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    (CNN) -- Berkeley, the famously liberal college town in California, has taken aim at Marine recruiters, saying they are "not welcome in our city."

    Republican lawmakers in Washington fired back this week, threatening to take back more than $2 million of federal funding to the city as well as money designated for the University of California-Berkeley, the campus that became a haven of protests during the Vietnam War.

    The battle erupted after the Berkeley City Council approved a measure last week urging the Marine recruiters to leave their downtown office.

    "If recruiters choose to stay, they do so as uninvited and unwelcome intruders," the item says.

    It goes on to say the council applauds residents and organizations that "volunteer to impede, passively or actively, by nonviolent means, the work of any military recruiting office located in the City of Berkeley."

    Outside the Shattuck Avenue recruiting station earlier this week, a handful of protesters with the anti-war group Code Pink camped out, strumming a guitar as they sang anti-war songs and held signs against the Iraq war.

    "Time to end the war, time to end the war, time to end the war right now," they sang to the beat of "I've Been Working on the Railroad."

    One giant sign said, "No Military Predators in Our Town." Another message on a pink placard read, "Join the Marines. Travel to Exotic Lands. Meet Exciting and Unusual People -- And Kill Them."

    Zanne Joi peered out from under her straw hat. "This Marine recruiting station is trying to recruit our youth to go to Iraq to kill and be killed. And we are against that," said Joi, a member of Code Pink Women for Peace.

    "This is part of a multi-pronged effort to end this war."

    Protester Sharon Adams added: "This recruiting station recruits people to go fight and then once they fight and they serve their country, our country doesn't take care of them. That's a shame."

    But not everyone here supports the protesters.

    Forrest Smith, who described himself as a veteran of U.S. Special Forces, said his son recently returned from a tour in Iraq and his daughter served in Afghanistan.

    "My position on this is the Marines are the best thing we have," said Smith, decked out in Army fatigues.

    He blasted the City Council for its action. "It's clearly an abuse of power."

    A group of young students who strolled down the sidewalk shared that sentiment. They derided one of the protesters who argued the United States was involved in an illegal war in Iraq.

    "Where's the logic in that whatsoever?" one of the young men said. "That's our national security, and you're here protesting the Marines."

    Another said, "It makes me sick. It makes me sick."

    Gunnery Sgt. Pauline Franklin, a spokeswoman for the Marine Corps Recruiting Command, told CNN there is "no plan for that office to move."

    She said recruiters are there to "provide information to qualified men and women who are looking for opportunities that they may benefit from by serving in the military."

    "The Marine Corps is here to support and defend the Constitution of the United States, which does guarantee the freedom of speech," Franklin said. "In terms of the situation in Berkeley, the City Council and the protesters are exercising their right to do so."

    In Washington, a group of Republican lawmakers have introduced the Semper Fi Act of 2008 -- named after the Marine motto -- to rescind more than $2 million of funds for Berkeley and transfer it to the Marine Corps.

    "Like most Americans, I really get disturbed when taxpayer money goes to institutions which proceed to take votes, make policy or make statements that really denigrate the military," said Sen. David Vitter, R-Louisiana, a co-sponsor of the bill.

    He told CNN he believes the bill will pass. "I think it's going to have significant support."

    The bill's co-sponsor, Sen. Jim DeMint, R-South Carolina, said in a written statement, "Berkeley needs to learn that their actions have consequences."

    Berkeley's declaration, which was introduced by the city's Peace and Justice Commission, accuses the United States of having a history of "launching illegal, immoral and unprovoked wars of aggression and the Bush administration launched the most recent of those wars in Iraq and is threatening the possibility of war in Iran."

    It adds, "Military recruiters are salespeople known to lie to and seduce minors and young adults into contracting themselves into military service with false promises regarding jobs, job training, education and other benefits."

    Out on Shattuck Avenue, it appears the protesters have no plans to leave anytime soon. "We are the civilian population; we control the military," Adams said. "We the people have to take back our control of the military."

