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  • Originally posted by TwoTonTony
    wayne,

    you talk like he is some bum and wins and losses are black and white.....

    in this sport it is not always that way.....
    No, i'm a guy who is disappointed to see him finish his career as a guy who loses more than he wins. To me, it is tarnishing my memories of him.

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    • Originally posted by wayne1218
      I just did a rewind on DVR and this was what they showed ...


      De La Hoya's last 5 fights

      2007 Loss to Mayweather
      2006 Win over Mayorga
      2004 Loss to Hopkins
      2004 Win over Sturm
      2003 Loss to Mosely


      They were simply talking about his last 5 fights where he went a wonderful (2-3). Greatness ... Not (imo).

      wow...you are right...oscar sucks he should listen and retire.....i said he fought vargas at end of 03 by a month....


      you my friend do not want to consider the level of competition.....hopkins was the best in the world and 35 pounds heavier.....floyd is the best in the world.......And shane always has his number.......

      he could have padded it by fighting gatti's or vernon forrest, but he fought the best.....and he lost close decisions......except hopkins....you are the only guy i have heard shit on oscar....wow....tough standards are set when you are a pats fan i suppose

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      • Originally posted by wayne1218
        I just did a rewind on DVR and this was what they showed ...


        De La Hoya's last 5 fights

        2007 Loss to Mayweather
        2006 Win over Mayorga
        2004 Loss to Hopkins
        2004 Win over Sturm
        2003 Loss to Mosely


        They were simply talking about his last 5 fights where he went a wonderful (2-3). Greatness ... Not (imo).
        Those 2 wins are not against great, let alone good fighters

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        • if you consider who he fought it should not tarnish a thing....especially hopkins and floyd.......shane he should have beaten...but he has his number.....i know this sport is humbling and matchups make fights...but anyways we are all entitled to our opinions......believe it or not i am not even an oscar fan, but i try to give each great fighter his due......

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          • anyone hear about the comments by floyd about the UFC???

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            • Originally posted by GOLDENGREEK
              Those 2 wins are not against great, let alone good fighters
              in boxing you fight people who have belts or are contenders....

              sturm was a tough tough nut and europes champion


              mayorga was a phenom albeit shortlived who destoryed vernon forrest twice who destroyed shane mosley twice and actually held a belt so i respectfully disagree

              sturm b fighter
              mayorga - B+ fighter...
              Last edited by TwoTonTony; 05-06-2007, 01:28 AM.

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              • and did anyone see espn interview floyd's drunk ass dad? too funny !!!

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                • Originally posted by rcmcd
                  and did anyone see espn interview floyd's drunk ass dad? too funny !!!
                  i think he is just dumb and punchy

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                  • well, i will leave it at oscar was a great champion and warrior who never ducked anyone.......but then again i would fight for 25 million too.....

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                    • what do ya think of the lidell jackson ufc fight t?

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                      • Originally posted by rcmcd
                        what do ya think of the lidell jackson ufc fight t?
                        chuck knocks him out in my opinion

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                        • think so also ,but with all the hype around chuck now this is the one guy chuck cannot standup with

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                          • i believe their first fight was in pride. right??

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                            • Originally posted by rcmcd
                              think so also ,but with all the hype around chuck now this is the one guy chuck cannot standup with

                              i think he can actually.......chuck was young and inexperienced.....he looked great in pride but real rusty in his first UFC fight......

                              with 2 heavy handed guys anything can happen, but i think chuck is on his game and has no weaknesses anymore

                              chuck has power going backward which is rare

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                              • true tony that was like what 4 yrs ago? stakes too high for me to lay it down but i hope chuck takes his ass out! my earlier question was about merywhether. he has came out talking shit about the ufc did you hear what he said?

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