It seem like every closer is in doubt when you bring them in the game..you come in to pitch one inning a game and blow it, Papelbon, jenks, ray, and rivera seem clutch in most instances yet most other closers are in doubt. I honestly dont get it...is it nerves?? if it is they shouldnt be there anyways
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How many closers have gone an entire season without blowing a save or two? Mariano, even in his best years, blew 3-5 saves each year.Three Jack's Record http://www.bettorschat.com/forums/sh...10#post1323910
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The closer is the most overrated role/position in baseball. It's great to have one, but you can get along just as well with a solid bullpen. Consistency is good, but there are not many as good as Rivera, Papelbon, Jenks, Hoffman, etc. (The exceptions that make the rule.) What is the matter with having a closer pitch two or three innings. Before Rivera went mainstream, he was a mediocre starter, then a long reliever, then a set-up for Wetteland, then the closer. If you have balls (and no ear for the media) as a reliever, you will be a good closer. But the position is unneeded in my view.2009 MLB:
JULY
23-19 (+21.72x)
Sides; 8-12; -9.43x
Totals; 17-9-1; +33.20x
AUGUST
1-2 (-4.7x)
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Originally posted by SustainDanIt seem like every closer is in doubt when you bring them in the game..you come in to pitch one inning a game and blow it, Papelbon, jenks, ray, and rivera seem clutch in most instances yet most other closers are in doubt. I honestly dont get it...is it nerves?? if it is they shouldnt be there anyways2009 MLB:
JULY
23-19 (+21.72x)
Sides; 8-12; -9.43x
Totals; 17-9-1; +33.20x
AUGUST
1-2 (-4.7x)
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dan.imo,the last 3 years or so,relief pitching sucks.remember when the yankees brought mendoza and rivera in from the 7th inning on-if they had a lead it was lights out,is there any combination in baseball anywhere close to those guys right now-ae- a setup man and a closer ? chunger !! ps-WHAT HAPPENED TO OUR BOY DUKE OF EARL,A CLOSE FRIEND OF MINE SAID THE NEW PITCHING COACH FOR PITT. CHANGED HIS MECHANICS !!DON'T YOU EAT THE YELLOW SNOW !!PS-MARVIN LOVES SPLIT SALAD !!
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Originally posted by waynechungdan.imo,the last 3 years or so,relief pitching sucks.remember when the yankees brought mendoza and rivera in from the 7th inning on-if they had a lead it was lights out,is there any combination in baseball anywhere close to those guys right now-ae- a setup man and a closer?2009 MLB:
JULY
23-19 (+21.72x)
Sides; 8-12; -9.43x
Totals; 17-9-1; +33.20x
AUGUST
1-2 (-4.7x)
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Originally posted by waynechungdan.imo,the last 3 years or so,relief pitching sucks.remember when the yankees brought mendoza and rivera in from the 7th inning on-if they had a lead it was lights out,is there any combination in baseball anywhere close to those guys right now-ae- a setup man and a closer ? chunger !! ps-WHAT HAPPENED TO OUR BOY DUKE OF EARL,A CLOSE FRIEND OF MINE SAID THE NEW PITCHING COACH FOR PITT. CHANGED HIS MECHANICS !!Last edited by WayneChung; 07-10-2006, 11:32 AM.DON'T YOU EAT THE YELLOW SNOW !!PS-MARVIN LOVES SPLIT SALAD !!
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Chung...they did alter the dukes pitching technique, WHY?? I dont know, maybe he has no brains...Mike Pelfrey is the pitcher i mentioned him hes on the mets and will be a number 3 starter by next year behind pedro and glavine...Hamels is good its just his run support sucks, the phillies either score a ghastly amount of runs or dont score at all. CHUNGER what did i tell ya about FRANCISCO LIRIANO at the beginning of the year told ya hed be a stud now he is top running for CY YOUNG WOOHOOOQuitters Never Win, Winners Will NEVER Quit
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Originally posted by SustainDanChung...they did alter the dukes pitching technique, WHY?? I dont know, maybe he has no brains...Mike Pelfrey is the pitcher i mentioned him hes on the mets and will be a number 3 starter by next year behind pedro and glavine...Hamels is good its just his run support sucks, the phillies either score a ghastly amount of runs or dont score at all. CHUNGER what did i tell ya about FRANCISCO LIRIANO at the beginning of the year told ya hed be a stud now he is top running for CY YOUNG WOOHOOODON'T YOU EAT THE YELLOW SNOW !!PS-MARVIN LOVES SPLIT SALAD !!
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