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  • #91
    Originally posted by MtrCtyPimp
    Sad and Tragic to say the least.

    From what I understand they say the first two shootings have been classified as domestic and thats why they thought it was over and done with.

    FWIW I dislike George Bush but I think his appearance on TV and his offering for help was absolutely necessary.....this is an American tragedy and he is the leader.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by MtrCtyPimp
      Sad and Tragic to say the least.

      From what I understand they say the first two shootings have been classified as domestic and thats why they thought it was over and done with.

      FWIW I dislike George Bush but I think his appearance on TV and his offering for help was absolutely necessary.....this is an American tragedy and he is the leader.

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      Absolutely right MCP...some will find fault with our Prez no matter what he does or says. And, truthfully, I understand why.
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      • #93
        Hindsight is 20/20
        And it originally was a domestic....

        BUT You still have an armed suspect roaming an area. Murder / suicides or police assisted suicides are not an uncommon occurrence in police work when dealing with domestic murders. They should have, at least!!!!!, the very least, had a greater presence and got the information out that there was a gunman on the loose on campus. I'll bet many would have missed class!!!!
        A lock down of a big campus would not have been impossible. You can always add manpower to the scene as they became available.
        There is something in police work called mutual aide. That empowers other local or neighboring agencies to assist in the area needed with full police powers.
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        • #94
          Originally posted by Art Vandelay
          Now 22 dead. It was an Asian American male in his 20's with two 9MM handguns. He went from one end of the campus to the other over a few hours. Not the best response time - any security on that campus?
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          • #95
            Originally posted by rwall
            Hindsight is 20/20
            And it originally was a domestic....

            BUT You still have an armed suspect roaming an area. Murder / suicides or police assisted suicides are not an uncommon occurrence in police work when dealing with domestic murders. They should have, at least!!!!!, the very least, had a greater presence and got the information out that there was a gunman on the loose on campus. I'll bet many would have missed class!!!!
            A lock down of a big campus would not have been impossible. You can always add manpower to the scene as they became available.
            There is something in police work called mutual aide. That empowers other local or neighboring agencies to assist in the area needed with full police powers.

            this is what i was saying. at the very least they should have locked down campus and had officers @ every bldg regardless of what they "thought" lots of ppl will lose jobs over this and va tech is gonna get sued broke just watch. And they should cause this was a disgrace.
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            • #96
              They are now saying in a live news conference that they think it may have been 2 different shooters in the two incidents and NOT the same guy.

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              • #97
                I have told myself i wasnt going to comment on this shit.. But I just cant help it.. Ive sat here watching the video clip from the students cell phone and was pisses me off the most is you hear gunshots going off from the dudes gun that is taking innocent young men and women's lives and what are the fucking police doing? Just standing the fuck around looking as if they were waiting on this fucker to stop shooting people and come outside so they can apprehend him.. Fuck that shit do what the hell your trained to do and go inside and take this psycho straight the fuck out.. So damn sad that parents cant send their children to school to get a education and have to worry about some shit like this happening.. Also where were the police in the 2 hour span from the first two people being killed to the next 29?? Just doesnt make any sense to me what so ever..

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                • #98
                  There is NO EXCUSE or wait and see here. When 2 people are murdered in a dorm, that fucken campus needs to be in lock down ASAP and all classes cancelled and such. Every building on the campus should have been guarded within 1 hour of that 1st shooting. Please don't make excuses for the police when 2 people are murdered and you have NO CLUE where the gunman is. How the fuck do you not lock that campus down right away. Whether they ever admit it or not, they fucked up big time by assuming the shooter left the area. I can't believe how stupid that is.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by wayne1218
                    There is NO EXCUSE or wait and see here. When 2 people are murdered in a dorm, that fucken campus needs to be in lock down ASAP and all classes cancelled and such. Every building on the campus should have been guarded within 1 hour of that 1st shooting. Please don't make excuses for the police when 2 people are murdered and you have NO CLUE where the gunman is. How the fuck do you not lock that campus down right away. Whether they ever admit it or not, they fucked up big time by assuming the shooter left the area. I can't believe how stupid that is.
                    Thats what ive been saying since i first saw this shit.. They fucked up and never will admit it.. They better thank to lord up above that im not a parent of ANY child up there thats a damn fact.. My wife has a friend (Co-Worker) and her husband was a teacher in that exact building where the shooting occured 6 years ago

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                    • Originally posted by wayne1218
                      They are now saying in a live news conference that they think it may have been 2 different shooters in the two incidents and NOT the same guy.
                      They have to say this, otherwise they were wrong and will be sued by the parents.
                      They were wrong but to try and send 36,000 emails out, late to warn people who probably were sleeping in and then rush to school, was stupid. They should have had Faculty and anyone else they could find to send announcements over the air, radio, dorm intercom systems and any way else.
                      The one kid that was interviewed on CNN said he called the school to say that he wanted to know if classes were still on and they told him, yes, but be careful....
                      Careful!!!!!!!
                      That person should have been shot for saying that over the phone..

                      Everyone one of those kids are going to be scared shit-less to continue with school.
                      Last edited by ChuckLazar; 04-16-2007, 08:29 PM.

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                      • prayers out to all those that died & their families !

                        just read all about , insane !

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                        • This is just terrible i really do feel for the families that have lost loved ones here.Its a sad day when this stuff happens.I really dont fault the School as much as the police force or lack thereof.It was not the schools decision to stop the investigation after the 2 were shot.Had to be an extremely hard call to make by law enforcement.wOULD HATE TO BE IN THERE SHOES.When Brian Nichols shot the judge here in Atlanta last year the road in front of the courthouse and surrunding streets were blocked and shut down for 2 days.You would never guess the response our local media gave to law enforcement for not re opening the streets after he was caught.I fell bad for the families but i also feel very bad for the guy that made that decision had to be a hard one.
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                          • growing up in va beach hearing this news just floored me. i had a feeling someone in my family wouldve known someone hurt and come to find out my neice was a cheerleader with one of the girls that passed. i have a 3yr old girl and cant even comprehend the pain these parents must feel. all we can do is pray for healing and if there is a site where we can give $ to these families lets do it.

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                            • shooter was a student here via a student visa. Unreal
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                              • Originally posted by 10DimeBry
                                shooter was a student here via a student visa. Unreal

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