MEMO TO savage1

[savage1]

I will say that savage's point about Wells coming back - if he can stay healthy - could be a very big factor, since he would be more rested. Also, the Tigers and A's are very bad against LHP, and that could be an advantage.
Lester is on the road to being good, but after 7 starts you can't assume he is going to be very good in the postseason.
Schilling we know comes up big, but I just think the Tigers rotation is a lot deeper, and their bullpen is clearly better.

I don't think you can honestly say the bullpen is better if it is comes down to the ninth inning. One would have to choose Papelbon over Todd Jones, no?

[Tomorrows Paper]

I don't think you can honestly say the bullpen is better if it is comes down to the ninth inning. One would have to choose Papelbon over Todd Jones, no?

In a heartbeat. But, I would say the Tigers have a stronger overall pen. The Red Sox don't have anyone like Zumaya, who should probably be the closer.

[MDENgame]

please dont tell me red sox fans are backing on david wells to contribute.
he is done. the first game he threw this year i watched vs. toronto and he had nothing in the tank, age does catch up with you at some point, he was throwing 82 mph fastballs, he got shelled.. and when he comes back this time the shelling will continue.
where was the experience factor when the lost to the white sox last yr, they had no playoff exp.
the playoff exp. is BS

[Tomorrows Paper]

please dont tell me red sox fans are backing on david wells to contribute.
he is done. the first game he threw this year i watched vs. toronto and he had nothing in the tank, age does catch up with you at some point, he was throwing 82 mph fastballs, he got shelled.. and when he comes back this time the shelling will continue.
where was the experience factor when the lost to the white sox last yr, they had no playoff exp.
the playoff exp. is BS

I believe Wells was the lone starter to pitch well in that series, i could be wrong. I think he got the loss because of 4 unearned runs in Game 2. i actually think he could help again this season if he can get healthy.

[Three Jack]

[QUOTE=savage1]I don't think you can honestly say the bullpen is better if it is comes down to the ninth inning. One would have to choose Papelbon over Todd Jones, no?[/QUOT

IMO, Papelbon is better than Jones but the Tigers BP as a whole is better than the Sox. This kid Zumaya is going to be a stud....

[savage1]

[QUOTE=Three Jack]

I don't think you can honestly say the bullpen is better if it is comes down to the ninth inning. One would have to choose Papelbon over Todd Jones, no?[/QUOT

IMO, Papelbon is better than Jones but the Tigers BP as a whole is better than the Sox. This kid Zumaya is going to be a stud....

I agree and that is why I qualified it to the closer.

[savage1]

In a heartbeat. But, I would say the Tigers have a stronger overall pen. The Red Sox don't have anyone like Zumaya, who should probably be the closer.

As I said in response to someone else, I agree.
ps I am not counting on Wells for anything and actually think Sox would be better off without him;I see no reason to believe in view of his injuries, age and performances so far, he is anything but washed up.

[TwoTonTony]

please dont tell me red sox fans are backing on david wells to contribute.
he is done. the first game he threw this year i watched vs. toronto and he had nothing in the tank, age does catch up with you at some point, he was throwing 82 mph fastballs, he got shelled.. and when he comes back this time the shelling will continue.
where was the experience factor when the lost to the white sox last yr, they had no playoff exp.
the playoff exp. is BS

i am telling you that david wells will make a difference...He got shelled 1 game..He has always been a slow starter.....His 2nd game he was pitching a GEM...and then he got hit freakishly on the knee.....This guy has a rubber arm.....he does not need an 94 mph fastball....that has never been his forte.....For you to make this assumption on 1 start is ridiculous.....Look at the full body of his work...he is not the david wells of old, but if he is our 5th starter it is better than what we have....period....

[Tomorrows Paper]

^^^^^^^^
That's what I meant as well. No one is going to ask him to be the ace of their staff, but he can definitely help more than Snyder.

[Tinman1960]

I copied and pasted it along with the convo I had with 3Jack about me thinking Todd Jones was a better closer than weak ass Billy Wagner and sent a email to Tood Jones himself.. He said he would print it out and show it to his team and make the Tigers and me look smart for knowing the real answer to the question!!

the yankees beat the white sox 2 times with there 3rd stringers so what dose that mean

[savage1]

i am telling you that david wells will make a difference...He got shelled 1 game..He has always been a slow starter.....His 2nd game he was pitching a GEM...and then he got hit freakishly on the knee.....This guy has a rubber arm.....he does not need an 94 mph fastball....that has never been his forte.....For you to make this assumption on 1 start is ridiculous.....Look at the full body of his work...he is not the david wells of old, but if he is our 5th starter it is better than what we have....period....

I am still skeptical of his ability to contribute much at this point.
I don't think you can disregard the injuries and age factor as much as you can win Schilling;with him I don't think it will be a gradual thing-either he has something left in the tank or he does not;I lean toward the latter and hope of course I am wrong.

[TwoTonTony]

i think wells will contribute....i am not wishful thinking either......I have always thought he was one of those guys that does not have to be in shape....He never has been....He also has a rubber arm and is not a power pitcher a la schilling or clemens, so i do not believe there will be much dropoff....He has been a PITCHER for awhile now and still has some filthy breaking pitches....From what i hear he is almost ready to go and has had good stuff....The other thing i like about him he is a competitor (not a rah rah schilling type), but a guy who has never shied away from the bg stage and the bigger the game...the bigger the performance....Am i convinced he will be what he was...>No....you can not be sure....But he is a great option at the 5th spot...At least it is not an automatic L, like when snyder, johnson or whoever the hell else we throw out there....Not only that, we end up having to destroy our bullpen when these guys pitch....All i am saying is i would put my money on him.....