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    ESPN.com news services

    The heat is being turned up on Barry Bonds as his perjury trial approaches.


    Citing a person who has reviewed the evidence in the case, The New York Times reported on Wednesday that authorities detected anabolic steroids in urine samples linked to Bonds that they gathered in their investigation.

    Bonds testified to a federal grand jury in 2003 that he used the "cream" and the "clear" but did not know that they were performance-enhancing drugs. The urine samples could prove the existence of other steroids in his body.

    During that testimony, Bonds was asked if he ever took steroids, and he answered no. The government alleges that Bonds lied under oath. His perjury trial is scheduled to begin March 2.

    Meanwhile, federal authorities have taken another avenue in their pursuit of Bonds.

    Agents raided the home of the mother-in-law of Bonds' personal trainer Greg Anderson.

    Madeleine Gestas is the target of a tax investigation that Anderson's lawyer says is aimed at pressuring the trainer to testify at Bonds' upcoming trial on charges on lying to a grand jury.

    Mark Geragos, a lawyer for Anderson, said he believes the raid Wednesday is in response to his refusal to tell prosecutors whether Anderson would testify.


    The attorney said some 20 FBI and IRS agents showed up at the Redwood City, Calif., home of Madeline Gestas armed with a search warrant and seized miscellaneous documents.

    "Even the mafia spares the women and children," Geragos said.

    Gestas, 60, has been the subject of a tax probe, but Geragos described the raid as part of an ongoing effort by the federal government to intimidate Anderson and coerce him to cooperate in the government's case against Bonds.


    "They trashed the place and took all kinds of stuff," he said. "The execution was illegal and a grotesque example of bullying."

    Arlette Lee, a spokesman for the IRS, acknowledged agents had been at Gestas' home but declined comment on the nature of the activity.

    Last June, the government sent a letter to Nicole Gestas, a local fitness trainer who married Anderson in the summer of 2007, notifying her that she was the target of a federal conspiracy investigation.

    "How much more obvious can they get?" said Paula Canny, an attorney who worked the BALCO case and a close friend of Anderson.

    Geragos said he received a letter on Monday from federal prosecutors wanting to know if Anderson is going to testify in the Bonds trial.

    "They can't demand that. It's sheer bullying," Geragos said.



    Anderson served two terms in federal prison for refusing to appear in front of separate grand juries during the government's investigation of Bonds. Federal prosecutors believe Anderson can testify, among other things, that calendars and diary entries that document steroid use by a "BB" is in fact Bonds.

    Anderson initially served 15 days in prison in July 2006, and then again from Aug. 28, 2006, until Nov. 15, 2007, in a federal correctional institute in Dublin, Calif. He also served three months in federal prison earlier in 2006 after he pleaded guilty in the BALCO steroid scandal.

    Geragos has insisted for some time that Anderson will never testify against Bonds.

    "My client is never going to speak," he told ESPN.com in March of 2007.

    Geragos reiterated that point to The Times, saying, "The government is obsessed with trying to get Greg to testify about Barry, but he never will."



    Geragos said Anderson received a government subpoena last week demanding his testimony at trial. If he refuses to testify, he could be sent to prison again.

    Information from ESPN.com investigative reporters Mike Fish, T.J. Quinn and Mark Fainaru-Wada and The Associated Press was used in this report.

    Report: Barry Bonds used more than 'cream,' 'clear' - ESPN

  • #2
    This is going to hurt his induction to the HOF some day.

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    • #3
      Why is this guy refusing to testify? Is he worried bonds will sue him? Or is he willing to continue to go too Jail for bonds, because he's getting some hush money under the table.

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      • #4
        Everyone already thinks/knows Bonds took steriods, he won't get into the Hall of Fame. How much tax payer money are these guys spending is what I wanna know? People get away with murder, yet more attention is spent on this dog shit. It pisses me off. Baseball was great in the steriod era, probably the best it's ever been in my lifetime, all these assholes knew what was going, and they let it happen, and they got rich. Now they wanna spend our money making sure these guys are caught. We know who did steriods ok, we're not idiots. Now go chase down some murderers instead of Greg Anderson's mother in law. What a joke.
        Last edited by BigWeiner; 01-29-2009, 12:59 PM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by BigWeiner View Post
          Everyone already thinks/knows Bonds took steriods, he won't get into the Hall of Fame. How much tax payer money are these guys spending is what I wanna know? People get away with murder, yet more attention is spent on this dog shit. It pisses me off. Baseball was great in the steriod era, probably the best it's ever been in my lifetime, all these assholes knew what was going, and they let it happen, and they got rich. Now they wanna spend our money making sure these guys are caught. We know who did steriods ok, we're not idiots. Now go chase down some murderers instead of Greg Anderson's mother in law. What a joke.
          What's your opinion on why this guy won't testify?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by BettorsChat View Post
            What's your opinion on why this guy won't testify?
            He must be good "friends" with Bonds, and probably is getting some money under the table as well.

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            • #7
              I'm more interested in Roger Clemens situation

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              • #8
                I'm sure Anderson has dates & times on paper somewhere for everything he gave Bonds. Wouldnt doubt it if the mother-in-law is getting the money funneled through her.

