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    What if he is right?

    David Kaiser is a respected historian whose published works have covered a broad range of topics, from European Warfare to American League Baseball. Born in 1947, the son of a diplomat, Kaiser spent his childhood in three capital cities: Washington D.C. , Albany , New York , and Dakar , Senegal .. He attended Harvard University , graduating there in 1969 with a B.A. in history. He then spent several years more at Harvard, gaining a PhD in history, which he obtained in 1976. He served in the Army Reserve from 1970 to 1976.

    He is a professor in the Strategy and Policy Department of the United States Naval War College . He has previously taught at Carnegie Mellon, Williams College and Harvard University . Kaiser's latest book, The Road to Dallas , about the Kennedy assassination, was just published by Harvard UniversityPress.


    Dr. David Kaiser



    History Unfolding

    I am a student of history. Professionally, I have written 15 books on history that have been published in six languages, and I have studied history all my life. I have come to think there is something monumentally large afoot, and I do not believe it is simply a banking crisis, or a mortgage crisis, or a credit crisis. Yes these exist, but they are merely single facets on a very large gemstone that is only now coming into a sharper focus.

    Something of historic proportions is happening. I can sense it because I know how it feels, smells, what it looks like, and how people react to it. Yes, a perfect storm may be brewing, but there is something happening within our country that has been evolving for about ten to fifteen years. The pace has dramatically quickened in the past two.

    We demand and then codify into law the requirement that our banks make massive loans to people we know they can never pay back? Why?

    We learned just days ago that the Federal Reserve, which has little or no real oversight by anyone, has "loaned" two trillion dollars (that is $2,000,000,000,000) over the past few months, but will not tell us to whom or why or disclose the terms. That is our money. Yours and mine. And that is three times the $700 billion we all argued about so strenuously just this past September. Who has this money? Why do they have it? Why are the terms unavailable to us? Who asked for it? Who authorized it? I thought this was a government of "we the people," who loaned our powers to our elected leaders. Apparently not.

    We have spent two or more decades intentionally de-industrializing our economy.. Why?

    We have intentionally dumbed down our schools, ignored our history, and no longer teach our founding documents, why we are exceptional, and why we are worth preserving. Students by and large cannot write, think critically, read, or articulate. Parents are not revolting, teachers are not picketing, school boards continue to back mediocrity. Why?

    We have now established the precedent of protesting every close election (violently in California over a proposition that is so controversial that it simply wants marriage to remain defined as between one man and one woman. Did you ever think such a thing possible just a decade ago?) We have corrupted our sacred political process by allowing unelected judges to write laws that radically change our way of life, and then mainstream Marxist groups like ACORN and others to turn our voting system into a banana republic. To what purpose?

    Now our mortgage industry is collapsing, housing prices are in free fall, major industries are failing, our banking system is on the verge of collapse, social security is nearly bankrupt, as is Medicare and our entire government... Our education system is worse than a joke (I teach college and I know precisely what I am talking about) - the list is staggering in its length, breadth, and depth.. It is potentially 1929 x ten...And we are at war with an enemy we cannot even name for fear of offending people of the same religion, who, in turn, cannot wait to slit the throats of your children if they have the opportunity to do so.

    And finally, we have elected a man that no one really knows anything about, who has never run so much as a Dairy Queen, let alone a town as big as Wasilla , Alaska . All of his associations and alliances are with real radicals in their chosen fields of employment, and everything we learn about him, drip by drip, is unsettling if not downright scary (Surely you have heard him speak about his idea to create and fund a mandatory civilian defense force stronger than our military for use inside our borders? No? Oh, of course. The media would never play that for you over and over and then demand he answer it. Sarah Palin's pregnant daughter and $150,000 wardrobe are more important.)

    Mr. Obama's winning platform can be boiled down to one word: Change. Why?

    I have never been so afraid for my country and for my children as I am now.

    This man campaigned on bringing people together, something he has never, ever done in his professional life. In my assessment, Obama will divide us along philosophical lines, push us apart, and then try to realign the pieces into a new and different power structure. Change is indeed coming. And when it comes, you will never see the same nation again.

