Turn -110 to +131

[Chado1]

I know the history between Stanford and Oregon and there was no chance tonights game would have been different. A 29 point Stanford win proved that. Did I play New England on the MoneyLine because they had won 18 in a row. See for yourself.

36) BET ID=237700026
Straight Wager 02/03/08 17:20 ET
bet to win Result: Wager Won
Giants(NewYork) 17
Patriots(NewEngland) 14 02/03/08(18:35 ET)
Giants(NewYork) +13 (-120)
Bought 0.5 point(s)

37) BET ID=237698780
Straight Wager 02/03/08 17:18 ET
bet to win Result: Wager Won
Giants vs Patriots - Adjusted Line and Total
Giants 17
Patriots 14 02/03/08(18:40 ET)
Giants +7.5 (+150)

38) BET ID=237697549
Straight Wager 02/03/08 17:16 ET
bet to win Result: Wager Won
Giants vs Patriots - Adjusted Line and Total
Giants 17
Patriots 14 02/03/08(18:40 ET)
Giants +3.5 (+220)

39) BET ID=237695744
Straight Wager 02/03/08 17:14 ET
bet to win Result: Wager Won
Giants(NewYork) 17
Patriots(NewEngland) 14 02/03/08(18:35 ET)
Giants(NewYork) +370

40) BET ID=237670159
Straight Wager 02/03/08 16:30 ET
bet to win Result: Wager Won
1Giants 1stHalf 3
1Patriots 1stHalf 7 02/03/08(18:35 ET)
1Giants +7 (-105)

41) BET ID=237668017
Straight Wager 02/03/08 16:26 ET
bet Result: Wager Won
zzzMavericks4Q 16
zzzPistons4Q 24 02/03/08(23:59 ET)
zzzPistons4Q +2.5

42) BET ID=237662282
Straight Wager 02/03/08 16:13 ET
bet to win Result: Wager Won
Giants1Q 3
Patriots1Q 0 02/03/08(18:30 ET)
Giants1Q +3 (+110)

43) BET ID=237650732
Straight Wager 02/03/08 15:46 ET
bet to win Result: Wager Won
Giants(NewYork) 17
Patriots(NewEngland) 14 02/03/08(18:35 ET)
Giants(NewYork) +12

44) BET ID=237639033
Straight Wager 02/03/08 15:14 ET
bet to win Result: Wager Won
Giants(NewYork) 17
Patriots(NewEngland) 14 02/03/08(18:35 ET)
Giants(NewYork) +12

OMG...not the point at all....

[thesandman]

Dan asked

PS: DO you know where the hell Rip is??? I miss his fades he used to have. Those were big money.

You can play my fades. I just don't have near as many because I'm very conservative when posting fade plays. I only post fades in college baskets and after tonights St. Louis winner, my fade plays are 17-10.

There is a thread at the drugstore forum in their promotion area where some guys were bad mouthing Rip. That's all I know.

[LVJimmy]

Sandman I fully respect this as I think Stanford will win...But this is just as risky as betting the Patriots moneyline.... Your going to throw in a -500 moneyline into a parlay it is not the smartest move. That is just my opinion and I fully respect your reasoning, but honestly in college ball stats are garbage. Hope stanford wins for you....

PS: DO you know where the hell Rip is??? I miss his fades he used to have. Those were big money.

I talk to him all the time on email and at another forum...he doesn't do fades anymore.

[thesandman]

Chado seems upset

OMG...not the point at all....

Then what is the point. I was 99% certain Stanford would win the game and bet it accordingly.

Motor City was asking ".Im not gonna say anything but where are all the post gamers who said the Pats ML was a stupid bet....."

Just because I don't want to be a jerk and tell people they were stupid betting the Pats ML, dosen't mean I didn't think it was a stupid bet. My Super Bowl bets should show what I thought about New England ML bets.

[MtrCtyPimp]

Chado seems upset

Then what is the point. I was 99% certain Stanford would win the game and bet it accordingly.

Motor City was asking ".Im not gonna say anything but where are all the post gamers who said the Pats ML was a stupid bet....."

Just because I don't want to be a jerk and tell people they were stupid betting the Pats ML, dosen't mean I didn't think it was a stupid bet. My Super Bowl bets should show what I thought about New England ML bets.