    CNN's Jim Castel and Peter Ornstein contributed to this story from Berkeley, and CNN's Dick Uliano contributed from Washington.

  • #2
    Looks like Berkley is a good spot for an Al Quada training base.
    NBA is a joke

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    • #3
      These

      people are Democrats- and u want them running the country-God Forbid

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      • #4
        Originally posted by shoeman530
        (CNN) "My position on this is the Marines are the best thing we have," said Smith, decked out in Army fatigues.

        .
        Gee, conflict of interest....Who is this guy and who gives a shit...
        Shoeman, stay out of Cali, man...It's a hotbed.... You'll have to deal with the 2 biggest problems in America right now over there....Political dissent and mexicans.... Do you know how much better our lives would be without this shit? It's like Brittany Spears said,"uh, like, I just think we should trust our president and everything he's doing right now............" I couldn't agree more, you?

        And as far as vietnam goes 60% of the men killed in Vietnam were under 21. Only 2% were college graduates. 75% of those killed were lower middle class or from families living below the poverty level. The result of the Vietnam War was not only 58,000 dead Americans, but 1 million North Vietnamese soldiers, 2 million Vietnamese civilians with another 4 million wounded. That wasn'tgood enough for ya, was it?
        We used three times as much weapons and amunition on Vietnam than we did in all theaters of war in World War II. So don't feed me that bullshit about fighting that war with our hands tied behind our back, I understand that you think we should have instituted a full scale ground invasion into North Vietnam and on to China with American deaths (other than you) in the hundreds of thousands. Or we should have dropped hydrogen bombs throughout Southeast Asia. Shame on those kids at Berkeley for protesting.

        1984
        Last edited by Celtics86; 02-08-2008, 03:42 PM.

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        • #5
          Senator David Vitter is sponsering the bill in congress.....He's a solid fella.....Another republican warhawk that DID NOT SERVE...... but theres more, wait...

          Washington Post Staff Writer
          Tuesday, July 10, 2007; Page A03

          Sen. David Vitter (R-La.) apologized last night after his telephone number appeared in the phone records of the woman dubbed the "D.C. Madam," making him the first member of Congress to become ensnared in the high-profile case.

          The statement containing Vitter's apology said his telephone number was included on phone records of Pamela Martin and Associates dating from before he ran for the Senate in 2004.

          .................................................. .................................................. ........

          Surprise, the D.C. Madame goes to jail, nothing happens to the Senator....This guy was preceded in his congressional seat by Bob Livingston, the hypocrite that impeached Bill Clinton, then resigned months later because of an affair that came to light..... Before that, Vitter served in the state House.........Guess who preceded him in that seat (district)...............................Yep, David Duke.
          What a bunch of fucking hypocritical bastards. "But he's a good man because he supports our military and claims Jesus Christ to be his lord and savior....."

          1984
          Last edited by Celtics86; 02-08-2008, 04:03 PM.

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          • #6
            I didn't know this about him, courtesy of wiki.....


            Vitter advocated abstinence-only sex education, emphasizing abstinence while excluding issues involving birth control and safe sex.[32] He said, "Abstinence education is a public health strategy focused on risk avoidance that aims to help young people avoid exposure to harm...by teaching teenagers that saving sex until marriage and remaining faithful afterwards is the best choice for health and happiness."[33]

            .

            I wish I could laugh at the hypocracy.
            1984

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Celtics86
              Gee, conflict of interest....Who is this guy and who gives a shit...
              Shoeman, stay out of Cali, man...It's a hotbed.... You'll have to deal with the 2 biggest problems in America right now over there....Political dissent and mexicans.... Do you know how much better our lives would be without this shit? It's like Brittany Spears said,"uh, like, I just think we should trust our president and everything he's doing right now............" I couldn't agree more, you?