    And that is only the beginning..

    As a serious student of history, I thought I would never come to experience what the ordinary, moral German must have felt in the mid-1930s In those times, the "savior" was a former smooth-talking rabble-rouser from the streets, about whom the average German knew next to nothing.. What they should have known was that he was associated with groups that shouted, shoved, and pushed around people with whom they disagreed; he edged his way onto the political stage through great oratory. Conservative "losers" read it right now.

    And there were the promises. Economic times were tough, people were losing jobs, and he was a great speaker. And he smiled and frowned and waved a lot. And people, even newspapers, were afraid to speak out for fear that his "brown shirts" would bully and beat them into submission. Which they did - regularly. And then, he was duly elected to office, while a full-throttled economic crisis bloomed at hand - the Great Depression. Slowly, but surely he seized the controls of government power, person by person, department by department, bureaucracy by bureaucracy. The children of German citizens were at first, encouraged to join a Youth Movement in his name where they were taught exactly what to think. Later, they were required to do so. No Jews of course,

    How did he get people on his side? He did it by promising jobs to the jobless, money to the money-less, and rewards for the military-industrial complex.. He did it by indoctrinating the children, advocating gun control, health care for all, better wages, better jobs, and promising to re-instill pride once again in the country, across Europe , and across the world. He did it with a compliant media - did you know that? And he did this all in the name of justice and .... . .. change. And the people surely got what they voted for.

    If you think I am exaggerating, look it up. It's all there in the history books.

    So read your history books. Many people of conscience objected in 1933 and were shouted down, called names, laughed at, and ridiculed. When Winston Churchill pointed out the obvious in the late 1930s while seated in the House of Lords in England (he was not yet Prime Minister), he was booed into his seat and called a crazy troublemaker. He was right, though. And the world came to regret that he was not listened to.

    Do not forget that Germany was the most educated, the most cultured country in Europe . It was full of music, art, museums, hospitals, laboratories, and universities. And yet, in less than six years (a shorter time span than just two terms of the U. S. presidency) it was rounding up its own citizens, killing others, abrogating its laws, turning children against parents, and neighbors against neighbors.. All with the best of intentions, of course. The road to Hell is paved with them.

    As a practical thinker, one not overly prone to emotional decisions, I have a choice: I can either believe what the objective pieces of evidence tell me (even if they make me cringe with disgust); I can believe what history is shouting to me from across the chasm of seven decades; or I can hope I am wrong by closing my eyes, having another latte, and ignoring what is transpiring around me..

    I choose to believe the evidence. No doubt some people will scoff at me, others laugh, or think I am foolish, naive, or both. To some degree, perhaps I am. But I have never been afraid to look people in the eye and tell them exactly what I believe-and why I believe it..

    I pray I am wrong. I do not think I am. Perhaps the only hope is our vote in the next elections.

    David Kaiser

    Jamestown , Rhode Island

    United States





    America where we are headed???

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    WW II Battleship sailor tells Obama to shape up or ship out !

    WW II Battleship sailor tells Obama to shape up or ship out !



    This venerable and much honored WW II vet is well known in Hawaii
    for his seventy-plus years of service to patriotic organizations and causes
    all over the country. A humble man without a political bone in his body,
    he has never spoken out before about a government official, until now.
    He dictated this letter to a friend, signed it and mailed it to the president.



    Dear President Obama,

    My name is Harold Estes, approaching 95 on December 13 of this year. People meeting me for the first time don't believe my age because I remain wrinkle free and pretty much mentally alert.

    I enlisted in the U.S. Navy in 1934 and served proudly before, during and after WW II retiring as a Master Chief Bos'n Mate. Now I live in a "rest home" located on the western end of Pearl Harbor, allowing me to keep alive the memories of 23 years of service to my country.

    One of the benefits of my age, perhaps the only one, is to speak my mind, blunt and direct even to the head man.

    So here goes.

    I am amazed, angry and determined not to see my country die before I do, but you seem hell bent not to grant me that wish.

