Knock,knock,whos There ? The Bookmaker Trying To Take Your Money On Monday !!!

[rcmcd]

well put luke. im with you on this one buddy. gl and merry christmas

[frankb03]

Frank,lets just put it this way.Sportsbooks dont lose money.Let me repeat,Sportbooks dont lose money at the end of the year.They need Miami today to be a winner.Real simple.

Like Joe Public losing, Vegas does NOT win every game they "NEED". Sportbooks do lose. They needed many games last season. They lost last year in the NFL.

What Vegas needs has no bearing on the outcome of tonights game. If it was that easy we'd be rich betting what Vegas needs?

Did Vegas need Pittsburgh yesterday? Isn't that who you bet? It's not as easy as you make it sound.

[frankb03]

Gl on your Jets play.

I never said I was betting the Jets. You asked for facts. I disputed your opinion with facts.

[rocko]

i personaly THINK THE OVER IN THIS JETS GAME IS THE WAY TO GO HANDS DOWN BUT WTF DO I KNOW,,,,,,,,I ALSO KNOW THE JETS ARE 5-0ATS VS. MIAMI 3/5 WENT OVER JUST READ THAT WELL THATS ALL I HAVE GLLLLLLL LUKE
GET-R-DON PEACE MERRY HOHO

[frankb03]

We'll agree to disagree. We'll let the members reading this thread decide for themselves what's fact and what's opinion.

gl with Miami.

[CoolhandLuke]

Like Joe Public losing, Vegas does NOT win every game they "NEED". Sportbooks do lose. They needed many games last season. They lost last year in the NFL.

WRONG,Parlays alone make them on winner 12-13 times a year.

What Vegas needs has no bearing on the outcome of tonights game. If it was that easy we'd be rich betting what Vegas needs?

In the long run for the season,they would have won more then they lose.I only use this a added tool to capping a game.


Did Vegas need Pittsburgh yesterday? Isn't that who you bet? It's not as easy as you make it sound.

Yes,I did bet Pitts.I lost,but I have a thing called money management.At the end of this season I will be a winner as expected.

[Pitt37]

Great points both of you.

Luke I agree that Miami is the play.

[jt4545]

Luke, I'm With You, My Sons Dog, His Name Is Coolhandluke And He Is As Smart As They GET, I'm Going With Miami, Merry Christmas

[frankb03]

Yes,I did bet Pitts.I lost,but I have a thing called money management.At the end of this season I will be a winner as expected.

I meant no disrespect with your loss from yesterday. You've done well with your posted plays. The point I was trying to prove was Vegas doesn't win every game they "need". It's not as easy as playing what Vegas needs.

Since you have "outs of books all over the place" I have a few questions

1. What percentage of plays does Joe Public win?

2. What percentage of plays does Sharp Money win?

3. Do you think it's possible Vegas releases false info? Saying they "NEED" Miami when they actually need NY to cover. Enticing Miami money. The line has moved from -1 to -2.5.

[CoolhandLuke]

I will say one thing,Frank and I were having a debate and it was a very nice one.There were not name calling or signs of anger from either one of us.My hat is off to you Frank,and others that spoke their peace.

Merry Christmas to all.

[Tinman1960]

Week 16 road teams in the same traveling situation as the Jets:

20-15 ATS

All road teams in this spot:
252-231 ATS

The Dolphins have no advantage over the Jets regarding the Jets travel schedule.



Do you really think one loser has any bearing on the outcome of this game? I'm certain there are LOSERS saying the same thing about Miami.



Then why has the line moved from Miami -1 to -2.5? Joe Public is on Miami.



We agree here.



Teams are never as good as they play. Just like getting shutout last week. They are never as bad as they look.

GOOD POINT FRANK HERE IS SOME MORE

MIAMI -2.5 NY Jets

While it’s been a heck of a year overall, going back to preseason, one team that IS going crazy is the Jets. But we have to stick to the tried and true and go against a team that keeps outplaying their stats. While the more accurate ratings have the Jets doing much better than the deceptive rankings, even ratings can’t explain why the Jets are 8-6 straight up. They get .2 yards less per play than their opponents normally allow and on defense they give up .2 more.
In three of the Jets last six wins they’ve had fewer net yards.

[CoolhandLuke]

I meant no disrespect with your loss from yesterday. You've done well with your posted plays. The point I was trying to prove was Vegas doesn't win every game they "need". It's not as easy as playing what Vegas needs.

Since you have "outs of books all over the place" I have a few questions

1. What percentage of plays does Joe Public win?

2. What percentage of plays does Sharp Money win?

3. Do you think it's possible Vegas releases false info? Saying they "NEED" Miami when they actually need NY to cover. Enticing Miami money. The line has moved from -1 to -2.5.

1 35-50 % The Juice prevents Joe from being a winner.

2 50-60 % Good capping and info make him a winner.

