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  • #31
    Originally posted by DAREALDEAL
    cheech, i bet you would have loved getting him.......like tmac was bashing his ass all of last year, and now he's in love with him
    I'm a Knick fan. I think they'd be better without Marbury. As a Met fan I always thought they'd be better without Strawberry. Some guys bring too much negativity to a team.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by DAREALDEAL
      only time they were losing was when he was off the field?
      actually thats not really correct, I seem to remember getting to 3 NFC championships w/o him, the super bowl w/o him in the lineup and we started losing when mcnabb went down.
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      • #33
        Originally posted by vondie
        actually thats not really correct, I seem to remember getting to 3 NFC championships w/o him, the super bowl w/o him in the lineup and we started losing when mcnabb went down.

        mcnabb cant win the big one like payton......he got sick during the superbowl



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        • #34
          Originally posted by DAREALDEAL
          only time they were losing was when he was off the field?
          That's not true. They were successful before they acquired TO. They lost last year for a few reason. McNabb was hurt. The TO controversy was a distraction for the team. And of course losing TO mid-season.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by CheechB03
            I'm a Knick fan. I think they'd be better without Marbury. As a Met fan I always thought they'd be better without Strawberry. Some guys bring too much negativity to a team.
            you dont have to be a knicks fan to know that ...marbury is the highest paid rucker park player in the league...maybe he can join the and 1 tour

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            • #36
              Originally posted by DAREALDEAL
              mcnabb cant win the big one like payton......he got sick during the superbowl



              Terrell Owens T to the O

              IMO McNabb is an above average NFL QB. However, he's much better than the guys that replaced him.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by CheechB03
                IMO McNabb is an above average NFL QB. However, he's much better than the guys that replaced him.
                just above avg huh? I think he was that way in his 2-3 year when he thought it was a bad thing to run...trying not to become a "running QB" but now that he uses his legs in certain spots, and makes good decisions I put him Top 5....where do you have him ranked?
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by vondie
                  just above avg huh? I think he was that way in his 2-3 year when he thought it was a bad thing to run...trying not to become a "running QB" but now that he uses his legs in certain spots, and makes good decisions I put him Top 5....where do you have him ranked?
                  No way does McNabb make my top-5. Not even top-10

                  Brady
                  Delhomme
                  Favre
                  Green
                  Hasselbeck
                  Manning
                  Manning (yes I'd take a young Eli over an aging McNabb)
                  Palmer
                  Big Ben
                  Vick

                  Are all QB's I'd take before McNabb. Toss in Vince Young's potential at this point of each of their careers.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by CheechB03
                    No way does McNabb make my top-5. Not even top-10

                    Brady
                    Delhomme
                    Favre
                    Green
                    Hasselbeck
                    Manning
                    Manning (yes I'd take a young Eli over an aging McNabb)
                    Palmer
                    Big Ben
                    Vick

                    Are all QB's I'd take before McNabb. Toss in Vince Young's potential at this point of each of their careers.
                    that's incredable. you say an aging mcnabb but then put favre over top of him. I'm not really sure how you can consider mcnabb aging to beging with....he doesn't even turn 30 till november. that list is both absurd and hilarious to me. I give you brady, manning, big ben, maybe delhomme, palmer if i'm feeling generous. Green? are you kidding? I give hasselback love but i would still take mcnabb over him, vick almost disqualifies your list.
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by vondie
                      that's incredable. you say an aging mcnabb but then put favre over top of him. I'm not really sure how you can consider mcnabb aging to beging with....he doesn't even turn 30 till november. that list is both absurd and hilarious to me. I give you brady, manning, big ben, maybe delhomme, palmer if i'm feeling generous. Green? are you kidding? I give hasselback love but i would still take mcnabb over him, vick almost disqualifies your list.
                      To be honest. I thought McNabb was older than 30. It seems he's been in the league for 20 years. lol

                      The one thing I agree with TO. If the Eagles had Favre they would have won a SB or two.

