Congressman to BP: "I apologize"

[husker]

It's true MM and unfortunate. It's not as big of a crime as Cheney and Bush's ties to oil, but it was no doubt underhanded....

thanks, that's a honest post, and i respect it.


the president's chief of staff being in BP's pocket, pretty plain and simple. i can't see a case being made any other way. how does that compare to "he said she said" with bush/chaney? dem's say one side, rep's say the other. this rahm thing is cut and dry, no?

[KazDog]

so MM, now that kaz has confirmed the rahm/BP thing. do you think that is much worse than anything that happened on bush's watch? he should resign imediately, this is probably one of the worst PR problems (at minimum) that i have seen for a president.

No he shouldn't. It was a British Petroleum adviser. Not the CEO. And every stinking politician has gotten campaign contributions from just about every corporation out there. It's part of the shitty political process. I'm not going to say every contributor to Bush's campaign's need to pay back or need to be scrutinized.

[musclemann]

so MM, now that kaz has confirmed the rahm/BP thing. do you think that is much worse than anything that happened on bush's watch? he should resign imediately, this is probably one of the worst PR problems (at minimum) that i have seen for a president.

Listen if YOU believe this is worst than standing in front of millions of people WORLDWIDE and lying about iraq having wmds to start a trillion dollar war and to get over 100,000's innocent people killed to drive up you and your buddy oil and defense stocks than your as blind as the guy your defending. He stayed in apartment with a fellow congressman whos spouse is a consultant to bp? Its not right(its wrong) but I didnt hear you bitching when 3 republican senators where found to be living rent free in the middle of d.c. That story was on 60 minutes a couple of months ago.


I didnt see you writing about that but I guess youre unbiased right. I stated obama shouldve fired all of bushs cronies on mms but you and jman wouldve been in here bitching about that as well. Hopefully he learned a valuable lesson.

Unlike you and your boy I dont blindly follow administrations, if theyre wrong, theyre wrong and im the first to say it.

[KazDog]

Listen if YOU believe this is worst than standing in front of millions of people WORLDWIDE and lying about iraq having wmds to start a trillion dollar war and to get over 100,000's innocent people killed to drive up you and your buddy oil and defense stocks than your as blind as the guy your defending. He stayed in apartment with a fellow congressman whos spouse is a consultant to bp? Its not right(its wrong) but I didnt hear you bitching when 3 republican senators where found to be living rent free in the middle of d.c. That story was on 60 minutes a couple of months ago.


I didnt see you writing about that but I guess youre unbiased right. I stated obama shouldve fired all of bushs cronies on mms but you and jman wouldve been in here bitching about that as well. Hopefully he learned a valuable lesson.

Unlike you and your boy I dont blindly follow administrations, if theyre wrong, theyre wrong and im the first to say it.

Excellent post MM. Right on the fucking money!

KAZ

[husker]

No he shouldn't. It was a British Petroleum adviser. Not the CEO. And every stinking politician has gotten campaign contributions from just about every corporation out there. It's part of the shitty political process. I'm not going to say every contributor to Bush's campaign's need to pay back or need to be scrutinized.

come on, the money came from BP and he knew it. now this spill happens with BP. it's as bad of PR as it gets. you know the heat is going to get turned WAY up.

if this leak never happened, we probably would never have known about it. like you said these things happen all the time, but when shit hits the fan like this i don't see the stink coming off.

[husker]

Listen if YOU believe this is worst than standing in front of millions of people WORLDWIDE and lying about iraq having wmds to start a trillion dollar war and to get over 100,000's innocent people killed to drive up you and your buddy oil and defense stocks than your as blind as the guy your defending. He stayed in apartment with a fellow congressman whos spouse is a consultant to bp? Its not right(its wrong) but I didnt hear you bitching when 3 republican senators where found to be living rent free in the middle of d.c. That story was on 60 minutes a couple of months ago.


I didnt see you writing about that but I guess youre unbiased right. I stated obama shouldve fired all of bushs cronies on mms but you and jman wouldve been in here bitching about that as well. Hopefully he learned a valuable lesson.

Unlike you and your boy I dont blindly follow administrations, if theyre wrong, theyre wrong and im the first to say it.

first most administrations do fire most of the heads of departments. i believe obama did that at MMS and NO ONE was complaining about it. that puts the last 1 1/2 years on HIM, not bush. HIS person didn't clean things up, then it's HIS problem!

who in the bush administration were you willing to "give a seccond chance" to after screwing up?

keep telling yourself you are unbiased.

[KazDog]

come on, the money came from BP and he knew it. now this spill happens with BP. it's as bad of PR as it gets. you know the heat is going to get turned WAY up.

if this leak never happened, we probably would never have known about it. like you said these things happen all the time, but when shit hits the fan like this i don't see the stink coming off.

Sure. It's bad PR. But every president and advisers go through bad PR. I still don't think it's so onerous that he should be fired. It's just a mark against him. I mean seriously, if we let Cheney stay in office after the Halliburton fiasco, then no way in hell should this guy be fired. Apples to apples....

[husker]

Sure. It's bad PR. But every president and advisers go through bad PR. I still don't think it's so onerous that he should be fired. It's just a mark against him. I mean seriously, if we let Cheney stay in office after the Halliburton fiasco, then no way in hell should this guy be fired. Apples to apples....

refresh me on the haliburton fiasco. everyone has to divulge themselves of their interests in any co's, investments, etc when they are in these kind of positions.

you can throw inuendo out there about EVERYONE. rahm pretty much got caught with his hand in the cookie jar.