3 It all depends on who you know.Yes and no would be the
answer.I have seen sharp money drive a line up,only to be
bet the other way at game time.It happens.

[frankb03]

I will say one thing,Frank and I were having a debate and it was a very nice one.There were not name calling or signs of anger from either one of us.My hat is off to you Frank,and others that spoke their peace.

Merry Christmas to all.

Merry Christmas to you and your family.

[spreadman]

ATS TrendsN.Y. Jets
Jets are 5-1 ATS in their last 6 games after accumulating more than 250 yards passing in their previous game.
Jets are 8-2 ATS vs. a team with a losing record.
Jets are 4-1 ATS in their last 5 games as an underdog of 0.5-3.0.
Jets are 39-12 ATS in their last 51 games after allowing less than 90 yards rushing in their previous game.
Jets are 6-2 ATS in their last 8 games as a road underdog.
Jets are 6-2 ATS in their last 8 road games.
Jets are 4-10 ATS in their last 14 games following a ATS win.
Jets are 15-38-3 ATS in their last 56 games after accumulating less than 90 yards rushing in their previous game.
Jets are 2-6-1 ATS in their last 9 games as a road underdog of 0.5-3.0.
Jets are 1-5 ATS in their last 6 games in Week 16.


Miami
Dolphins are 4-0 ATS in their last 4 games following a SU loss of more than 14 points.
Dolphins are 4-1 ATS in their last 5 games on Grass.
Dolphins are 5-2 ATS vs. a team with a winning record.
Dolphins are 5-2 ATS in their last 7 games overall.
Dolphins are 2-5 ATS in their last 7 games following a S.U. loss.
Dolphins are 8-21 ATS in their last 29 home games.
Dolphins are 2-6 ATS in their last 8 games following a ATS loss.
Dolphins are 4-14 ATS in their last 18 games as a favorite.
Dolphins are 6-21 ATS in their last 27 vs. AFC East.
Dolphins are 2-8 ATS in their last 10 vs. AFC.
Dolphins are 3-14 ATS in their last 17 games as a home favorite.
Dolphins are 1-5 ATS in their last 6 night games.
Dolphins are 0-4 ATS in their last 4 games after accumulating less than 250 total yards in their previous game.


OU TrendsN.Y. Jets
Over is 7-1 in Jets last 8 vs. AFC East.
Over is 9-2 in Jets last 11 games following a S.U. win.
Under is 4-1 in Jets last 5 games as an underdog.
Over is 4-1 in Jets last 5 games in December.
Over is 4-1-1 in Jets last 6 games as an underdog of 0.5-3.0.
Over is 4-1 in Jets last 5 night games.
Under is 4-1 in Jets last 5 games after accumulating more than 350 total yards in their previous game.
Under is 4-1 in Jets last 5 games after allowing less than 90 yards rushing in their previous game.
Over is 8-2 in Jets last 10 games following a ATS win.
Over is 11-3 in Jets last 14 games on Grass.
Over is 10-3 in Jets last 13 vs. AFC.
Over is 8-3-1 in Jets last 12 vs. a team with a losing record.
Under is 5-2 in Jets last 7 games overall.


Miami
Under is 4-0 in Dolphins last 4 games in December.
Under is 6-0 in Dolphins last 6 games in Week 16.
Under is 4-0 in Dolphins last 4 games overall.
Under is 4-0 in Dolphins last 4 vs. AFC.
Under is 4-1 in Dolphins last 5 vs. AFC East.
Under is 4-1 in Dolphins last 5 vs. a team with a winning record.
Over is 4-1 in Dolphins last 5 night games.
Over is 11-3 in Dolphins last 14 Monday games.
Under is 21-7-1 in Dolphins last 29 games as a home favorite of 0.5-3.0.
Under is 6-2 in Dolphins last 8 home games.
Under is 6-2 in Dolphins last 8 games as a favorite.
Under is 20-7 in Dolphins last 27 home games vs. a team with a winning road record.
Under is 28-10-1 in Dolphins last 39 games after accumulating less than 150 yards passing in their previous game.
Under is 39-14 in Dolphins last 53 games after accumulating less than 250 total yards in their previous game.
Over is 10-4 in Dolphins last 14 games after scoring less than 15 points in their previous game.
Under is 10-4 in Dolphins last 14 games following a ATS loss.


Head to HeadJets are 7-1 ATS in their last 8 meetings in Miami.
Jets are 17-4-1 ATS in their last 22 meetings.
Favorite is 4-1 ATS in their last 5 meetings.

[Winton]

Cool you and Frank are class acts! I do think some times Vegas has a good read on a game they move the line in the opposite direction to keep people off balance and get more money on a side! I think the money will be on the Jets today! 10 million people live in New York you know a few of them is taking the Jets! Good Luck to the both of you! I haven't decided if I'm betting the game or not! Merry Christmas!