              And as far as vietnam goes 60% of the men killed in Vietnam were under 21. Only 2% were college graduates. 75% of those killed were lower middle class or from families living below the poverty level. The result of the Vietnam War was not only 58,000 dead Americans, but 1 million North Vietnamese soldiers, 2 million Vietnamese civilians with another 4 million wounded. That wasn'tgood enough for ya, was it?
              We used three times as much weapons and amunition on Vietnam than we did in all theaters of war in World War II. So don't feed me that bullshit about fighting that war with our hands tied behind our back, I understand that you think we should have instituted a full scale ground invasion into North Vietnam and on to China with American deaths (other than you) in the hundreds of thousands. Or we should have dropped hydrogen bombs throughout Southeast Asia. Shame on those kids at Berkeley for protesting.

              1984


              Where in my post did I mention anything about my beliefs on the topics? You are entitled to your opinion (as is everyone else) but do not direct them toward me in this manner as you have no idea what my thoughts are on the sybject. I was posting the article for eveyone else becasue I thought it was interesting...

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              • #8
                Originally posted by shoeman530
                (CNN) -- Berkeley, the famously liberal college town in California, has taken aim at Marine recruiters, saying they are "not welcome in our city."

                Republican lawmakers in Washington fired back this week, threatening to take back more than $2 million of federal funding to the city as well as money designated for the University of California-Berkeley, the campus that became a haven of protests during the Vietnam War.

                The battle erupted after the Berkeley City Council approved a measure last week urging the Marine recruiters to leave their downtown office.

                "If recruiters choose to stay, they do so as uninvited and unwelcome intruders," the item says.

                It goes on to say the council applauds residents and organizations that "volunteer to impede, passively or actively, by nonviolent means, the work of any military recruiting office located in the City of Berkeley."

                Outside the Shattuck Avenue recruiting station earlier this week, a handful of protesters with the anti-war group Code Pink camped out, strumming a guitar as they sang anti-war songs and held signs against the Iraq war.

                "Time to end the war, time to end the war, time to end the war right now," they sang to the beat of "I've Been Working on the Railroad."

                One giant sign said, "No Military Predators in Our Town." Another message on a pink placard read, "Join the Marines. Travel to Exotic Lands. Meet Exciting and Unusual People -- And Kill Them."

                Zanne Joi peered out from under her straw hat. "This Marine recruiting station is trying to recruit our youth to go to Iraq to kill and be killed. And we are against that," said Joi, a member of Code Pink Women for Peace.

                "This is part of a multi-pronged effort to end this war."

                Protester Sharon Adams added: "This recruiting station recruits people to go fight and then once they fight and they serve their country, our country doesn't take care of them. That's a shame."

                But not everyone here supports the protesters.

                Forrest Smith, who described himself as a veteran of U.S. Special Forces, said his son recently returned from a tour in Iraq and his daughter served in Afghanistan.

                "My position on this is the Marines are the best thing we have," said Smith, decked out in Army fatigues.

                He blasted the City Council for its action. "It's clearly an abuse of power."

                A group of young students who strolled down the sidewalk shared that sentiment. They derided one of the protesters who argued the United States was involved in an illegal war in Iraq.

                "Where's the logic in that whatsoever?" one of the young men said. "That's our national security, and you're here protesting the Marines."

                Another said, "It makes me sick. It makes me sick."

                Gunnery Sgt. Pauline Franklin, a spokeswoman for the Marine Corps Recruiting Command, told CNN there is "no plan for that office to move."

                She said recruiters are there to "provide information to qualified men and women who are looking for opportunities that they may benefit from by serving in the military."

                "The Marine Corps is here to support and defend the Constitution of the United States, which does guarantee the freedom of speech," Franklin said. "In terms of the situation in Berkeley, the City Council and the protesters are exercising their right to do so."

                In Washington, a group of Republican lawmakers have introduced the Semper Fi Act of 2008 -- named after the Marine motto -- to rescind more than $2 million of funds for Berkeley and transfer it to the Marine Corps.

                "Like most Americans, I really get disturbed when taxpayer money goes to institutions which proceed to take votes, make policy or make statements that really denigrate the military," said Sen. David Vitter, R-Louisiana, a co-sponsor of the bill.

