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  • #16
    Originally posted by Spearit
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    NFL Public Road Teams

    Tracking NFL teams with 70%+ public backing at 16-17 ATS this season. No big deal so far, but when you get to 75% they are 9-12 ATS.

    Still not impressed? How about this? When you break it down to home and road teams,

    NFL road teams with 75%+ public backing are 3-10 ATS this season. When you push that to 80% they are 1-4 ATS and you would have won every single week just betting against these blind.

    Possibly a re-adjustment from the books to last year when NFL road favorites covered at 63.2% for the season?
    I have a problem with these trends. There's not enough long term history. IMO like the 70% public number, long term it'll end up at 50% At 3-10 a small losing streak quickly brings this 'system' back to 50%

    What's these trends over the last few years, 5 years, 10 years? Then you'll get my attention.

    gl

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    • #17
      Thanx Frank for your comments.
      I post to monitor and do not mean to state that these trends can not reverse- we have certainly seen enuff of that happening. Seems like we catch on a little late or is it -thats all.

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      You will get this again from our Trend crew- but I thought I would throw it in at this time.

      Sunday, October 22nd

      San Diego at Kansas City, 1:00 EST
      San Diego: 7-0 Under away vs. division opponents
      Kansas City: 18-7 ATS off a road loss by 14+ points

      Jacksonville at Houston, 1:00 EST
      Jacksonville: 12-3 Under off BB games scoring 25+ points
      Houston: 1-5 ATS off a road loss by 21+ points

      New England at Buffalo, 1:00 EST
      New England: 11-2 ATS after allowing 14 points or less
      Buffalo: 5-0 Under off a loss as a favorite

      Pittsburgh at Atlanta, 1:00 EST
      Pittsburgh: 7-0 ATS away off a win by 14+ points
      Atlanta: 5-15 ATS off a home game

      Green Bay at Miami, 1:00 EST
      Green Bay: 22-10 Over off BB losses
      Miami: 1-8 ATS as a home favorite

      Philadelphia at Tampa Bay, 1:00 EST
      Philadelphia: 4-0 ATS off BB Overs
      Tampa Bay: 9-2 Under at home off a win

      Detroit at NY Jets, 1:00 EST
      Detroit: 4-13 ATS away off a win as an underdog
      NY Jets: 8-0 Over off a division game

      Carolina at Cincinnati, 1:00 EST
      Carolina: 12-3 ATS as an underdog
      Cincinnati: 2-8 ATS in October

      Denver at Cleveland, 4:05 EST
      Denver: 6-0 ATS off a divison win
      Cleveland: 9-2 Under at home off a road game

      Washington at Indianapolis, 4:15 EST
      Washington: 14-4 Under off an ATS loss
      Indianapolis: 1-4 ATS vs. Washington

      Minnesota at Seattle, 4:15 EST
      Minnesota: 12-4 ATS vs. conference opponents
      Seattle: 3-11 ATS off a division game

      Arizona at Oakland, 4:15 EST
      Arizona: 9-1 Over in October
      Oakland: 0-6 ATS as a home underdog



      Monday, October 23rd

      NY Giants at Dallas, 8:30 EST ESPN
      NY Giants: 35-16 Under off a win by 10+ points
      Dallas: 2-11 ATS off a win by 28+ points
      "The range of what we think and do is limited by what we fail to notice.

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      • #18
        According to the data, I shall bet against all of them. Let see what will happen. I believe I shall win with 90% chance. Thanks for pick those out. GL

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        • #19
          Originally posted by fatchat
          According to the data, I shall bet against all of them. Let see what will happen. I believe I shall win with 90% chance. Thanks for pick those out. GL
          I hope you read where you might wait and see the popular people opinion and a possible better line closer to game time and then bet.
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          NFL Power Rankings - Week 7

          Chicago's comeback victory on Monday night saved us a lot of work here at the NFL Power Rankings. We'd already decided on this week's order late on Sunday night - surely the Bears would pound the Arizona Cardinals on MNF, and keep their top spot on the list. However, plans for some serious cut-and-paste work started to be developed at halftime on Monday, and as the fourth quarter got underway we were trying to decide how far Chicago would fall down the rankings, and how far Arizona would move up the list. But, needless to say, all such plans were scrapped.

          So the Bears stay at No. 1 in the rankings this week, with the Indianapolis Colts at No. 2, and the New England Patriots, Seattle Seahawks, and San Diego Chargers rounding out the Top 5. The Denver Broncos, New Orleans Saints, and New York Giants all solidified spots in the Top 10 with their victories on the weekend, while the Philadelphia Eagles and the Cincinnati Bengals barely retained their Top-10 berths. And the Cardinals? They should have been punished more for their collapse, but with the teams around them so weak they stayed at spot No. 24.

          Here is the Week 7 edition of the NFL Power Rankings.

          01 - Chicago Bears 6-0 SU, 4-2 ATS (Last Week 01)
          It wasn't pretty, but they got the win on Monday - thanks to touchdowns off two fumble returns and a punt return.

