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Credo fought to end the war in iraq. At&t helped elect bush-cheney
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Still the ole blame Bush routine.
If I take over a company and 3 years into my job I'm still blaming the last CEO for why were not making money then I'm as big of an idiot as he was. Your boy has had plenty of time and he's failed. It's ok to admit that your wrong from time to time. Surely somewhere in yalls minds y'all have to admit you made a mistake with this bozo.
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Originally posted by KazDog View PostWatchtower Watchtower Watchtower
You act like this is the first administration to waste money on something that didn't work. Ever hear of the Iraq and Afghanistan war? Talk about waste. To the tune of trillions and trillions of tax dollars. That's where your tax dollar was wasted and continued to be wasted until now!
In my eyes, there was nothing this admin was going to do that would satisfy them. They've tried a lot of things to fix the problems. Some have worked and others have not.
You act like this is the first gov't that's implemented pork barrel spending or that has spent money on something that didn't work. Until you get rid of the political system we have in place, these politicians will always spend money on unnecessary things. It is what our gov't is, always has been.
Was there waste by this administration? Absolutely, but there was also money that was spent that helped more people in the long run. Bush had 2 economic tax stimulus plans that did absolutely nothing and cost the country billions. How'd that work out for us? At least the money that was spent was spent by this admin's economic stimulus actually benefitted people.
I don't care who took over office in 08, they were gonna have a difficult task of fixing what was broken. The one way this administration figured would help was to put more money in the hands of the majority and less money in the greedy hands of the rich fucks at the top. They were constantly stonewalled by the GOP.
Call it socialism or whatever you want, but the fact is, the top 3% are not hurting, big businesses are not hurting, companies are making billions and they are outsourcing jobs to foreign countries. FUCK THAT. It should cost every one of those greedy bastards for doing that kind of BS business and using slave labor in other countries. And that's the mistake I feel that this administration has done by allowing it to continue. PENALIZE THEM. They should be worried about hiring Americans. Not foreigners. But hey, that's capitalism, that's the republican way. No way that gets dealt with by anyone in office. The rich are the ones pulling all the strings and making the decisions. Flat tax them? Never gonna happen. They don't want to pay their fair share. I have no problem taxing their asses more, but the GOP has stonewalled any effort there. Don't touch the rich, because somehow, the rest of us will benefit. Unfortunately, we never do....
I don't have a problem with bailing out Europe. Everywhere around the world where countries fail has an affect on us. If China had that same attitude, we'd be fucking bankrupt. How many times have we been bailed out?
Unemployment numbers have been falling, albeit slowly, for the past couple of years and it's not because the 99 weekers are falling off, it's because the administration has spent money to increase the workforce. Tax or fine the bastards for outsourcing and the unemployment numbers would be a quarter of where they are now. I'm all for putting more money in the hands of the majority. That's not an ideology of the GOP. Never has been.
Just like I said, NOTHING HAS WORKED…plz tell me what did?
Ron paul will be the only person to change that…Minimize the Fed and GOV’T
You say bush did nothing, hum….i don’t remember seeing things this bad, but for some reason everything I read things are improving….BULLSHIT if they are, nothing has improved, the only thing that has is our spending to send out bullshit signals that things are getting better…hence the latest US housing markets were artificially inflated by 14% from 2007-2010….just once can someone with higher powers do something to change this BS data that is given to us…but housing markets are improving…yes they are
US Housing Market Was Artificially Inflated By 14% In 2007-2010 NAR Reports | ZeroHedge
Your the same person who thought CLINTON was awesome and created all these jobs but then bush walked into a little era called the "dot.com bubble" but i didn't see them spending 5 trillion to save pets.com companies...
Does anyone understand we are in way worse shape than 2008? THIS IS GETTING BAD
Shouldn’t be the individuals problems, I totally think it should be on the companies and how they are f’ing with the tax code….