[KazDog]

refresh me on the haliburton fiasco. everyone has to divulge themselves of their interests in any co's, investments, etc when they are in these kind of positions.

you can throw inuendo out there about EVERYONE. rahm pretty much got caught with his hand in the cookie jar.

Seriously? Refresh your memory? There was no innuendo's, he was filthy. Unless you were in a bubble for the past 15 years, Cheney and his Haliburton ties have been a huge fiasco for that administration.

I'm not explaining it. There was nothing more corrupt during the past 40 years than Cheney and Haliburton. Knock yourself out...

Halliburton Watch

[BettorsChat]

hummm....

looks to me like you are blaming bush, and downplaying the current administrations cosy deal with BP.

I guess you didn't comprehend what I posted before hand. If one want's to blame Obama for BP's mess it started on Bush's watch by allowing BP to get away from a fail safe. Do you comprehend that?

IMO though it was both Democrats and Republicans faults for voting and allowing BP to get away with it under President Bush.

[husker]

I guess you didn't comprehend what I posted before hand. If one want's to blame Obama for BP's mess it started on Bush's watch by allowing BP to get away from a fail safe. Do you comprehend that?

IMO though it was both Democrats and Republicans faults for voting and allowing BP to get away with it under President Bush.

you didn't post anything about it being bush and obama's fault defore the post that i quoted you (#17) you just mentioned bush. maybe you did in another thread, but not in this one.

i completely agree that all three parties are to blame, and have said it before.

[BettorsChat]

Joe Barton (R-TX) is the Representative for a landlocked (i.e., non-Gulf
shore) district of Texas in the U.S. Congress, and happens to be the
biggest recipient of money from the oil and gas
industry ($1.7 million over the past 20 years).

[husker]

Joe Barton (R-TX) is the Representative for a landlocked (i.e., non-Gulf
shore) district of Texas in the U.S. Congress, and happens to be the
biggest recipient of money from the oil and gas
industry ($1.7 million over the past 20 years).

barton got $27,350 compared to obama's
$77,051 from BP.

BP's Donations to Congress More Worrying than Its Donations to Obama - GOOD Blog - GOOD

The largest beneficiary of campaign donations from BP in the 2008 election cycle, for instance, was President Obama, who took in $77,000 from company executives and its political action committee. This year, Senator Blanche Lincoln, Democrat of Arkansas and chairwoman of the Agriculture Committee, leads all candidates with $286,000 in donations from oil and gas companies.

And while Democrats have pounced on Mr. Barton for accusing Mr. Obama of conducting a “shakedown” by demanding that BP set up a $20 billion fund for oil spill claims, a number of Democratic lawmakers — especially those from oil-producing Gulf states — have struggled to balance their criticism of BP with support for the industry.

Officials like Senator Mary L. Landrieu and Representative Charlie Melancon, both Democrats of Louisiana, have demanded accountability for BP and reparations for individuals and businesses who may face financial catastrophe. But they have also fought to lift the moratorium on offshore drilling imposed by the Obama administration after the Deepwater Horizon rig explosion, saying it is crippling the local economy.

“Fifty-seven days ago this country was using 20 million barrels of oil a day,” Ms. Landrieu said on the Senate floor this week, responding to a speech by Mr. Obama from the Oval Office. “Today, 57 days later, 11 lives lost, the rig at the bottom of the ocean, we are still using 20 million barrels a day. The president did not say to people last night to park their cars and walk to work.”

Ms. Landrieu continued, “We have to understand we have to continue to drill for oil and gas.”

Both Ms. Landrieu and Mr. Melancon, who is running for a Senate seat, receive substantial donations from the oil and gas industry, which is hardly surprising given the industry’s big presence in Louisiana. For her campaigns, Ms. Landrieu has taken in $751,000 since 1996, while Mr. Melancon has received $312,000 since 2004.

A Tricky Balance for Oil-State Politicians - NYTimes.com

[musclemann]

Joe Barton (R-TX) is the Representative for a landlocked (i.e., non-Gulf
shore) district of Texas in the U.S. Congress, and happens to be the
biggest recipient of money from the oil and gas
industry ($1.7 million over the past 20 years).

Why do these guys keep coming in defending barton. Its unreal. Obama may have received more in donations but he didnt get on t.v and start apologizing for bp. Jeez its like they dont understand certain things in life

Keep defending barton, if you need a link to his apology to b.p we can get it for you.

[BettorsChat]

Why do these guys keep coming in defending barton. Its unreal. Obama may have received more in donations but he didnt get on t.v and start apologizing for bp. Jeez its like they dont understand certain things in life

Keep defending barton, if you need a link to his apology to b.p we can get it for you.

Barton has received the most from Oil & Gas companies than anyone. I think they are referring to Obama and this year or last year.

But more oil money goes to Congress as a whole than to presidential candidates. Sunlight, an advocate for government transparency, lists the 10 biggest recipients of BP cash who are currently serving in Congress:

Rep. Don Young (R-Alaska)—$73,300
Sen. John McCain (R-Arizona)—$44,899
Sen. George Voinovich (R-Ohio)—$41,400
Rep. John Dingell (D-Michigan)—$31,000
Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-Louisiana)—$28,200
Rep. Joe Barton (R-Texas)—$27,350
Sen. Jim Inhofe (R-Oklahoma)—$22,300
Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Kentucky)—$22,000
Rep. John Culberson (R-Texas)—$20,950
Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-Texas)—$19,500