A -500 ML is -500 ML....I dont give a rats ass if you are betting baskets, foots or cricket racing...this one hit so congrats but shit happens

PEACE

[LVJimmy]

A -500 ML is -500 ML....I dont give a rats ass if you are betting baskets, foots or cricket racing...this one hit so congrats but shit happens

PEACE

yea, but he didn't bet it by itself so I don't see the big risk

[ham]

Wow those look like my bets but I had the pats...bet the cards tonight but didnt post it..not that anyone cares anyway...good call bud

[thesandman]

Jimmy understands. Would I have bet $500 to win $100? Never. Even if there were not such things as parleys and the only way to play Stanford on the MoneyLine would be to lay -500, I would not have made that bet. The only risk I took was the risk of not winning an ATS play and losing the money bet on the ATS play.

For example. Instead of playing Clemson -2 for say 110 to win 100, I bet 100 to win 131 on Clemson -2 and Stanford M/L. If Stanford would have lost the game, I would lose $100 instead of winning $91, the amount a straight $100 play on Clemson would have won.

I do something similar with bases. It's no secret I don't like paying juice. If I want to play say a -130 favorite in bases to win 100, I'll risk 100 and parley the -130 fav with a -200 favorite, which pays almost double what the -130 fav would pay.

[LVJimmy]

Maybe Pimp was saying it's a bad idea if you load up a bunch of plays with a -500 favorite cuz then you're laying all your eggs in one basket...not sure

[sammyda7]

good call!

[SustainDan]

Its the point of any team can win on any given day....your putting a bet in that has a pretty good chance to basically win a couple more bucks. When that one bet that wins you a couple more bucks will win 9 out of 10 times.. but that one time it doesnt your screwed

[ELJUGO]

Good hit

[thesandman]

Dan said

Its the point of any team can win on any given day....your putting a bet in that has a pretty good chance to basically win a couple more bucks. When that one bet that wins you a couple more bucks will win 9 out of 10 times.. but that one time it doesnt your screwed

I WROTE THIS A COUPLE HOURS AGO BUT COULD NOT CONNECT TO THIS SITE TO POST THEN. DIDN'T WANT TO DRAG THIS OUT, BUT SINCE I HAD ALREADY WRITTEN THIS, I'M POSTING IT NOW.

Lets say what I did wins only 9 out of 10 times. With just one unit bets, I would win an extra $33 nine times for plus $297. The one time I lost, would cost me the $100 bet plus the $91 my ATS play would have won. +297 minus $191. Net profit, $106 per unit. I can live with that. I can go days now, even weeks, before finding a play as sure as tonights Stanford M/L play.

Bottom line. To each his own. If I was taking dumb risks all the time, we probally wouldn't be having this discussion because I wouldn't have any money left to bet.

[MtrCtyPimp]

I dont care if a -500 is parlayed with 20 teams.....you are still betting a -500 fav.

I do not want to get of track here and make it look like I am sweating Sandy because I am not and I love what he does here with his baseball plays and his fade plays and I for one like him.

2nd I do not give a flying fuck if someone bets a -20000 fav with their own money and posts it because its just that....THEIR OWN MONEY.

I just do not want people flip flopping on this issue one saying betting a huge ML is stupid and the next saying that its not.

For those of you that arent 100% certain how a parlay works let me explain because what Sandy did was bet $100 to win 91 on Clemson and in a parlay that becomes a $191 ML Stanford bet at -500 to win another 40 bucks which gives him $131 net

A parlay is 2 bets strung together for an amount.....in no way does a parlay reduce juice...IT DOES NOT.

Do you think if I post a straight bet at +91 instead of -110 that I am dodging juice?

What I am arguing here is the mathematics of this....not calling anyone silly or stupid and let me make sure I get perfectly clear before anyone says I am sweating Sandy.

Now finally that was a great call because in the end we are here to produce winners and thats what this thread did......also you only need to hit a -500 fav 83% of the time to break even....so even if u miss 1 in 7 or 1 in 8 you are still making out

PEACE

[MtrCtyPimp]

yea, but he didn't bet it by itself so I don't see the big risk

My response right above this shouldve quoted this

PEACE