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  • Fightin' Irish F***in' Up??? SORRY ROOK!!!

    http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm


    POSTED 12:15 p.m. EDT; UPDATED 1:08 p.m. EDT, June 25, 2006

    WEIS, IRISH FLIRTING WITH DISASTER?

    A league source with intimate knowledge of the applicable NCAA regulations tells us that Notre Dame coach Charlie Weis might have rendered quarterback Brady Quinn and other incoming seniors ineligible if, as we previously have reported, Weis has directed the seniors with designs on pro football to pick their agents before the start of the 2006 season.

    Rule 12.3.1 of the NCAA bylaws states that "[a]n individual shall be ineligible for participation in an intercollegiate sport if he or she ever has agreed (orally or in writing) to be represented by an agent for the purpose of marketing his or her athletics ability or reputation in that sport." Rule 12.3.1.1 elaborates on the general principle set forth in Rule 12.3.1: "An individual shall be ineligible per Bylaw 12.3.1 if he or she enters into a verbal or written agreement with an agent for representation in future professional sports negotiations that are to take place after the individual has completed his or her eligibility in that sport." A screen shot of the relevant page from the on-line NCAA manual appears below.

    So what does it all mean? If Quinn or any other of his teammates actually pick a football agent before the completion of their eligibility, their eligibility might be completed far sooner than they realized.

    The key is that eligibility evaporates per Rule 12.3.1.1 even if there's only a verbal agreement between, for example, Quinn and agent Don Yee that Yee will represent Quinn, and that a written agreement for the representation will be signed later. Although it might be difficult for the NCAA to prove that there's a violation if Quinn and Yee mutually agree to claim that there was no agreement, the fact that Quinn is going through the process of interviewing agents and narrowing the field before his final season of college ball is strong circumstantial evidence of an intention to pick his agent while still otherwise eligible. The fact that Yee and others are participating in the process is likewise circumstantial evidence of an implicit agreement that they'll agree to represent Quinn, if picked to do so.

    The broader question is whether the NCAA will dare to do anything that might result in killing the goose that lays beneath the golden dome. Our guess? The powers-that-be will stick their heads in the sand on this one, content in spewing the party line that no final selections have been made by any of the Notre Dame seniors.

    Still, it's a risk that Weis would have been wise not to take, in light of the plain language of the relevant bylaws (unless, of course, he got advance approval from the NCAA that it's okay to tell his guys to pick their agents if they merely don't tell the agents they've been picked).

    And what does Weis really gain by forcing the players to pick agents now? Although some league insiders think it's a brilliant strategy for minimizing distractions, it's also a possible means for fomenting resentment from players who would have preferred not to be rushed. Many factors still need to be determined, and an agent who looks to be the right choice in June might not ultimately be a player's best bet come January.

    As one league insider told us on Sunday, "Weis isn't doing the kids any favors by sheltering them. He instead should be educating them so that they can make good decisions at the right time."

    Indeed, the only college players who talk to agents during the seasons are the college players who want to. Really, why should Weis or any other coach tell the players that they can't use what little free time they have talking to potential agents?

    Stay tuned. At a time when the media ripped ferociously into various scandals that emerged in April regarding USC, we figure that there's enough blood in the water to prompt a few of them to take a hard look at whether the efforts of Charlie Weis to minimize distractions have inadvertently created a big fat one.


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    RUH ROH!!!!!!! Sounds like the so called Preseason #1 team in the land maybe in a little hot water.. Boy I sure do hope so!!

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    • #3
      Wow....I wonder how much truth is in that.

      I might have to dig and see what I can find.

      Good stuff Tha Fix .....thanks for making me not sleep now tonight! lol

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      • #4
        Here's the word from someone that has "inside" knowledge of the program: NOTHING will ever come of this. All the HATERS will continue to spew forth all their crap because of something that some piece of shit agent has said is happening.

