give 2 shits what his record is savage. You obviously have no clue what is being said if that is yojur response. Many people have bad records. So fuckin what. They know it and anybody that follows them does too without your help in making them look bad. Only an asshole would post the shit you did to him for no reason but to make him look and feel like shit. In your 90 years on this planet you shouldn't need to hear that from me to know it.

Sorry Wayne-you are wrong.
Anyone who posts picks has a certain obligation to tell folks that his picks have not done well before telling them to blindly play a pick.
You can do all of the namecalling you wish to and look at things in YOUR OWN way, but I choose to do things differently.
You can gloss over someone's record if you like and say no big deal also;on the other hand you openly post your records for all to see-don't you think everyone should do the same or at least say how they have been doing?
The whole point is whether you want to believe it or not, is that I was trying to indicate to sandman that whatever methods he uses to pick games has not worked of late and perhaps he should re-evaluate his criterion.
Oh yes, I almost forgot-cigarette boxes have warnings on them for a reason!

[ToDaClub]

Nobody has an obligation to give their records.