Who is the better player?

[Kaptain]

ULikeAples

Here are some more things for "what he has done": (some may repeat, sorry

James owns numerous NBA "youngest player" records:

Youngest player to be named NBA Rookie of the Year (19 years of age).
Youngest player to record a triple-double (20 years, 20 days).
Recorded 27 points, 11 rebounds, and 10 assists on January 19, 2005 vs. the Portland Trail Blazers.
Youngest player to score 40 points in a game (19 years).[8]
Youngest player to score 50 points in a game (20 years, 80 days)
Recorded 56 points vs. the Toronto Raptors on March 20, 2005.
Youngest player to score 2000 points in a season (2004-05 season).
Youngest player to average 30 points per game in a season (2005-06 season).
Youngest player to reach:
1,000 points
2,000 points
3,000 points
4,000 points
5,000 points
6,000 points
7,000 points
8,000 points
Youngest player to win an All-Star Game MVP (21 years, 51 days)
Youngest player to be named to the All-NBA first team (21 years, 138 days)
Youngest player to lead the league in All-Star voting (22 years, 26 days)
Youngest player to score atleast 20 straight points in a game
Youngest player to score atleast 45 points in a playoff game

One of three players in NBA history to average at least 20 points, 5 rebounds and 5 assists in their rookie season.
Includes Oscar Robertson and Michael Jordan.
One of five players in NBA history to average over 25 points, 7 rebounds and 7 assists in a season.
Includes Larry Bird, Michael Jordan, Oscar Robertson, and John Havlicek.
One of four players in NBA history to average at least 31 points, 7 rebounds and 6 assists in a season.
Includes Oscar Robertson, Jerry West, and Michael Jordan.
One of three players in NBA history to record a triple-double in their playoff debut.
Includes Magic Johnson and Johnny McCarthy.
One of two players in NBA history to average at least 27 points, 6 rebounds and 6 assists for three consecutive seasons.
Includes Oscar Robertson.
2nd place all-time on consecutive 20-point games to start a playoff career with 19.
Behind Kareem Abdul-Jabbar's 27 consecutive games
Only player in NBA history to score 25 straight points in a playoff game.

Rookie Year
James became the youngest player in league history to score 40 points in a game. He averaged 20.9 points, 5.9 assists, and 5.5 rebounds per game for the season, and was named Rookie of the Year; becoming the first Cavalier and youngest NBA player to ever receive the award. He joined Oscar Robertson and Michael Jordan as the only three players in NBA history to average at least 20 points, 5 rebounds, and 5 assists per game in their rookie season. The Cavaliers improved by 18 wins and concluded the regular season with a 35–47 record.

04-05
James became the youngest player in league history to register a triple-double, score 50 points in a game, and make the All-NBA Team. He averaged 27.2 points, 7.2 assists, 7.4 rebounds, and 2.2 steals per game.

05-06
James was elected to his second straight All-Star Game appearance and led the Eastern All-Stars to a 122–120 victory, with 29 points, 6 rebounds, and 2 assists. He became the youngest All-Star MVP at 21 years, 51 days. He was named NBA Player of the Week for an unprecedented three consecutive weeks and concluded the season with five honors. He scored 35 or more points in nine consecutive games and joined Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant as the only players since 1970 to accomplish the feat. For the season, James averaged 31.4 points, 7.0 rebounds, and 6.6 assists per game, and became the youngest player in NBA history to average at least 30 points. He also became the fourth player in NBA history to average more than 30 points, 7 rebounds and 6 assists in a single season

Although he finished second to Steve Nash of the Phoenix Suns in MVP voting, he was awarded co-MVP honors with Nash by The Sporting News; an award given by the publication that is based on the voting of thirty NBA general managers.

He joined Johnny McCarthy and Magic Johnson as the only players in NBA history to register a triple-double in their playoff debut. In Game 3, he registered 41 points and became the first player in NBA history to score 40 points in their first playoff road game.

James averaged 30.8 points, 8.1 rebounds, and 5.8 assists in the playoffs.

06-07
At the end of the season, he joined Oscar Robertson as the only players in NBA history to average 27 points, 6 rebounds and 6 assists for three consecutive years.

