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    Is Ryan Howard juiced?

    Don't blame me for wondering. It might not be fair, but it isn't my (or your) fault for asking before plunging headlong into another home run chase.

    Blame baseball, blame society, blame a summer that has given us Floyd Landis, Justin Gatlin, Marion Jones, Barry Bonds and a host of other drug cheats who can make a cynic out of anyone.

    The Philadelphia Phillies first baseman knocked home runs 50, 51 and 52 out of the park Sunday. So here on Labor Day he is within striking distance of Roger Maris' single-season home run record of 61, which means the attention, and the debate, will become sharper now.

    There is no reason, no whisper, no allegation that suggests Howard is cheating. In fact, there is plenty of talk that he is clean. But how can you blindly trust anyone anymore?

    And by the way, yes, it's Maris' record. Or, if you want to get technical, the162-game record for players free from performance-enhancing drugs, which any intelligent, rational person agrees disqualifies Mark McGwire, Sammy Sosa and Bonds, who all hit more.

    But then again, who's willing to guarantee Ryan Howard is clean, too?

    "With Howard, what he hits is legit, and everything about it is because he's totally dedicated to his hard work," Philadelphia manager Charlie Manuel told the Bucks County Times Friday.

    It would be nice to take Manuel at his word, but haven't we heard these coach testimonials before?

    All of this provides the backdrop for what could be the most bizarre home run chase in baseball history – and that's saying something.

    The 26-year-old out of Southwest Missouri State is a likable star, and during a season when baseball finally began testing for some performance-enhancing drugs, a fresh faced and honest home run king would be perfect.

    It would be like a bookend to the steroid era.

    But only if you want to believe the steroid era is really over.

    The reality is that while Major League Baseball is doing some testing, it isn't doing enough. It still isn't getting after human growth hormones, which the spring arrest of journeyman pitcher Jason Grimsley showed is the new drug of choice. And, as history has taught us, there is always a new concoction we don't know about.

    Testing alone isn't enough of a deterrent to stop the natural motivation to cheat. There are still millions to be made and glory to be had by cutting corners. Human nature hasn't changed.

    No reasonable person can believe baseball is out of the drug business, which means no reasonable person can believe the steroid era is over. The truth is that it will probably never end.

    This brings us to Ryan Howard. At 6-foot-4 and 252 pounds, he has a booming, beautiful swing. He very well may be a natural. After all, he won the National League Rookie of the Year award last season despite playing just 88 games (he hit 22 home runs). He has already hit more homers in his second full season than anyone, ever.

    So does that make him easier to believe than a proven slugger such as Albert Pujols or David Ortiz sitting on 52? Or is everyone under suspicion these days?

    It would be a joy to watch Howard club 62, renewing the condemnation for McGwire, Sosa and Bonds. But even so, there is a spoiling effect here.

    First, what does MLB do? The people and the press will celebrate it, but Bud Selig still recognizes Bonds' 73-home run charade in 2001. If Howard hits No. 62, do you hold a ceremony for what is, officially, the seventh-best single season total?

    Meanwhile, the specter of suspicion means people probably won't get swept up in the excitement the way they did back in the summer of 1998, when McGwire, Sosa and their chemists originally passed Maris.

    It is said that those two saved baseball after the 1994 strike that canceled the World Series. While their exploits didn't hurt, and certainly motivated the national media to focus on the sport, baseball was always coming back. The game itself is too compelling to wilt away.

    More important to baseball were the late 1990s dynasty of the New York Yankees, which returned baseball to supremacy in influential Manhattan, and the Camden Yard-inspired stadium building boom, which made parks family destinations again. But the most important thing, as Salon.com's King Kaufman has pointed out, was the rise of fantasy baseball which the Internet made increasingly simpler and more popular, generating millions of die-hard fanatics.

    McGwire and Sosa (and later Bonds) were quick fixes, shots across the sky. They couldn't, and won't, stand the test of time.

    Whether Ryan Howard eventually can is a more important question for baseball. Virtually everyone would love to see this kid provide a September to remember – a chase for history powered by nothing more than Wheaties.

    But baseball's decades of inaction and a long, hot summer of sporting scandal has to make you pause.

    Ten dingers from the record and with 25 games to play, you want to believe, you really do. But you have to ask: Is this Ryan Howard guy for real?

  • #2
    I would wonder more about Pujols than about Howard, frankly...

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    • #3
      Originally posted by heleanth
      I would wonder more about Pujols than about Howard, frankly...
      Agreed. I think a high percentage of MLB players are using HGH

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      • #4
        You know Frank it is sad but that is the first thing I thought ... This kid has to be on the juice ... but would someone just coming into his own take a risk and ruin his career ... or maybe he says ... damn it, if I do not I will not have a career .,,, but so many athletes are using something now a days ... and I do think baseball has to be more concerned with others ...

        All I know is that I wish I was a Philly fan right now .. I can say I am a baseball fan so i will enjoy watching him in September ...

        Thanks for the great thread Frankie .. this is interesting ...

