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  • #16
    Originally posted by BigWeiner View Post
    My opinion is Cano isn't a Miguel Cabrera, paying him that is insane and they are way better off with more quality players than just him. Ellsbury and McCann are great players, maybe not Cano, but close enough. They definitely would not win the division next year if they resigned Cano and nothing else. They need more.
    Cano is a hell of a lot closer to a 24 million player than Ellsbury is to a 22 million player. It's NOT EVEN CLOSE. Go look at the numbers.

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    • #17
      Look at the stats for the last 5 years. Ellsbury and his numbers look like a minor league player next to Cano's. It's a joke!

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      • #18
        Ellsbury is a leadoff hitter, and Cano bats third, for starters, so of course Cano is going to have more rbis. You're trying to discard, the 3 years and $75 that Cano will get paid when hes 39-40-41. Like fucking Jim Thome. They signed McCann for $85. When ARod got his first 10 year contract it made some sense because he was young, the second was a joke, so was Pujols' contract last year, and so is this one. Compare Pujols numbers with Cano. They didn't sign Ellsbury to let Cano go by the way, they wanted both, but Cano got a ridiculous contract, so let him go. Smart business move. I'm sure they're bummed he wouldn't take a reasonable contract. They offered him $25 mill a year, just didn't want Jim Thome playing 2B at 39 hitting 10 hrs a season.

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        • #19
          BW, Cano and Ellsbury are 11 months apart in age. I could care less about years 8, 9 and 10 for Cano. He will run fuckin laps around Jacoby in those 1st 7 years and I DH him in the last 3. He has played 159+ games in each of the last 5 seasons and he has shown to be extremely durable, unlike his counterpart Ellsbury who has missed 274 games in that same 5 year period. What happens when you are paying Ellsbury and he isn't even playing? In 7 years Cano will probably play 1-2 seasons more than Ellsbury which again means, no brainer on the extra 2 million per and the 3 years added. Everyone worries about 3 extra years but those won't matter once you've seen how he ran laps around Ellsbury in the 1st 7. Jacoby has hit 10 HR's once in his career and over 60 RBI's once too. I don't care if he is a leadoff hitter or not. That basically only matters to start a game anyway and no leadoff hitter should get that money. A guy like Cano that has 25+ HR's and 85+ RBI's in each of the last 5 years while also hitting .314/.313/.302/.319/.320 in that span, is a hell of a lot closer to what he is getting paid at 24 than Ells is at 22. Ellsbury has 1 thing, speed. And that will be the 1st thing to go as he ages.

          I'm somewhat shocked we are even debating who is more worthy of a 22 & 24 million contract. It seriously isn't even close. That's not opinion either, it's based on what they have and have not done on the field.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by BigWeiner View Post
            Seattle needed to do something, but unless they make two other huge moves, like sign Choo and trade for Price, they're not gonna compete in the AL West.
            I don't know how it will work out for the Yankees until all of the deals are done(imo the Yankees will keep on spending), but I think from the Mariners point of view, signing Cano for as much as they did and for as long as they did was abject stupidity.
            Unless as you say they go out and get a number of complement this signing, they won't be much of a playoff threat in the foreseeable future.
            Thank God the Sox have a GM with a brain and a sense of valuations and overall balance!

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            • #21
              Originally posted by BigWeiner View Post
              Yankees will get Beltran for 3 years $50 mill, and more, just watch. They'll be fine
              Nostradumbass

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