    I can't figure out what country you are the president of.
    You fly around the world telling our friends and enemies despicable lies like:
    " We're no longer a Christian nation"
    " America is arrogant" - (Your wife even
    announced to the world,"America is mean-
    spirited. " Please tell her to try preaching
    that nonsense to 23 generations of our
    war dead buried all over the globe who
    died for no other reason than to free a
    whole lot of strangers from tyranny and
    hopelessness.)
    I'd say shame on the both of you, but I don't think you like America, nor do I see an ounce of gratefulness in anything you do, for the obvious gifts this country has given you. To be without shame or gratefulness is a dangerous thing for a man sitting in the White House.

    After 9/11 you said," America hasn't lived up to her ideals."

    Which ones did you mean? Was it the notion of personal liberty that 11,000 farmers and shopkeepers died for to win independence from the British? Or maybe the ideal that no man should be a slave to another man, that 500,000 men died for in the Civil War? I hope you didn't mean the ideal 470,000 fathers, brothers, husbands, and a lot of fellas I knew personally died for in WWII, because we felt real strongly about not letting any nation push us around, because we stand for freedom.

    I don't think you mean the ideal that says equality is better than discrimination. You know the one that a whole lot of white people understood when they helped to get you elected.

    Take a little advice from a very old geezer, young man.

    Shape up and start acting like an American. If you don't, I'll do what I can to see you get shipped out of that fancy rental on Pennsylvania Avenue. You were elected to lead not to bow, apologize and kiss the hands of murderers and corrupt leaders who still treat their people like slaves.

    And just who do you think you are telling the American people not to jump to conclusions and condemn that Muslim major who killed 13 of his fellow soldiers and wounded dozens more. You mean you don't want us to do what you did when that white cop used force to subdue that black college professor in Massachusetts, who was putting up a fight? You don't mind offending the police calling them stupid but you don't want us to offend Muslim fanatics by calling them what they are, terrorists.

    One more thing. I realize you never served in the military and never had to defend your country with your life, but you're the Commander-in-Chief now, son. Do your job. When your battle-hardened field General asks you for 40,000 more troops to complete the mission, give them to him. But if you're not in this fight to win, then get out. The life of one American soldier is not worth the best political strategy you're thinking of.

    You could be our greatest president because you face the greatest challenge ever presented to any president.
    You're not going to restore American greatness by bringing back our bloated economy. That's not our greatest threat. Losing the heart and soul of who we are as Americans is our big fight now.
    And I sure as hell don't want to think my president is the enemy in this final battle.

    Sincerely,
    Harold B. Estes

    When a 95 year old hero of the "the Greatest Generation"
    stands up and speaks out like this, I think we owe it
    to him to send his words to as many Americans as
    we can

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    • #3
      And finally, we have elected a man that no one really knows anything about, who has never run so much as a Dairy Queen, let alone a town as big as Wasilla , Alaska . All of his associations and alliances are with real radicals in their chosen fields of employment, and everything we learn about him, drip by drip, is unsettling if not downright scary (Surely you have heard him speak about his idea to create and fund a mandatory civilian defense force stronger than our military for use inside our borders? No? Oh, of course. The media would never play that for you over and over and then demand he answer it. Sarah Palin's pregnant daughter and $150,000 wardrobe are more important.)


      This man campaigned on bringing people together, something he has never, ever done in his professional life. In my assessment, Obama will divide us along philosophical lines, push us apart, and then try to realign the pieces into a new and different power structure.





      this is all right on the money!
      “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have."

      Gerald Ford

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Spark View Post
        What if he is right?


        As a serious student of history, I thought I would never come to experience what the ordinary, moral German must have felt in the mid-1930s In those times, the "savior" was a former smooth-talking rabble-rouser from the streets, about whom the average German knew next to nothing.. What they should have known was that he was associated with groups that shouted, shoved, and pushed around people with whom they disagreed; he edged his way onto the political stage through great oratory. Conservative "losers" read it right now.