        Until Charlie Weiss says that any of this is even remotely true, don't believe a word of it. Unless you have HARD facts and/or credible evidence, you are as bad as the Star and National Enquirer!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by CooCoo Magoo
          Here's the word from someone that has "inside" knowledge of the program: NOTHING will ever come of this. All the HATERS will continue to spew forth all their crap because of something that some piece of shit agent has said is happening.

          Until Charlie Weiss says that any of this is even remotely true, don't believe a word of it. Unless you have HARD facts and/or credible evidence, you are as bad as the Star and National Enquirer!


          I've been trying to get Coo Coo in the forum for a long time now, and I KNEW that this post would do it !


          Coo Coo is my best friend.....lol and a bigger ND fan then I am!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by CooCoo Magoo
            Here's the word from someone that has "inside" knowledge of the program: NOTHING will ever come of this. All the HATERS will continue to spew forth all their crap because of something that some piece of shit agent has said is happening.

            Until Charlie Weiss says that any of this is even remotely true, don't believe a word of it. Unless you have HARD facts and/or credible evidence, you are as bad as the Star and National Enquirer!
            Nice post.. to Bettors Chat

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            • #7
              Welcome to Bettorschat CooCoo PooPoo
              "Calling an illegal alien an 'undocumented immigrant'
              is like calling a drug dealer an 'unlicensed pharmacist'"

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Lsufan
                Welcome to Bettorschat CooCoo PooPoo

                Coo Coo...I IMPLORE you to ignore this bastage.....

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                • #9
                  Welcome COO COO!!!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by TheRook
                    Coo Coo...I IMPLORE you to ignore this bastage.....
                    "Calling an illegal alien an 'undocumented immigrant'
                    is like calling a drug dealer an 'unlicensed pharmacist'"

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                    • #11
                      No PooPoo here but just some straight talk to fight all the stupid bullshit that the haters spew every time they think they have "something". You will NEVER tarnish that dome! MANY MANY MANY men have tried. They've written articles, books, testified in court, NOTHING have EVER been able to change the fact that it is NOTRE DAME! The is NO University or college football program that even comes CLOSE!

                      I know what comes next. You guys all live in the past. What have you done lately. What about Lou Holtz. What about the booster rumors. What about this blah blah blah... What about that blah blah blah...

                      The FACT still remains, it is STILL THE UNIVERSITY OF NOTRE DAME. Those who don't understand it, can't stand it. Bottom line!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Lsufan


                        lol

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by CooCoo Magoo
                          No PooPoo here but just some straight talk to fight all the stupid bullshit that the haters spew every time they think they have "something". You will NEVER tarnish that dome! MANY MANY MANY men have tried. They've written articles, books, testified in court, NOTHING have EVER been able to change the fact that it is NOTRE DAME! The is NO University or college football program that even comes CLOSE!

                          I know what comes next. You guys all live in the past. What have you done lately. What about Lou Holtz. What about the booster rumors. What about this blah blah blah... What about that blah blah blah...

                          The FACT still remains, it is STILL THE UNIVERSITY OF NOTRE DAME. Those who don't understand it, can't stand it. Bottom line!
                          I kind of think that all this is posted toward me and the only reason I even posted this was for the ROOK. I could really care less if ND ever played a football game again. I never said they were guilty of anything!!!
                          Last edited by ***THA FIX***; 06-26-2006, 08:29 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by ***THA FIX***
                            I kind of think that all this is posted toward me and the only reason I even posted this was for the ROOK. I could really care less if ND ever played a football game again. I never said they were guilty of anything!!!

                            Tha Fix...I can GUARANTEE you that he didn't mean it toward any one person.

                            He's just that way about notre dame...kind of like you are with Auburn, and I am about the Cubs and Notre Dame a close second.

                            He's a great guy, and will be great to converse with during football season.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ***THA FIX***
                              I kind of think that all this is posted toward me and the only reason I even posted this was for the ROOK. I could really care less if ND ever played a football game again. I never said they were guilty of anything!!!


                              But thanks for stirring the pot!!!

                              LMAO

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