In the first round of the playoffs, James led the Cavaliers to their first sweep in franchise history over the Washington Wizards in four games. It was also the first time the franchise has won consecutive road playoff games. For the series, James averaged 27.8 points, 7.5 assists, and 8.5 rebounds. In the second round of the playoffs, James led the Cavaliers to a 4–2 series victory over the New Jersey Nets. He averaged 25.0 points, 7.2 rebounds, and 8.6 assists in the series, as the Cavaliers advanced to the Eastern Conference Finals for the first time in 15 years.

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If you consider all of that "doing nothing", then I can't really help you with the anger/jealousy problem that must be leading to develope your train of thought.

Apples, I appreciate the input, but those are MERELY STATS....In the record books.....Have nothing to do with Biased opinions, and these Accurate Stats are

over ruled, by SoonerBud and Sooner Mac.....Quote SoonerBud, stats don't mean anything, it's the wins only that count.....example, Clemens best ever, cause he wins, has nothing to do with stats, or the good team backing him up.....

Example....the other day, Clemens pitched 6 1/3 innings, gave up just 7 hits, 2 ER's, Only 1 walk, with 8 K's, and yet lost 2-0 to the Mets......Quite a performance, enhances stats, but means nothing, cause he didn't win (SoonerBud)......

When I brought up Nolan Ryans feats, stats, I was told by SoonerBud that meant nothing, cause he didn't win as many as Clemens.......I wonder if the stats mean anything now, or is it just a LOSS for Clemens....Nuff said....

Naturaly----the Twin "SoonerMac" agreed........So unless the stats favor the Biased opinions of the "Sooner Twins" "Bud & MAC", you might as well not post em......

But thanks anyway my man----I enjoyed the STATS (Reality)....

PS----Wins go to Team Stats also......Money is paid by Stats acquired and earned by respective players........For example a player playing for a team that won 30 % of their games, and hit 345, with 52 HR's, and 160 RBI's, vs another free agent that played on a team that won 70% of their games, and he finished with a 212 BA, 1 HR, 11 RBI's, and struck out 1/3 of the time, based on Stats, who do you think will get the $.....I'd have to ask the Sooner Twins.....

[TwoTonTony]

DAMN SKIPPY! Im so damn sure "Queen" James would do that

i do not know if james would do it....I just thought it was funny (not the injury)...that a wheelchair was needed for a non-leg injury and the whole towel over the head ET look was cool......but the tears.....man, you have to hold em back until you hit the locker room bro!!!

i am not even a hoops fan....and would not know who is better....i would assume d-wade since he finished the deal......but greatness is over a career....not 1 game....not 1 series.....

[zeib10]

This poll should not even be close. D Wade is da Man!

[soonerbud]

Your right Zeib.....and Kaptain why don't you go back to your "sandbox" and play you little baby. TMac and I promise not to kick anymore sand in your face. For 65 you act like you are about SIX!! But you like the attention, hell as miserable as a person that you seem to be, what else do you have to look forward too. But I enjoy you whining, it lets me know that some people stay an adolescent forever........or how do you and my daughter say it "Whatever". Don't be sad because you are wrong, it is our job as mature adults to guide young ones like you,

[Kaptain]

SoonerBud

Your right Zeib.....and Kaptain why don't you go back to your "sandbox" and play you little baby. TMac and I promise not to kick anymore sand in your face. For 65 you act like you are about SIX!! But you like the attention, hell as miserable as a person that you seem to be, what else do you have to look forward too. But I enjoy you whining, it lets me know that some people stay an adolescent forever........or how do you and my daughter say it "Whatever". Don't be sad because you are wrong, it is our job as mature adults to guide young ones like you,

WhatEver #9

[soonerbud]

atta boy Kappy.....I like you better saying Whatever, makes more sense then most the "childish" crap you post!!

[Kaptain]

soonerbud

atta boy Kappy.....I like you better saying Whatever, makes more sense then most the "childish" crap you post!!

whatever # 11 and climbing fast

[Three Jack]

Your right Zeib.....and Kaptain why don't you go back to your "sandbox" and play you little baby. TMac and I promise not to kick anymore sand in your face. For 65 you act like you are about SIX!! But you like the attention, hell as miserable as a person that you seem to be, what else do you have to look forward too. But I enjoy you whining, it lets me know that some people stay an adolescent forever........or how do you and my daughter say it "Whatever". Don't be sad because you are wrong, it is our job as mature adults to guide young ones like you,