        And there were the promises. Economic times were tough, people were losing jobs, and he was a great speaker. And he smiled and frowned and waved a lot. And people, even newspapers, were afraid to speak out for fear that his "brown shirts" would bully and beat them into submission. Which they did - regularly. And then, he was duly elected to office, while a full-throttled economic crisis bloomed at hand - the Great Depression. Slowly, but surely he seized the controls of government power, person by person, department by department, bureaucracy by bureaucracy. The children of German citizens were at first, encouraged to join a Youth Movement in his name where they were taught exactly what to think. Later, they were required to do so. No Jews of course,

        How did he get people on his side? He did it by promising jobs to the jobless, money to the money-less, and rewards for the military-industrial complex.. He did it by indoctrinating the children, advocating gun control, health care for all, better wages, better jobs, and promising to re-instill pride once again in the country, across Europe , and across the world. He did it with a compliant media - did you know that? And he did this all in the name of justice and .... . .. change. And the people surely got what they voted for.

        If you think I am exaggerating, look it up. It's all there in the history books.

        So read your history books. Many people of conscience objected in 1933 and were shouted down, called names, laughed at, and ridiculed. When Winston Churchill pointed out the obvious in the late 1930s while seated in the House of Lords in England (he was not yet Prime Minister), he was booed into his seat and called a crazy troublemaker. He was right, though. And the world came to regret that he was not listened to.

        Do not forget that Germany was the most educated, the most cultured country in Europe . It was full of music, art, museums, hospitals, laboratories, and universities. And yet, in less than six years (a shorter time span than just two terms of the U. S. presidency) it was rounding up its own citizens, killing others, abrogating its laws, turning children against parents, and neighbors against neighbors.. All with the best of intentions, of course. The road to Hell is paved with them.


        “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have."

        Gerald Ford

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        • #5
          you know something spark, he is right....this is not good

          just hope ron paul gets to open up the feds book, then we can see where our tax money is going to..

          just kicking the can forward

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          • #6
            What if he was right is unfortunately wrong.....

            This was sent out to people via email as a right wing fear mongering tactic, as so many have been.

            If they can get you to fear or hate, then perhaps you will vote differently. Unfortunately, they should be trying to work together and give people hope for a turn around in our country.




            From Snopes.com

            snopes.com: Something of Historic Proportions Is Happening

            The Internet piece quoted above originally began circulating just after the U.S. presidential election of November 2008, and by March 2009 it had picked up an attribution crediting it to David Kaiser, a historian who has authored a number of books, including The Road to Dallas: The Assassination of John F. Kennedy. However, as Mr. Kaiser told us and notes in his blog, History Unfolding, he did not pen this piece:

            The first two sentences, beginning, "For the past thirty years," were of course written by me; the rest of the email was not written by me. Its views are in many ways the opposite of my own.

            KAZ
            [email protected]

            I'm just here so I won't get fined....

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            • #7
              Yes. This is all fear mongering at its best !!

              All those listed credentials are just 3rd world bungholery

              When he gets his Masters from ESPN U. , then he will be believed
              He who wears diaper knows his shit - Confucius

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              • #8
                Originally posted by KazDog View Post
                What if he was right is unfortunately wrong.....

                This was sent out to people via email as a right wing fear mongering tactic, as so many have been.

                If they can get you to fear or hate, then perhaps you will vote differently. Unfortunately, they should be trying to work together and give people hope for a turn around in our country.




                From Snopes.com

                snopes.com: Something of Historic Proportions Is Happening

                The Internet piece quoted above originally began circulating just after the U.S. presidential election of November 2008, and by March 2009 it had picked up an attribution crediting it to David Kaiser, a historian who has authored a number of books, including The Road to Dallas: The Assassination of John F. Kennedy. However, as Mr. Kaiser told us and notes in his blog, History Unfolding, he did not pen this piece:

                The first two sentences, beginning, "For the past thirty years," were of course written by me; the rest of the email was not written by me. Its views are in many ways the opposite of my own.

                KAZ


                i don't know this person, and really don't care. the message is what matters, and i agree with it.
                “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have."

