Utah........National Champs?

[KazDog]

I question if they could stand up for 12 weeks in the big conferences.

Did you watch the game? Not being sarcastic here. But if Alabama can 'stand up' for 12 weeks in the SEC, then Utah certainly could have. Utah was physically better than Bama. PERIOD. So my answer is, if Bama can be #1 and 'stand up' in the SEC, then NO doubt Utah can.....Bama was rested and had over month to prepare and they were out played on both sides of the ball. The long season in the SEC is no excuse when they had so long to rest and prepare for this game.

Utah beat all the best teams in their conference, and possibly the longest #1 ranked team in the country. And amazingly, they didn't lose to one of those better teams in their conference. TCU could have handled Bama tonight as well....JMO

Oh....Btw, they also beat Oreg St who beat USC.....

KAZ

[wsdawg]

Kaz- Again I think you are missing the point of my posts. First Bama was missing the possible #1 pick which lead to many of the sacks and the supposed physical dominance. Secondly my point is Utah would not have a month off to prepare for these games in the regular season. By the way I was a Utah backer in the game.

[FRITO]

I would have to disagree it is not about winning the best game they give you at the end of the year but about winning the most games against the best teams throughout the year. And like I said I give them plenty of credit for being the better team tonight but I question if they could stand up for 12 weeks in the big conferences.

I understand your point,
but the discussion/debate about which conference is
(so-called) better than the other one, can go on for eternity.
The only way to prove which team is better, is for them to play.
They did that - the proof is on the scoreboard - Utah is the better team.
It doesn't matter what conference they're from or who they played before.

This debate has been going on for decades - it always leads to nowhere.
It is impossible to say - shoulda coulda woulda - they HAVE TO PLAY to know.

[KazDog]

Kaz- Again I think you are missing the point of my posts. First Bama was missing the possible #1 pick which lead to many of the sacks and the supposed physical dominance. Secondly my point is Utah would not have a month off to prepare for these games in the regular season. By the way I was a Utah backer in the game.

I understood totally what you were saying. But do you get what I'm saying?

They were physically better than Alabama and better on both sides of the ball. PERIOD! Meaning that they would also be physically better on both sides of the ball in the SEC for 12 weeks as you say.

If Bama can do what they did in the SEC, then what possibly makes you think Utah could not? There is absolutely NOTHING that proves to me that Utah was less of a team than Bama. And if anything, they were A LOT better......And I don't buy that one player was the difference. He didn't play defense for Bama.

KAZ

[mavskidd02]

IF Florida beats OU, there should NOT be a split national champion. Florida beat Alabama, just like Utah, and played in a much tougher conference all year, not to mention finishing off the season against OU. With only one loss to an Ole Miss team who is real good.

Utah beat one or two quality opponents and then showed to be very impressive against Bama tonight. But if Florida wins I don't know how anyone can say that you should take part of Florida's title away from them.

If OU wins, fuck it give Utah the whole title.

[FRITO]

My own humble opinion is -
If ANY team goes undefeated - which means they won a bowl game too -
(then they deserve the fuckin title - they EARNED it on the field) U N D E F E A T E D

[especially in this case - they beat the formerly ranked #1 team]

[wsdawg]

Again I would have to disagree with you to say that because one team beat the other on a particular night proves they could do it for 12 weeks in the regular season is ridiculous. There is a reason there are no undefeated teams in the major conferences.

[mavskidd02]

agreed, but not when everyone is playing different quality of opponents. If UF beats Bama (#1 at the time) and a shitload of other tough opponents and only has one loss to boot, how can anyone take the championship away from them??

[KazDog]

Again I would have to disagree with you to say that because one team beat the other on a particular night proves they could do it for 12 weeks in the regular season is ridiculous. There is a reason there are no undefeated teams in the major conferences.

Then we'll just have to disagree. I watched a physically better team tonight and just a better all around team, and that means they would be physically better during the season as well as in this game. If you can't see that, then I can't argue with you.

KAZ

[wsdawg]

The Bama team that Fla played and Utah played is really not comparable. The suspension and the motivation makes a huge difference.

[KazDog]

The Bama team that Fla played and Utah played is really not comparable. The suspension and the motivation makes a huge difference.

Motivation? Your coach makes $7 million a year to have his team prepared and motivated and you're playing in a BCS bowl game. And your team isn't motivated? that's an indictment on your team and possibly your conference. This is a multi-million dollar BCS bowl game and you couldn't get your team motivated with a month to prepare? They were playing an undefeated team. Not buying it....

KAZ

[weazel079]

The Bama team that Fla played and Utah played is really not comparable. The suspension and the motivation makes a huge difference.

Theres no excuse to not be motivated. I mean this is what these guys live for is to play football. And for many it may be the last game of there football careers. They are on the big stage. How can you not be motivated with thousands in the stands and over a million viewers?

[FRITO]

There is a reason there are no undefeated teams in the major conferences.

There has been MANY undefeated teams in the major conferences before.
More often than not - it was the team that won the title - National Champions.
(I counted 89 teams that won the title by going UNDEFEATED)
I don't care what conference they're from - they're UNDEFEATED !!!

In 1997 - Michigan & Nebraska both ended up undefeated -
(so they SPLIT the title) U N D E F E A T E D means something.

College Football National Champions

[wsdawg]

Motivation? Your coach makes $7 million a year to have his team prepared and motivated and you're playing in a BCS bowl game. And your team isn't motivated? that's an indictment on your team and possibly your conference. This is a multi-million dollar BCS bowl game and you couldn't get your team motivated with a month to prepare? They were playing an undefeated team. Not buying it....

KAZ

How much money the coach makes does not do much to motivate 18-21 yr old kids when you are no#1 and lose the championship game for a shot at the national championship. Yes it was an undefeated team but it was Utah. Say what you will but that does not garner much respect. Maybe Saban should have consulted Pete Carrol about making " 7 million a year" and motivating your team for lesser opponents.

[wsdawg]

There has been MANY undefeated teams in the major conferences before.
More often than not - it was the team that won the title - National Champions.
(I counted 89 teams that won the title by going UNDEFEATED)
I don't care what conference they're from - they're UNDEFEATED !!!

In 1997 - Michigan & Nebraska both ended up undefeated -
(so they SPLIT the title) U N D E F E A T E D means something.

College Football National Champions

I'm pretty sure the discussion we were having was about the 2008 season.