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        • #5
          Joe, I agree. It's very sad for baseball purists. Any play that comes into their own is going to be questioned. Baseball needs to TOTALLY clean up their sport.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by frankb03
            Joe, I agree. It's very sad for baseball purists. Any play that comes into their own is going to be questioned. Baseball needs to TOTALLY clean up their sport.
            Frank I saw him on reply yesterday .. just to look at him what you think?? ... and that is sad to judge someone without knowing ... Matter of fact I was watching it with a friend and they said immediately, hei s on roids ... Frank, you know years ago you would have said ... "What are you talking about?" ...
            Now you say, "yeah, Most likely he is" ... Terrible for baseball

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            • #7
              To me, every player now is guilty until proven innocent. It is terriable to think that way but after watching player after player get linked to HGH, it is the truth.

              I have heard Ryan Howard interviewed a million times and he seems like a nice guy but so did Big Mac, Sosa, Rafael, Giambino and so on.

              Looking at his minor league stats I would say he probably isn't. Howard hit a lot of homeruns every year in the minor leagues. Howard batted .299 with 110 HRs and 389 RBIs over 5 minor league seasons. Plus he is the first player after the whole steriod scandal that has come up as a power hitter. He plays in a very homerun friendly park and we all know how bad the NL pitching is. Maybe it is wishful thinking but I think he might be the first legit power hitter in awhile.

              Great thread Frank! I love these kind of debates because no one can be right or wrong. Unless someone gets busted. But even then they will say they didn't know it was juice. Sad but true.

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              • #8
                Awful for baseball that everything is always questioned because of roids.

                However, I saw this kid almost on a daily basis throughout his minor legue career and he was a MAN amongst boys at Reading. He was actually a bit heavier in the minors but crushed the ball every at bat.

                I do not believe that he is juicing but maybe that is because of the fan I am of him.
                Am I the longest tenured BC member?

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                • #9
                  Why is baseball also the only sport that is questioned? Just look at the cover of ESPN the magazine. You can tell me TO is not on HGH? The guy is yoked and is a WR. Think about that for a minute. No one every attacks the NFL but there are more players there on HGH than in baseball. Somehow though, that goes unnoticed.

                  A little side note on the ESPN the Mag is that above the ESPN headline is a subheadline that says " The Guru of Growth Hormones". Found that kind of funny as underneath it is a picture of TO with muscle on top of muscle.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Tony Vegas
                    Why is baseball also the only sport that is questioned? Just look at the cover of ESPN the magazine. You can tell me TO is not on HGH? The guy is yoked and is a WR. Think about that for a minute. No one every attacks the NFL but there are more players there on HGH than in baseball. Somehow though, that goes unnoticed.

                    A little side note on the ESPN the Mag is that above the ESPN headline is a subheadline that says " The Guru of Growth Hormones". Found that kind of funny as underneath it is a picture of TO with muscle on top of muscle.
                    TV, you are 100% correct. They were discussing this on ESPN's Sports Reporters yesterday. Other, sports get a free ride. There was an article online last week that golfers are using HGH.

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                    • #11
                      I thing Dale Jr. is on HGH too. Did you see him after the race last night?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Tony Vegas
                        To me, every player now is guilty until proven innocent. It is terriable to think that way but after watching player after player get linked to HGH, it is the truth.

                        I have heard Ryan Howard interviewed a million times and he seems like a nice guy but so did Big Mac, Sosa, Rafael, Giambino and so on.

                        Looking at his minor league stats I would say he probably isn't. Howard hit a lot of homeruns every year in the minor leagues. Howard batted .299 with 110 HRs and 389 RBIs over 5 minor league seasons. Plus he is the first player after the whole steriod scandal that has come up as a power hitter. He plays in a very homerun friendly park and we all know how bad the NL pitching is. Maybe it is wishful thinking but I think he might be the first legit power hitter in awhile.

                        Great thread Frank! I love these kind of debates because no one can be right or wrong. Unless someone gets busted. But even then they will say they didn't know it was juice. Sad but true.
                        TV if you watched Big Mac and Sosa through the years it was easy to see it .. Sosa was a scrawny little guy and Mac was half his size when he came up .. No one could change himself like that during an off-season .. I always said they were on it .. and then Sosa gets caught with the cork .. Right then and there baseball knew he was a cheater and a liar and he should have been tested immediately ... it would have been so good for baseball instead of just slapping him on the wrist .. what did he say?? the bat boy handed him the wrong bat .. it was his warm up bat .. anyone who has played baseball knows you warm up with a heavier bat ... he was out in left field with a hockey stick ... the lying cheater .. the threat for testing comes out and now he is out of baseball ..

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                        • #13
                          I used to love BigMac until the i'm not here to talk about the past comments. He has been hiding and refusing to talk since he left and i think he is a scumbag for doing so .....

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                          • #14
                            Joe,

                            Sosa was tiny when with the CWS & Rangers. He BLEW UP with the Cubs and became tiny again with the O's!

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                            • #15
                              I think Phil Helmuth is on steroids BIG TIME too.

                              I was watching the poker championships a couple weeks ago and someone went all in. He called and had a "Full House" to win it. That isn't something i can see w/out questioning. He was on something to get that .....

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