          02 - Indianapolis Colts 5-0 SU, 3-2 ATS (Last Week 02)
          Come back from a bye this week to play host to the Redskins. Can improve record to 6-0 with a Week 7 victory.

          03 - New England Patriots 4-1 SU, 3-2 ATS (Last Week 03)
          Coming off a bye as well, but they'll be on the road versus the Bills. Need a Colts stumble to get top AFC mark.

          04 - Seattle Seahawks 4-1 SU, 2-3 ATS (Last Week 05)
          Stormed back with 16 points in the fourth quarter Sunday afternoon to get past the Rams and move into first place.

          05 - San Diego Chargers 4-1 SU, 4-1 ATS (Last Week 07)
          The 49ers weren't much of a challenge for Philip Rivers and company, as the Chargers romped to an easy 48-19 win.

          06 - Denver Broncos 4-1 SU, 2-3 ATS (Last Week 08)
          Is the Denver offense really this bad? Managed to score only 13 points in their victory over the Raiders last week.

          07 - New Orleans Saints 5-1 SU, 5-1 ATS (Last Week 12)
          Scored 10 unanswered points in the fourth quarter to beat the Eagles on Sunday, and improve their mark to 5-1.

          08 - New York Giants 3-2 SU, 3-2 ATS (Last Week 10)
          It wasn't looking good for the Giants midway through the third quarter Sunday, but Eli Manning led them to a win.

          09 - Philadelphia Eagles 4-2 SU, 4-2 ATS (Last Week 04)
          Had a chance to burst the Saints' bubble on the weekend, but couldn't get the job done. Play at Tampa this week.

          10 - Cincinnati Bengals 3-2 SU, 3-2 ATS (Last Week 06)
          There's really no excuse for the Bengals losing to the previously winless Bucs on the weekend. Have Carolina next.

          11 - Jacksonville Jaguars 3-2 SU, 3-2 ATS (Last Week 11)
          Return from a bye to play the Texans on the road on Sunday. Yet another team looking for the Colts to go cold.

          12 - Carolina Panthers 4-2 SU, 2-4 ATS (Last Week 13)
          Got a big win over the Ravens in Baltimore on Sunday, with Steve Smith having a huge game (189 yards, one TD).

          13 - Baltimore Ravens 4-2 SU, 3-3 ATS (Last Week 09)
          Steve McNair was knocked out of their loss to Carolina early on Sunday, but Kyle Boller almost got them the win.

          14 - St. Louis Rams 4-2 SU, 5-1 ATS (Last Week 14)
          Torry Holt caught eight passes for 154 yards and three touchdowns Sunday, but the Seahawks still won the game.

          15 - Pittsburgh Steelers 2-3 SU, 2-3 ATS (Last Week 15)
          Ran roughshod over the Chiefs on Sunday, going up 31-0 at halftime and then cruising to a 45-7 win at Heinz Field.

          16 - Dallas Cowboys 3-2 SU, 3-2 ATS (Last Week 19)
          A game against the Texans was just what Terrell Owens needed: five catches for 45 yards, with three touchdowns.

          17 - Atlanta Falcons 3-2 SU, 3-2 ATS (Last Week 16)
          Their defense wasn't able to shut down the Giants on the weekend, and now they're two back in the NFC South.

          18 - Minnesota Vikings 3-2 SU, 4-1 ATS (Last Week 18)
          They're the team in the middle in the NFC South - well behind the Bears, well ahead of both the Packers and Lions.

          19 - New York Jets 3-3 SU, 4-2 ATS (Last Week 23)
          Almost blew a lead on Sunday against the Dolphins, but they held on and boosted their record back up to .500.

          20 - Kansas City Chiefs 2-3 SU, 2-3 ATS (Last Week 17)
          How bad were they against the Steelers? Larry Johnson ran for just 26 yards, and he was their rushing leader.

          21 - Washington Redskins 2-4 SU, 2-4 ATS (Last Week 20)
          Rock bottom for the Redskins? After losing to the Titans at home on Sunday, Washington isn't looking so good.

          22 - San Francisco 49ers 2-4 SU, 3-3 ATS (Last Week 21)
          Had no chance against the Chargers on Sunday, but at least they're still a game up on the Cardinals in the division.

          23 - Buffalo Bills 2-4 SU, 3-3 ATS (Last Week 22)
          Got down early against the Lions on Sunday, and a late rally failed to get them a win. In tough against the Patriots.

          24 - Arizona Cardinals 1-5 SU, 2-4 ATS (Last Week 24)
          We had a lot of nice things to say about Matt Leinart in this space, but his team's meltdown cost him that press.

          25 - Miami Dolphins 1-5 SU, 0-6 ATS (Last Week 25)
          That stuff about Joey Harrington being the answer? Never mind; one touchdown pass but two INTs versus the Jets.

          26 - Green Bay Packers 1-4 SU, 1-4 ATS (Last Week 26)
          Coming off a bye week and have only one win so far this season. Can anything interesting be said in this spot?