                $28,000 check for 'Home Cleaning'

                $40,000 check for 'Puppy Consultation'
                He who wears diaper knows his shit - Confucius

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by insidethe8thpol View Post
                  I'm sure Anderson has dates & times on paper somewhere for everything he gave Bonds. Wouldnt doubt it if the mother-in-law is getting the money funneled through her.

                  $28,000 check for 'Home Cleaning'

                  $40,000 check for 'Puppy Consultation'
                  Are those quotes true?

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                  • #10
                    i've been watching baseball since 1961, and yes i saw roger maris hit home run #58 at tiger stadium on 9/17/61 off terry fox. he didn't take steroids, nor did he wear all that armor that bonds wore up to the plate. it's time to start calling the high strike at the letters again, even if the hitters can't hit it. if they didn't stop calling it clemens never would have needed steroids, no one could hit his rising fastball, ask the 20+ hitters for seattle and detroit who couldn't touch it. big mac. bonds, palmero all have the numbers as does sosa, but will they see the hall, never. big mac's votes went down this year and he may not get as many next. bonds and clemens could see some prison time, and if they do they will not only "NOT" see the hall, but even the old timers when they vote will deny them. (especially the ones who had too face them). it's time for baseball to make baseball the american past time again and not by trying to have teams score 10+ runs per game. let pitchers pitch high strikes, inside too brush back hitters. i used too love watching gibson and drysdale in the 60's. i watched mark fidrych beat ron guidry 1-0 in 1976 on a first inning home run by ron leflore. one of the best games i ever witnessed, where are the pitching duals. now a good start is 6 innings with 3 or less runs. thats an era of 4.50. please, whats with that stat? i have a lot more too say, but i could take up the whole thread, so i'll give others a chance to post lol.
                    Last edited by detroitdavid; 01-29-2009, 01:56 PM.
                    The difference between genius and stupidity, is that genius has it's limits.

                    Einstien

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by BettorsChat View Post
                      Are those quotes true?

                      No. I'm saying that if Bonds is paying off Anderson not to talk, he could be giving the money to the mother in law under fictitious job services.
                      He who wears diaper knows his shit - Confucius

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                      • #12
                        I really could care less about Clemens or Bonds.

                        I also disagree that Bonds won't get into the Hall of Fame. Don't get me wrong, I can't stand the guy and hope he doesn't, but he gets in. This isn't a Mark McGwire (who will never get in) situation. Bonds wasn't a one trick pony like McGwire. You are talking about a sure fire HOF before his head doubled in size. The defense, the steals, the runs, the HRs, we are talking one of the best ten players (arguably the best ever) to ever play the game. This might impact being a first ballot HOF, but you have to put this guy in.

                        Of course, I feel Rose should be in the HOF as well, and that still hasn't happened.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by detroitdavid View Post
                          i've been watching baseball since 1961, and yes i saw roger maris hit home run #58 at tiger stadium on 9/17/61 off terry fox. he didn't take steroids, nor did he wear all that armor that bonds wore up to the plate. it's time to start calling the high strike at the letters again, even if the hitters can't hit it. if they didn't stop calling it clemens never would have needed steroids, no one could hit his rising fastball, ask the 20+ hitters for seattle and detroit who couldn't touch it. big mac. bonds, palmero all have the numbers as does sosa, but will they see the hall, never. big mac's votes went down this year and he may not get as many next. bonds and clemens could see some prison time, and if they do they will not only "NOT" see the hall, but even the old timers when they vote will deny them. (especially the ones who had too face them). it's time for baseball to make baseball the american past time again and not by trying to have teams score 10+ runs per game. let pitchers pitch high strikes, inside too brush back hitters. i used too love watching gibson and drysdale in the 60's. i watched mark fidrych beat ron guidry 1-0 in 1976 on a first inning home run by ron leflore. one of the best games i ever witnessed, where are the pitching duals. now a good start is 6 innings with 3 or less runs. thats an era of 4.50. please, whats with that stat? i have a lot more too say, but i could take up the whole thread, so i'll give others a chance to post lol.
                          Great post DD.

                          If anyone of those mentioned get in to the Hall, then Pete Rose better be in there.
                          He who wears diaper knows his shit - Confucius

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by harold_bush View Post
                            I really could care less about Clemens or Bonds.

                            I also disagree that Bonds won't get into the Hall of Fame. Don't get me wrong, I can't stand the guy and hope he doesn't, but he gets in. This isn't a Mark McGwire (who will never get in) situation. Bonds wasn't a one trick pony like McGwire. You are talking about a sure fire HOF before his head doubled in size. The defense, the steals, the runs, the HRs, we are talking one of the best ten players (arguably the best ever) to ever play the game. This might impact being a first ballot HOF, but you have to put this guy in.

                            Of course, I feel Rose should be in the HOF as well, and that still hasn't happened.
                            in 7 seasons at pitt bonds averaged 25 hr with ba's of .223, 261, 283, 248,301, 292, & 311. rbi's 48, 59,58,58,114,116,103. 34 errors (5 per season). not exactly hof numbers are they? without steroids would he have had anything close to the numbers he has? i don't think so.
                            The difference between genius and stupidity, is that genius has it's limits.

                            Einstien

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                            • #15
                              Without steriods he would've had 500 homeruns, isn't that HOF worthy? His prime began at the end of those years in Pitt. From 1993-2004 with the Giants were his best year, obviously with the steriods, but still, he would've been better than those years in Pitt.

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