                      Trent Green has better career stats.

                      What's absurb is your choice of McNabb over Palmer. Palmer will arguable be the best QB over the next few years.

                      In addition to Vince Young I left Matt Leinart off my potential list.

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                      • #41
                        T.O.is a PUNK!

                        How many SB Rings does he own???

                        The BEST in the NBA (Jordan) has them. The BEST in the NHL (Gretzky) has plenty. The arguably BEST QB in football (Montana) has them. The Best in Baseball (could be any of many) have them.

                        You CAN'T discount what the value being a "TEAM" player is.

                        There is a REASON why Barry Bonds & T.O. own a combined ZERO rings. Most of their teammates HATE them and they think they are above the rest of the world!

                        If you think you are or want to be the BEST WR to ever play the game than look back at Jerry Rice and his career on and off the field! He would learn something if he did! Playing in S.F. it shouldn't have been hard to figure out but Terrell is just too good to care!
                        Last edited by wayne1218; 08-07-2006, 05:42 PM.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by vondie
                          vick almost disqualifies your list.
                          I'm not a Vick fan. He's got huge potential.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by CheechB03
                            To be honest. I thought McNabb was older than 30. It seems he's been in the league for 20 years. lol

                            The one thing I agree with TO. If the Eagles had Favre they would have won a SB or two.

                            Trent Green has better career stats.

                            What's absurb is your choice of McNabb over Palmer. Palmer will arguable be the best QB over the next few years.

                            In addition to Vince Young I left Matt Leinart off my potential list.
                            I say name all the WR's, RB's, TE's and Offensive lineman that are Hall of Fame or even better, Pro Bowl players Brady had at his dispersal during those 3 Super Bowls in 4 years?


                            Oh that's right, there are NONE!

                            Call me a homer all you want but that man did more with less over any other QB ever to win multiple SB's. No Rice or Davis or Irvin or Emmitt ... NOT much!

                            The Guy is as smart as i've ever seen and i put him up there with the likes of Montana with his field smarts and decision making!
                            Last edited by wayne1218; 08-07-2006, 05:43 PM.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by CheechB03
                              To be honest. I thought McNabb was older than 30. It seems he's been in the league for 20 years. lol

                              The one thing I agree with TO. If the Eagles had Favre they would have won a SB or two.

                              Trent Green has better career stats.

                              What's absurb is your choice of McNabb over Palmer. Palmer will arguable be the best QB over the next few years.

                              In addition to Vince Young I left Matt Leinart off my potential list.

                              If you are talking potential....that is a whole different story....maybe I put brady quinn at the top of my list cause one day he will be great. Among active QB's right now, mcnabb is at least top 7. Trent green sits in KC with a great running game and vermiels offense. I'd have great stats too. Just like kurt warner in that system. what's he done since he hasn't been with vermeil...I am not saying they are not good, but that also does not qualify them as great.
                              1 = $25

                              MLB Posted (as of 4/15) - 20-11 +21.86

                              God have mercy on the man who doubts what he's sure of

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by vondie
                                actually thats not really correct, I seem to remember getting to 3 NFC championships w/o him, the super bowl w/o him in the lineup and we started losing when mcnabb went down.

                                YEAH YOU GOT TO THE SUPERBOWL WITHOUT HIM IN THE LINEUP. I GUESS THE 6 OR 7 GAMES HE WON DURING THE SEASON DIDNT MATTER. JUST LIKE CULPEPPER WAS BETTER AFTER MOSS. YOU MAY NOT LIKE T.O BECAUSE HIS ANTICS BUT HE clearly WAS THE REASON THE WENT TO THE SUPERBOWL THAT YEAR. ATTITUDE, ON THE FIELD PLAY AND EXCITEMENT. THE ONLY MEANINGUL GAMES YOU WON LAST YEAR WAS WITH HIM. GUESS WHAT, WITH THAT CORE OF RECIVERS YOU HAVE THIS YEAR YOUR STILL GOING NOWHERE.

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