          27 - Cleveland Browns 1-4 SU, 2-3 ATS (Last Week 27)
          Coming off a bye week and have only one win so far this season. Can anything interesting be said in this spot?

          28 - Tampa Bay Buccaneers 1-4 SU, 3-2 ATS (Last Week 29)
          Bruce Gradkowski tossed a touchdown pass in the last minute of play to get the Bucs that win over the Bengals.

          29 - Detroit Lions 1-5 SU, 2-4 ATS (Last Week 30)
          Jon Kitna threw for 278 yards and a touchdown to carry the Lions past the Bills, and Kevin Jones ran for 127 yards.

          30 - Tennessee Titans 1-5 SU, 3-3 ATS (Last Week 31)
          Travis Henry ran for 178 yards and a touchdown against the Redskins on Sunday in the team's first win of 2006.

          31 - Houston Texans 1-4 SU, 1-4 ATS (Last Week 28)
          Not a good game for David Carr against the Cowboys: 15-of-27 for 128 yards passing, no TDs, two interceptions.

          32 - Oakland Raiders 0-5 SU, 1-4 ATS (Last Week 32)
          All the other winless teams picked up a win on the weekend, meaning the Raiders are clearly the team for this spot.
          "The range of what we think and do is limited by what we fail to notice.

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          • #20
            Thanks for your advice. You are very good in this forum!

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            • #21
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              NFL Public Road Teams

              Tracking NFL teams with 70%+ public backing at 16-17 ATS this season. No big deal so far, but when you get to 75% they are 9-12 ATS.

              Still not impressed? How about this? When you break it down to home and road teams,

              NFL road teams with 75%+ public backing are 3-10 ATS this season. When you push that to 80% they are 1-4 ATS and you would have won every single week just betting against these blind.

              Possibly a re-adjustment from the books to last year when NFL road favorites covered at 63.2% for the season?

              7 Teams still have 80+% on Sunday morning
              Which of these dogs will bite? Will the trend play on or reverse?
              The play is on the home dog. Team on right.

              SDG 86% vs KC
              JAC 81% vs HOU
              NWE 91% vs BUF
              PIT 84% VS ATL
              PHL 90% VS TB
              NYJ 83% VS DET
              ARZ 87% VS OAK
              Last edited by Spearit; 10-22-2006, 12:00 PM.
              "The range of what we think and do is limited by what we fail to notice.

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              • #22
                Thanks for the info!!!! No teasers todays?
                Goodluck today buddy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                "Sometimes it's not what you play, but what you don't play."

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                • #23
                  Thanx Keawe- but no teasers for me today.
                  Try your stongest plays from who you have faith in. Best of luck.
                  "The range of what we think and do is limited by what we fail to notice.

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                  • #24
                    You to buddy!!!!!!!
                    just saw your 10*, think I'll throw that on a teaser with some other totals.
                    Have a good one!!!!!!!!!
                    "Sometimes it's not what you play, but what you don't play."

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                    • #25
                      thanks for all the insights and info Spear----kapt


                      Don't make me go Cajun on your Ass!

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                      • #26
                        im on this, thanks for the info

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                        • #27
                          Doc...You always have the best info.......Just like a doctor....Needs definitive clinical data!!!!:re
                          d:

                          I appreciate it!!

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                          • #28
                            Thanx fatchat, Keawe, Kapt, Slippery and Tony
                            Update
                            SDG 86% vs KC-----------------Pending (Tied)
                            JAC 81% vs HOU-----------------Win
                            NWE 91% vs BUF-----------------Loss
                            PIT 84% VS ATL----------------Pending (Tied)
                            PHL 90% VS TB-------------------Win
                            NYJ 83% VS DET------------------Loss
                            ARZ 87% VS OAK
                            "The range of what we think and do is limited by what we fail to notice.

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                            • #29
                              Update
                              SDG 86% vs KC------------------Win
                              JAC 81% vs HOU-----------------Win
                              NWE 91% vs BUF-----------------Loss
                              PIT 84% VS ATL------------------Win
                              PHL 90% VS TB-------------------Win
                              NYJ 83% VS DET------------------Loss
                              ARZ 87% VS OAK

                              Oakland up 17-0
                              Last edited by Spearit; 10-22-2006, 05:16 PM.
                              "The range of what we think and do is limited by what we fail to notice.

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                              • #30
                                5-2 Day on this system. I made money- but I tell ya it was not easy to bet on these teams. Vegas knows this! NFL road teams with 75%+ public backing are now 5-15 ATS this season. When you push that to 80% they are 3-9 ATS and you would have won every single week just betting against these blind.

                                Update- Play the team on the right!!!
                                SDG 86% vs KC------------------Win
                                JAC 81% vs HOU-----------------Win
                                ARZ 87% VS OAK-----------------Win
                                PIT 84% VS ATL------------------Win
                                PHL 90% VS TB-------------------Win
                                NWE 91% vs BUF-----------------Loss
                                NYJ 83% VS DET------------------Loss
                                Last edited by Spearit; 10-23-2006, 04:14 PM.
                                "The range of what we think and do is limited by what we fail to notice.

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