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If we are so hated around the world, why does everyone want to come here????????????
I think its called FREEDOM. Get real Kaz.
I think its called FREEDOM. Get real Kaz.
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You got the FREE part right.Thats why everyone wants to come here cause it's free handout after free handout.Originally posted by flarendep1Comment
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If you don't think American's are disliked by Europeans and definitely by most of the people in the Middle East, then you are really clueless.Originally posted by flarendep1
They all want to come here for freedom? lmao....Gee, which countries aren't free? N. Korea, China, Cuba... That would leave somewhere around 190 countries that are free.
Who says they all want to come here? That's just an egotistical opinion. Of course there are a certain amount, but then every country has numbers wanting to live there.
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Do you still want to live here if McCain wins, many of the hollywood libs always threaten to leave when their candidates lose, why dont they??? NBA is a jokeComment
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Costs me 75. I am a registered Republican who doesnt vote along party lines either but I want to know exactly what 'CHANGE' this guy is talking about. He is great at reading from a teleprompter in a preacher like manner. He talks about this 'CHANGE' and how he will cross party lines to do so, yet if you look at his voting record from Illinois, he copped out by voting 'present' when others from 'across the aisle' presented bills to vote on because other Liberals were pressuring him to do so. doesnt sound like strong leadership to me.Originally posted by wayne1218
Bush, well Bush is Bush. Not the smartest rock on the planet
with a 30% approval rating, but how about that first 100 days of change the Liberals told everyone so they could get back into control of Congress?? 18% Approval 
Instead of ALL of these lifers(politicians) living off of our money and doing what THEY want, we need to be heard of what WE want.
Instead of spending time nailing sports entities about steroids, cheating, etc. how about using that time to investigate Wall Street on price manipulation practices on the commodities market. Speculators adding over 55 billion dollars into the oil futures market in 5 months hasnt boded well for us poor people at the pump.
These bastards dont care about our health care or gas whoas. THEY get FREE health care, FREE gas & FREE money from US. This is why we need to have 2 term limits for them as well as the President. 40 year life time politicians is just plain bullshit. Instead of these fuckers living the high life off of our money, let them go out & get real fucking jobs like we have & see how fast they start the bitching because costs are too high.
Both Parties can kiss my fucking nuts on a 100 degree dayHe who wears diaper knows his shit - ConfuciusComment
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Threatening to leave because your candidate didn't win is silly. I hadn't heard that. And no I wouldn't leave. However, there are several countries that would make a fine place to live. The president is only a small part to the overall political picture.
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No
Fuckin way will i vote for him 
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i'm a perfect 4-0 in presidential elections. I voted for clinton and bush for both terms.... This year, i'm going for obama. Might as well post here as the play of the year. I'm not a Repub or Dem. I just call it the way i see it!Comment
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At least you picked one decent President in your 4.Originally posted by The LovedocComment
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I posted what's below to the wrong thread last week and wanted to move it here. I don't think less of anyone for whomever they are supporting. It seems to me, though, that a very high percentage of the Obama backers support him because "we need change". Hell, I agree, but I'd be more inclined to change my views if they could tell me what he's going to change and how he's gonna do it....without bankrupting not just the federal government but the citizens as well. My two cents FWIW:
There's little question that GWB has been an awful President. The fact is, our entire national political system is so systemically flawed that it's impossible for us to ever elect a truly independent, rational thinking person to the Office. The costs associated with running a successful national campaign are so mind boggling that anyone who would be elected (and yes, including Obama) will, on the inauguration day, be indebted to some special interests (plural) and will ultimately repay the favors. IMHO, neither of our choices in November are worth a crap. In light of that, I'm looking for the one of these two jokers who will do the least harm.
I admire and respect John McCain for his service to the Country but on a Presidential level, he is a one trick pony (national security). How "confused" does a Presidential candidate have to be to state in his campaign that "I don't know a lot about the economy"? Duh! But, I do believe that if he were elected, he would fill his cabinet and Staff with people who do understand the issues that he doesn't.
On my scorecard, McCain is one trick pony ahead of Obama. Come on..this guy hasn't even served a full term in the Senate and he's qualified to lead the free world? Look, I admire Obama as an orator and his charisma cannot be questioned. Buth, then again, there have been many other very charasmatic leaders throughout history. If you google "charasmatic leaders" you'll hit on such names as JFK, Ronald Reagan, Ghandi, and Bill Clinton. But, also on that list are Fidel Castro, S. Hussein, Osama Ben Laden, and Adolph Hitler. (If you're tempted to accuse me of comparing Obama to Hitler, just grow up). My point is this. Charisma is a desirable trait, but it is neither inherently good nor bad. Charisma is a great trait if one is trying to sell his listeners on a good idea or policy. It can be a very dangerous thing if one is promoting bad ideas. The point I'm trying to make is that charisma or public speaking abilities should not be significantly determinant in who wins a Presidential election.
