Ryan's dope: Are Howard's homers the real deal?

[Tony Vegas]

TV if you watched Big Mac and Sosa through the years it was easy to see it .. Sosa was a scrawny little guy and Mac was half his size when he came up .. No one could change himself like that during an off-season .. I always said they were on it .. and then Sosa gets caught with the cork .. Right then and there baseball knew he was a cheater and a liar and he should have been tested immediately ... it would have been so good for baseball instead of just slapping him on the wrist .. what did he say?? the bat boy handed him the wrong bat .. it was his warm up bat .. anyone who has played baseball knows you warm up with a heavier bat ... he was out in left field with a hockey stick ... the lying cheater .. the threat for testing comes out and now he is out of baseball ..

I compelely disagree. Hindsight is 20/20. Maybe you yourself thought they were on it but most people never said anything like that. Everyone was so happy baseball was finally important again after the 94 strike that they completely ignored the fact that these two guys looked like they had blown up muscles. I know I am guilty of that. Baseball traded their purity for popularity in the late 90s. deal with the devil.

[frankb03]

No one every attacks the NFL but there are more players there on HGH than in baseball. Somehow though, that goes unnoticed.

Another reason the NFL gets a free ride is because the players have always been big. It's hard to realize players getting bigger under all their equipment.

[Spark]

I compelely disagree. Hindsight is 20/20. Maybe you yourself thought they were on it but most people never said anything like that. Everyone was so happy baseball was finally important again after the 94 strike that they completely ignored the fact that these two guys looked like they had blown up muscles. I know I am guilty of that. Baseball traded their purity for popularity in the late 90s. deal with the devil.

Damn I must be lost here ... your telling me that only a few noticed that these guys were pumped up with juice and if they did know it was OK with them because of the 94 strike?? .. It may have been ignored by baseball but it certainly was not ignored by the fans ... It made money for the owners and that is the only thing that counts with them .. I am talking from a fans point of view .. the owners are just worried about filling the seats ...

[frankb03]

Damn I must be lost here ... your telling me that only a few noticed that these guys were pumped up with juice and if they did know it was OK with them because of the 94 strike?? .. It may have been ignored by baseball but it certainly was not ignored by the fans ... It made money for the owners and that is the only thing that counts with them .. I am talking from a fans point of view .. the owners are just worried about filling the seats ...

The owners are business men. They don't give a rats ass about the players. History has proven they never have.

[Tony Vegas]

Damn I must be lost here ... your telling me that only a few noticed that these guys were pumped up with juice and if they did know it was OK with them because of the 94 strike?? .. It may have been ignored by baseball but it certainly was not ignored by the fans ... It made money for the owners and that is the only thing that counts with them .. I am talking from a fans point of view .. the owners are just worried about filling the seats ...

maybe it was because i was younger but i don't remember any of my friends or the media saying a word about it.

[frankb03]

maybe it was because i was younger but i don't remember any of my friends or the media saying a word about it.

The media often spoke of McGwire's mysteries beverage.

[Tony Vegas]

The media often spoke of McGwire's mysteries beverage.

i don't remember that. i do remember the andro but i could have went to GNC and bought it.

i still think the majority of the nation wanted Big Mac to break that record. juice or no juice.

[wayne1218]

It all started for McGwire when a reporter saw creatine in his locker .......

[frankb03]

i still think the majority of the nation wanted Big Mac to break that record. juice or no juice.

I know I did. Now I have ZERO respect for Big Mac.

[wayne1218]

i don't remember that. i do remember the andro but i could have went to GNC and bought it.

i still think the majority of the nation wanted Big Mac to break that record. juice or no juice.

I think it's cause most fans that watch today never saw Ruth or Aaron play. They wanted someone they really knew and watched to top that leader board!

[Spark]

Yeah Wayne ,... it was called Andro or something like that wasn't it?? Pls correct me if I am wrong ,.. maybe in '96 or '97

[rented mule]

maybe it was because i was younger but i don't remember any of my friends or the media saying a word about it.

What gave it away for me was when they "found" the Andro in McGwire's locker. I got seriously into working out in my late 20's and I learned all about supplements (over the counter and anabolic).

To me, the andro was a plant by McGwire so that no one would think he was on steroids. There is no way an over the counter supplement (particularly andro, which has never really been proven to have that type of results) could have given McGwire the extent of anabolic growth that he had.

[wayne1218]

Yeah Wayne ,... it was called Andro or something like that wasn't it?? Pls correct me if I am wrong ,.. maybe in '96 or '97

I really think it was 1st called Creatine and he blew it off as just a GNC store product but it started to lead to many other questions ..........

[BigMike]

If Ryan Howard is on the juice then I have bigger tits then Dime Bag. The guy has a body like Babe Ruth. Looks to still have his baby fat.

[Three Jack]

It's a shame that in this day and age, we are now forced to question the production of athletes and question whether they are 'legit' or not.