                He told CNN he believes the bill will pass. "I think it's going to have significant support."

                The bill's co-sponsor, Sen. Jim DeMint, R-South Carolina, said in a written statement, "Berkeley needs to learn that their actions have consequences."

                Berkeley's declaration, which was introduced by the city's Peace and Justice Commission, accuses the United States of having a history of "launching illegal, immoral and unprovoked wars of aggression and the Bush administration launched the most recent of those wars in Iraq and is threatening the possibility of war in Iran."

                It adds, "Military recruiters are salespeople known to lie to and seduce minors and young adults into contracting themselves into military service with false promises regarding jobs, job training, education and other benefits."

                Out on Shattuck Avenue, it appears the protesters have no plans to leave anytime soon. "We are the civilian population; we control the military," Adams said. "We the people have to take back our control of the military."

                CNN's Jim Castel and Peter Ornstein contributed to this story from Berkeley, and CNN's Dick Uliano contributed from Washington.
                We dont want a dominant military, we want a 1 world Govt., and a 1 world Army....

                Signed,
                Gore, Clinton, Monte
                jordanrules..................

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                • #9
                  I have a feeling I'd be in jail for assaulting and battering a bunch of liberal pansy asses if I lived in Berkely

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Celtics86
                    Gee, conflict of interest....Who is this guy and who gives a shit...
                    Shoeman, stay out of Cali, man...It's a hotbed.... You'll have to deal with the 2 biggest problems in America right now over there....Political dissent and mexicans.... Do you know how much better our lives would be without this shit? It's like Brittany Spears said,"uh, like, I just think we should trust our president and everything he's doing right now............" I couldn't agree more, you?

                    And as far as vietnam goes 60% of the men killed in Vietnam were under 21. Only 2% were college graduates. 75% of those killed were lower middle class or from families living below the poverty level. The result of the Vietnam War was not only 58,000 dead Americans, but 1 million North Vietnamese soldiers, 2 million Vietnamese civilians with another 4 million wounded. That wasn'tgood enough for ya, was it?
                    We used three times as much weapons and amunition on Vietnam than we did in all theaters of war in World War II. So don't feed me that bullshit about fighting that war with our hands tied behind our back, I understand that you think we should have instituted a full scale ground invasion into North Vietnam and on to China with American deaths (other than you) in the hundreds of thousands. Or we should have dropped hydrogen bombs throughout Southeast Asia. Shame on those kids at Berkeley for protesting.

                    1984

                    viet nam solved a lot didnt it?

                    then you have morons like the one above saying something about them democrats. Another nobel winner.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by kbsooner21
                      I have a feeling I'd be in jail for assaulting and battering a bunch of liberal pansy asses if I lived in Berkely
                      isnt that the truth.....How in the World could someone go to bed being a liberal? If i was the GOVT i would cut off all federal money that goes to that city......
                      jordanrules..................

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by jordanrules23
                        We dont want a dominant military, we want a 1 world Govt., and a 1 world Army....

                        Signed,
                        Gore, Clinton, Monte

                        you got the address douche now cmon down. Im showing up early (@4pm)

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by kbsooner21
                          I have a feeling I'd be in jail for assaulting and battering a bunch of liberal pansy asses if I lived in Berkely
                          You would never live in Berkely because they don't have trailer parks there....

                          KAZ
                          [email protected]

                          I'm just here so I won't get fined....

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                          • #14
                            Last I heard they are now reconsidering their position. I think it was due to someone in congress talking about cutting off the federal funds to them.

                            You can have everything about California, I don't need it. Beautiful place to visit, but I wouldn't live there for free. Crazy libs, mudslides, earthquakes, wildfires, hollywood, illegals, etc. etc.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by kbsooner21
                              I have a feeling I'd be in jail for assaulting and battering a bunch of liberal pansy asses if I lived in Berkely
                              jc Wishes He Can Get A Goat

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