I have a bit of a hard time getting a handle on Obama's specific policy ideas because he has been so slow in publicly disclosing them. I spend a lot of time dealing with 20 somethings, most of whom support Obama. It continues to amaze me when I ask them what it is about Obama that they like. Easily, the two most common responses are "I like the way he's going to unify the Country. He will bring the Country together, and he'll change Washington". I remind them that lemmings, too, are a very unified breed...right up until the time they go over the cliff The second most common answer really surprises me. "I just think it's time we had an African-American President". Now these are white kids I'm talking about. But no, race is not an issue in this election. These kids' lack of any clue about what his Administration's policies might be just leaves me shaking my head. I suppose something my father said to me 40 years ago really is true. "If you're young and not liberal, you have no heart. If you're old and not conservative, you have no brain".
It's taken a long time to get to my basic point, and I know I've digressed, but here it is. I am a CPA / economist and have spent my career dealing with taxes and the economy. What pieces of Obama's economic policies he has discussed scare the hell out of me...and they should you too, regardless of your own income levels and economic stations. The historic Democratic position with respect to taxes and the economy is accurately described as fiscal liberalism (an Obama is the most liberal of them all). Their unspoken stance is that the American people are not capable of taking care of anything for themselves, so it is imperative that the federal government do it for them. In the interest of balance and fairness, it should be stated that during the GWB Administration, the Republican Party has taken the same position, so going back to my first point, we don't have any good choices here.
Obama will spend us even further to death, but even he realizes that he'll have to find some way to pay for a fraction (and that's all it would be is a fraction) of what will undoubtedly be a monster increase in entitlement spending.
So you know, I am NOT wealthy and I don't make a ton of money so my taxes wouldn't go up dramatically as a result of Obama's tax increases. But, that sure as hell doesn't mean that his plans to double the cap gains rate, increase the maximum marginal tax rates, and eliminate the cap on Social Security wages isn't a horrible idea for the Country, and for its citizens as a whole. It is a verifiable fact that EVERY time in modern history Congress has raised the tax rate on capital gains, the economy has gone into a recession within 18 months. YES, I do know that we're already in a recession and not one caused by a tax hike, but the point is that such an increase ALWAYS has a negative impact in the national economy. I can't imagine a worse time to enact such a change.
Even those people who have never paid capital gains tax in their lives are not insulated from the effects of such a policy. Whether its acknowledged or not, the people that Obama considers "wealthy" are the primary force that drives our economy. They create the new jobs...and, when their income declines, they eliminate existing jobs. The very idea of increasing taxes on the financially successful members of our society to "redistribute" this wealth to the less successful is, in our ultra PC society, now referred to as "restoring the middle class". In days gone by, people just called it "Socialism". Socialism (in its most refined form, known as "Marxism") and Capitalism are competing and mutually exclusive social ideologies. As lousy as our economy is right now, since there has never been a long-term sustainable Socialist society, I think I'll stick with what we've got. If his taxation ideas are indicative of the "way we're going to change Washington", I think I'll pass.
One more thought on the fact that neither of our two choices are any good. No question, we will have a Democratic House and Senate after November. The only thing scarier to me than an Obama in the White House is an Obama in the White House with only a rubber stamp in Congress. Given the poor choices we have available to us, I can honestly say that if the Congress were going to be Republican I might very well vote for Obama. A federal government that does NOTHING, in my view, would be preferable to one that does nothing RIGHT. In closing, CUT THE FEDERAL SPENDING... IN ENTITLEMENTS, IN IRAQ, AND EVERYWHERE ELSE... BEFORE RAISING ANYBODY'S TAXES ONE CENT.
If I were booking bets, I'd make the following prop:
If Obama is elected, between election day and the end of the year, the Dow will lose ___%. I make the O/U 35%.
Investors having unrealized gains will sell those stocks in order to preserve the 15% tax rate on their gains as opposed to paying 30% after Barack takes office. The massive sell / buy imbalance will produce a sell off that will rival Black Monday in '87...I'm not such an alarmist that I think we'll revisit '29, but you never know.Comment
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Here's what's funny, we have George W. Bush in there right now, and you're acting as if the President makes crucial decisions. Don't worry about Obama's lack of experience, he'll surround himself with smart people.Comment
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Reverend Wright? J/K Bigs
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the fact that the love doc is on obama is enough for me to vote mccain
Questions, comments, complaints:
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Plus Obama won't put his lobbyist buddies in there like McCain will. Or 2 bit crooks like McCain will. Also Obama was a Junior Senator in Illinois for 7 or 8 years.Originally posted by BigWeinerComment
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