Who Will Win the World Series?

[GrandPa]

What does interleague domination have to do with the NL champ v AL champ?

The NBA West dominates the East in the regular season, and it still comes down to the best from each league, in a 7-game series.

And what does All-star game have to do with the two teams in the Series?

I am confused by this discussion.

Starting rotations, ability to score runs, middle relief , bench, and closers seem to be a little more important, but hey, WTF do I know?

[kbsooner21]

What does interleague domination have to do with the NL champ v AL champ?

The NBA West dominates the East in the regular season, and it still comes down to the best from each league, in a 7-game series.

And what does All-star game have to do with the two teams in the Series?

I am confused by this discussion.

Starting rotations, ability to score runs, middle relief , bench, and closers seem to be a little more important, but hey, WTF do I know?

Glad I'm not the only one who is wondering this

[savage1]

Where did I say the Cubs were a lock to win it all? I said I think they have a top staff. I'm not blinded by the Cubs like you are with the Sox. I can see the Angels, ChiSox, Boston, Yankees, Tampa, Minny winning it just as I can see the Cubs, Brewers, Mets, D'Backs, Phillies winning it. To disregard the NL over some meaningless interleague and All Star game stats is not "seperating your love affair from reality."

You can call interleague and all star games and WS results meaningless-I don't-the past is many times indicative of the future in all wakes of life-not just baseball.
Eventually something that hasn't happened will like the Red Sox finally winning a WS after 86 years of waiting.
Can the Cubs do the same-maybe? However, based on the way I evaluate things-considering that they haven't won it in 100 years and couple it with stats that I consider valid- the interleague results, the All Star Game results,the trend in the WS games and just what I see with my own eyes when I watch NL teams play especially against the Al teams(does the 47 game dominance of the AL over the NL this year and dominance in previous years results mean nothing to you?)I cannot rate the Cub's chances or any other NL's team's chances higher than 5th at this time;if you feel differently, then so be it.
ps You can say what you want about the pitching staff about the Cubs, but until/if they prove it in the WS aganst an American League team, I regard them as good pitching in the NL.
Guys like Jeff Suppan have done pretty well in the NL, but the latter stunk in two separate stints with the Red Sox;this has happened with other players also.
Until NL proves in some of the categories I consider important that they can defeat the AL for a few consecutive years,, in my mind they are not equal to them.

[aplous]

When one league dominates another in H2H, it gives the impression that the league that whips ass is better.

Whether it is 100% true or not, who knows.

[GrandPa]

St Louis won 85 games two years ago in the weak NL, and had to wait til the final day of the regular season to get in the playoffs.

Yet somehow they won the whole thing. Without home-field, no less.

Do explain this phenomenon.

[GrandPa]

Once again, goddammit, it is not one league versus the other in the postseason.

It is one champion, who has gotten into the playoffs by either winning their division or as the Wild Card entry, and WON TWO PLAYOFF SERIES, VERSUS the team from the other league that has accomplished the same thing, with the players on THEIR TEAM ONLY.

And wasn't the AFC a better circuit than the NFC last year? And the Western Conference in the NBA?

This may be the dumbest discussion I have ever voluntarily engaged in.

And if the AL wins the Series, it doesn't give any validity to the angle.

I am out.

[screwtape]

who gives a shit.
fuck baseball.

[kbsooner21]

Once again, goddammit, it is not one league versus the other in the postseason.

It is one champion, who has gotten into the playoffs by either winning their division or as the Wild Card entry, and WON TWO PLAYOFF SERIES, VERSUS the team from the other league that has accomplished the same thing, with the players on THEIR TEAM ONLY.

And wasn't the AFC a better circuit than the NFC last year? And the Western Conference in the NBA?

This may be the dumbest discussion I have ever voluntarily engaged in.

And if the AL wins the Series, it doesn't give any validity to the angle.

I am out.

Anytime you are on the other side of Savage, prepare for ignorant logic coming back your way

[savage1]

What does interleague domination have to do with the NL champ v AL champ?

The NBA West dominates the East in the regular season, and it still comes down to the best from each league, in a 7-game series.

And what does All-star game have to do with the two teams in the Series?

I am confused by this discussion.

Starting rotations, ability to score runs, middle relief , bench, and closers seem to be a little more important, but hey, WTF I know?

The NBA West may have dominated the east in regular season, but and most importantly the NBA West didn't dominate the Celtics-remember the three game sweep in San Antonio, Houston and Dallas?
And don't forget the Celtics beat the Lakers soundly twice durign the regular season;thus the 2-1 line favoring of Lakers of Celtics in finals was absurd.
What about last year-Red Sox who have crushed NL teamsd in years past includign 2007 played the Rockies in WS who had won 21 out of 22. do I need remind you of what happened-SWEEP!
By my way of thinking, to dismiss All Star game results, teams like Cub's inability to win a WS in 100 years, recent interleague and WS results as meaningless is about the same as going to the track and not even looking at the racing form because after all it is "meaningless" also and just playing one longhshot after another in every race.

[savage1]

Anytime you are on the other side of Savage, prepare for ignorant logic coming back your way

Ignorant logic is better than NO LOGIC, because that is what your posts contain-or is unrealistic hopes based on your heart and not your mind!

[savage1]

St Louis won 85 games two years ago in the weak NL, and had to wait til the final day of the regular season to get in the playoffs.

Yet somehow they won the whole thing. Without home-field, no less.

Do explain this phenomenon.

Exceptions do happen, but to simply ignore what has happened in the past makes no sense to me.

[kbsooner21]

Ignorant logic is better than NO LOGIC, because that is what your posts contain-or is unrealistic hopes based on your heart and not your mind!

Don't be pissed at me cause you can't see through your Sox colored glasses

[GrandPa]

Simply put, the hottest team at the end usually wins. Look at the high frequency of Wild Card teams getting it done in baseball.

Colorado the best team in the NL last year? I'm not sure about that, but they were so hot at the end they made it to the WS.

Any discussion about WS pix in July, before the trade deadline , is just passing the time anyway.

And I am not sure where the horse track longshot reference came from or for whom it was intended, but I doubt there are too many in here that can read the Form better than me.

[kbsooner21]

Ignorant logic is better than NO LOGIC, because that is what your posts contain-or is unrealistic hopes based on your heart and not your mind!

Where do I say the Cubs are a lock to win it all? Please point that out!

[GrandPa]

Exceptions do happen, but to simply ignore what has happened in the past makes no sense to me.

So why are you ignoring the NL winning 3 of the last 7 Series, despite AL dominance?

I really gotta go find a better debate counterpart.