WOW, this is where we totally disagree here….Europe is a problem that CANN’T be fixed, I don’t care how much money you throw their way, and if that’s the case then let the f’ers fail, but we can’t, cuz every f’n banker at BAC, C, GS, MS, JEF etc are exposed to the 100th degree like MF global was, but remember things are good, unemployment is improving and housing markets are turning to the good…
I’m all for helping people, but the stories that people don’t even try to look for a job and expect the gov’t to keep paying is just amazing to me….Sooner or later it has to stop, but our country is the only one that thinks it’s ok to keep spending and put our future in jeopardy, everyone is worried about now, and I’m fearing more down the road..
Guest Post: Worse Than 2008 | ZeroHedge
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Originally posted by vols fan View PostStill the ole blame Bush routine.
If I take over a company and 3 years into my job I'm still blaming the last CEO for why were not making money then I'm as big of an idiot as he was. Your boy has had plenty of time and he's failed. It's ok to admit that your wrong from time to time. Surely somewhere in yalls minds y'all have to admit you made a mistake with this bozo.
It's one thing if obama was in office and didn't spend much, told the country we are in hard times and went along his way, i'd be impressed, but this idiot has to be kicked to the curb along with reid and palosi...
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DID bloomberg just come out with this, WOW, shocking
EFSF LENDING CAPACITY MAY DROP TO EU293 BLN, CULLINAN SAYS
EURO RESCUE FUND'S CAPACITY MAY FALL BY A THIRD, CULLINAN SAYS
EURO RESCUE FUND MAY SHRINK ON FRANCE DOWNGRADE, CULLINAN SAYS
S&P SOVEREIGN RATINGS DIRECTOR CULLINAN COMMENTS IN E-MAIL
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Originally posted by Watchtower76 View PostI’m not going to get into war talk, I have family and friends that were over there, and guess what, they are now back and have NO JOB…defense spending sure employees people and all the small nut and bolt shops as well….
Just like I said, NOTHING HAS WORKED…plz tell me what did?
Ron paul will be the only person to change that…Minimize the Fed and GOV’T
You say bush did nothing, hum….i don’t remember seeing things this bad, but for some reason everything I read things are improving….BULLSHIT if they are, nothing has improved, the only thing that has is our spending to send out bullshit signals that things are getting better…hence the latest US housing markets were artificially inflated by 14% from 2007-2010….just once can someone with higher powers do something to change this BS data that is given to us…but housing markets are improving…yes they are
US Housing Market Was Artificially Inflated By 14% In 2007-2010 NAR Reports | ZeroHedge
Your the same person who thought CLINTON was awesome and created all these jobs but then bush walked into a little era called the "dot.com bubble" but i didn't see them spending 5 trillion to save pets.com companies...
Does anyone understand we are in way worse shape than 2008? THIS IS GETTING BAD
Shouldn’t be the individuals problems, I totally think it should be on the companies and how they are f’ing with the tax code….
WOW, this is where we totally disagree here….Europe is a problem that CANN’T be fixed, I don’t care how much money you throw their way, and if that’s the case then let the f’ers fail, but we can’t, cuz every f’n banker at BAC, C, GS, MS, JEF etc are exposed to the 100th degree like MF global was, but remember things are good, unemployment is improving and housing markets are turning to the good…
I’m all for helping people, but the stories that people don’t even try to look for a job and expect the gov’t to keep paying is just amazing to me….Sooner or later it has to stop, but our country is the only one that thinks it’s ok to keep spending and put our future in jeopardy, everyone is worried about now, and I’m fearing more down the road..
Guest Post: Worse Than 2008 | ZeroHedge
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Originally posted by vols fan View PostStill the ole blame Bush routine.
If I take over a company and 3 years into my job I'm still blaming the last CEO for why were not making money then I'm as big of an idiot as he was. Your boy has had plenty of time and he's failed. It's ok to admit that your wrong from time to time. Surely somewhere in yalls minds y'all have to admit you made a mistake with this bozo.