                Gerald Ford

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                • #9
                  Anyone who simply closes his eyes and believes this is just fear and hate mongering from the right, is a friggin idiot, nothing more. The German population said and did the exact same thing, and look what they got! Only a socialist Marxist who look at the above post and shrug if off as nothing. These idiots probably voted for OBama themselves. And if you don't like when others speak the truth, too friggin bad.

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                  • #10
                    Any if you believe something that right wing propaganda machines wrongly attributed to THREE different people, just to get you to believe that garbage is true, is a friggin' idiot.

                    Rush, Hannity and Beck love people like you that gobble this kind of crap up!

                    Preach your hate and fear and desire for him to fail. You've got THREE long years of this to sulk about it.
                    [email protected]

                    I'm just here so I won't get fined....

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                    • #11
                      You right wing bastards you never give up . Cry and when that doesnot work you put out scare tactics .just like reagan bush and that sperm burber nixon all made their marks at. Give up obama won .hes american ans he isnot a socialist .but bush was a fascist with his side kick chenney . So put it to rest with this anti stuff and try to watch and listen to something other then fox news and that fat ass rush limbaugh

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by BOBBY5ACES View Post
                        You right wing bastards you never give up . Cry and when that doesnot work you put out scare tactics .just like reagan bush and that sperm burber nixon all made their marks at. Give up obama won .hes american ans he isnot a socialist .but bush was a fascist with his side kick chenney . So put it to rest with this anti stuff and try to watch and listen to something other then fox news and that fat ass rush limbaugh
                        Hey BOBBY ,, if you want to join in on the discussion feel free ... but leave the name calling out .. I have seen you do it before and it stops right here ...

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by BOBBY5ACES View Post
                          You right wing bastards you never give up . Cry and when that doesnot work you put out scare tactics .just like reagan bush and that sperm burber nixon all made their marks at. Give up obama won .hes american ans he isnot a socialist .but bush was a fascist with his side kick chenney . So put it to rest with this anti stuff and try to watch and listen to something other then fox news and that fat ass rush limbaugh
                          Maybe you need the government to send over some Mr. Clean and wipe away that grime on the TRANSPARENCY WINDOW.

                          Everyone is still in BLAME BUSH MODE

                          Where are your outcries of giving Brazil money to drill offshore and buying oil from them instead of using that money to drill here ??

                          Where are your outcries on all those closed door meetings on Job Creation without actually inviting those who account for most of the businesses in this country: SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS ??

                          Where is all the yelling when he said Electricity prices will explode with his Cap & Trade policy ??

                          Liberals cry out that our troops are being killed, yet they have no problems making sure Abortion clinics get money to do what ?? KILL

                          As much as Bush screwed alot of things up, the 1 thing that he NEVER did was stand at a podium time after time and place blame on anyone in a past administration for 9/11
                          He who wears diaper knows his shit - Confucius

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by KazDog View Post
                            Any if you believe something that right wing propaganda machines wrongly attributed to THREE different people, just to get you to believe that garbage is true, is a friggin' idiot.

                            Rush, Hannity and Beck love people like you that gobble this kind of crap up!

                            Preach your hate and fear and desire for him to fail. You've got THREE long years of this to sulk about it.


                            Doesnt matter kaz they hate obama....if unemployment goes down, the banking crisis is solved and the housing market picks up, and we dont get attacked,,,, they're going to hate him anyway.

                            Just think if something really does happen.


                            Jeez if these guys wouldve been this angry about iraq, banking crisis,9/11,katrina, housing melt down,wmds afghanisthan, mission accomplished

                            None of them said a DAMN thing.

                            But kaz they're angry as hell now
                            Last edited by musclemann; 12-03-2009, 07:58 PM.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by musclemann View Post
                              Doesnt matter kaz they hate obama....if unemployment goes down, the banking crisis is solved and the housing market picks up, and we dont get attacked,,,, they're going to hate him anyway.

                              REALLY!!! You think so huh???


                              But kaz their angry as hell

                              good reasons to be .. and so should you


                              ...........
                              Last edited by Spark; 12-03-2009, 08:03 PM.

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