With all due respect, this is exactly why you have grated on the nervous of more than a handful of people on this board. Instead of having an honest sports debate why do you feel the need to make personal attacks? Because you can't defend your argument? If you don't like Kaptain, let it go and don't debate him. In reading his post three times, he pointed out what he thinks are flaws in your thinking. I didn't read any name calling. I didn't read any personal attacks. Instead of responding in a mature way, you call him old yet immature, miserable, a whiner, wrong and you come across as being an obnoxious prick. Who is the immature one? Its fine to be passionate about an opinion but there is no need to start name calling. Because he has a different opinion of you doesn't make him 'wrong' nor does it make your opinion 'wrong'. I just don't understand why you make these debates personal. Quite frankly, you take the fun out of it. To me, these are signs of someone that is miserable with life.........

And while number of posts mean nothing in terms of knowledge or being able to share opinions, it means a lot in terms of earning respect. The Kaptain has earned the respect of most everyone on this board over the years. For you to start slinging mud at someone like him is actually somewhat comical. Disagree with everyone all you want...but what makes this board different than most others is that people are allowed to share opinions without the war of words. We all love good sports debates and we are all passionate about our opinions, which makes these tyoe of discussions fun...save the name calling for other sites.

Just my 2 cents and it is probably worth less than that in your mind...

Go ahead and start your diatribe towards me....can't wait to read what insults you will sling my way.

[soonerbud]

Oh I get it Jack, he can act like a child and because he supposedly has earned everyones respect he can't be challenged. So the minute anyone says anything about HIS ridiculous behavior then we are wrong. OK, I get it now. I apologized to you in a thread earlier this week. Right after you commented about Dwade and his greatness in Game 3 a year ago.
I will continue down that path with you, as I actually DO respect you. You have always been sensible and very intelligent in your conversation. However, Kappy gets what he asks for by his behavior. We totally disagree on several fronts, and if you can call his response above a positive response. Well we agree to disagree. I don't have to respect Kappy, nor do I. He will get what he give to me. And I am sure visa versa, and in regards to "mudslinging" and "name calling" Kappy has done his fair share to both me and Tmac. So, I respect you dude. But I ain't buying in on this one. Talk about comical, anyone who answers post with "Whatever # " now that is a JOKE! OH, JMHO!

[Three Jack]

Oh I get it Jack, he can act like a child and because he supposedly has earned everyones respect he can't be challenged.

You like putting words in my mouth, don't you? Not the first time you have created an argument that doesn't exist. Do you do this because you like the attention and the arguing?Where did I say you can't challenge him? Please point it out! In fact, you missed the entire point of the post. What I am saying is we appreciate good challenges on this site but just do it without the name calling. If you want to debate me, be accurate with my statements please. Challenge him and everyone else all you want, I just don't and will not understand the name calling one bit.

And no one says you have to respect anyone. Respect is earned, but, again, my point being with less than 500 posts you come out slinging names at a guy that has been around as long as anyone on the board. Again, number of posts mean nothing in terms of whether someone is right, whether someone is knowledgeable, whether someone is a nice guy or not. But they do go along way in whther or not that person is respected by other members on the board. What do you think it says about you to all the others on this site when they read the crap you posted above in response to a post that questions your opinion, but not your person? If you don't like his behavior, point it out and why...without the name calling. He did it to you about a week ago and gave you reasons why youwere pissing people off...not because of your opinions but because of the way you debate topics. He didn' call you names in tha that post. And whether he or anyone else it right or wrong, imo, the board is meant to post opinions, not to call people names.

[Kaptain]

soonerbud

Oh I get it Jack, he can act like a child and because he supposedly has earned everyones respect he can't be challenged. So the minute anyone says anything about HIS ridiculous behavior then we are wrong. OK, I get it now. I apologized to you in a thread earlier this week. Right after you commented about Dwade and his greatness in Game 3 a year ago.
I will continue down that path with you, as I actually DO respect you. You have always been sensible and very intelligent in your conversation. However, Kappy gets what he asks for by his behavior. We totally disagree on several fronts, and if you can call his response above a positive response. Well we agree to disagree. I don't have to respect Kappy, nor do I. He will get what he give to me. And I am sure visa versa, and in regards to "mudslinging" and "name calling" Kappy has done his fair share to both me and Tmac. So, I respect you dude. But I ain't buying in on this one. Talk about comical, anyone who answers post with "Whatever # " now that is a JOKE! OH, JMHO!

whatever # 14