And, FWIW, YOU were the one on here claiming that Obama wasn't going to get us out of Iraq and that you wouldn't believe it until you saw it. Well, you're seeing it. And you can add Afghanistan to that realization as well. That will save us trillions in and of itself...
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Originally posted by KazDog View PostCouldn't disagree with you any more. I didn't make a mistake at all and will vote for him again. Any person that takes over a company that was driven into the ground by their predecessor, must learn by those mistakes and try to fix what was severely broken.
And, FWIW, YOU were the one on here claiming that Obama wasn't going to get us out of Iraq and that you wouldn't believe it until you saw it. Well, you're seeing it. And you can add Afghanistan to that realization as well. That will save us trillions in and of itself...
KAZ
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Originally posted by vols fan View PostUnlike yourself I can admit When I'm wrong and admit that he did get us out of Iraq alot sooner than I thought we would. Great job by him. Only thing that sucks is when you do 1 thing good and 100 other things bad then IMO as a whole he's still done a piss poor job.
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Put all politicians in a building
Blow it the Fuck up
Start over
Any future politicalcian who affiliates him/herself with left, right, or middle gets a 22 into their head!!
Won't be any positive change in this country till that happens.
We're fat, lazy, and privileged; always leads to the collapse of great empires. Ours will be no different my friends, the only variable is time.Questions, comments, complaints:
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Originally posted by KazDog View PostCouldn't disagree with you any more. I didn't make a mistake at all and will vote for him again. Any person that takes over a company that was driven into the ground by their predecessor, must learn by those mistakes and try to fix what was severely broken.
And, FWIW, YOU were the one on here claiming that Obama wasn't going to get us out of Iraq and that you wouldn't believe it until you saw it. Well, you're seeing it. And you can add Afghanistan to that realization as well. That will save us trillions in and of itself...
KAZ
he'll use the war savings to bail out another SOLYNDRA, or bail out GM to watch every car dealership now full of cars and no one to buy them.....
they will find another form of wasting the cash
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Originally posted by KazDog View PostI don't think he's done a perfect job Vols. Far from it. I think he hasn't done enough, but in a more liberal sense for lack of better words. I don't think he's done one good thing and 100's of bad things. I think he's tried some things that haven't worked and some things that have. I think he inherited a pile of shit and was expected to turn it into a pile of gold. It wouldn't have mattered who took over office, the country wasn't going to turn itself around no matter what they tried. We were buried too deep. One thing I do know, no matter what he did as something good he was gonna be perceived by republican's as a failure. They've been stonewalling him since day one.
KAZ
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Originally posted by jcindaville View PostPut all politicians in a building
Blow it the Fuck up
Start over
Any future politicalcian who affiliates him/herself with left, right, or middle gets a 22 into their head!!
Won't be any positive change in this country till that happens.
We're fat, lazy, and privileged; always leads to the collapse of great empires. Ours will be no different my friends, the only variable is time.
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Originally posted by Watchtower76 View PostIll ask once again, give me 3 things he's done good, still waiting for SOMEONE to give me the answer...
2. Ended the war in Afghanistan
3. Stabilized a country in a depression. We're just now starting to recover.
Unfortunately he's been too bipartisan for my blood. Caved in far too much. What does amaze me is the extremes Republican's will go to, to try and win the office in 2012 at the extent of destroying the country.
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Originally posted by KazDog View PostI don't think he's done a perfect job Vols. Far from it. I think he hasn't done enough, but in a more liberal sense for lack of better words. I don't think he's done one good thing and 100's of bad things. I think he's tried some things that haven't worked and some things that have. I think he inherited a pile of shit and was expected to turn it into a pile of gold. It wouldn't have mattered who took over office, the country wasn't going to turn itself around no matter what they tried. We were buried too deep. One thing I do know, no matter what he did as something good he was gonna be perceived by republican's as a failure. They've been stonewalling him since day one.
KAZ
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