New England/Ravens Info

[wayne1218]

You hear what you want to hear raven. It is broken down pretty well in post 22 for all to make their own assessment.

[3rdmckid]

No, of course, but when you have a defense that has a history of causing turnovers and that is part of their specialties that it matters but what I am saying bottom line is that the bills were very lucky in most games that they won. I am not going to lie, at the time I was excited but they starting losing game loooooong before Jackson got hurt and they were winning despite how they were playing.

[3rdmckid]

Since you guys have such strong opinions I would love to hear if you guys think one team or the other can match up player to player, because the pats smacking the broncos was due to the mismatches and game plan execution.....thats the meat of it so please continue to help us all win next week with your insights.....thanks iin advance and bol to both !

[roccodean]

Line before Div games on this contest was NE -3.5 (hilton in Vegas). After 60 minutes of football they adjusted it 4 points. Classic over adjustment based on public perception (NE blowout, Balt looked bad). Have to take Ravens simply on line value.

[3rdmckid]

If that point is supported throughtout the week by public betting then that is my direction also rocco......thanks for your work here !!!

[roccodean]

If that point is supported throughtout the week by public betting then that is my direction also rocco......thanks for your work here !!!

As of right now 70% on NE

[ravenmaniac]

This is my first impression of this match-up. First up Houston has a hell of a defense and a hell of a running game. The only reason they won is because Schaub was out. Had he played I think the Ravens would have lost. In all honesty looking back the Ravens were very lucky to have won the game. However the Pats present a whole different challeng. First off New England has no running game to speak of unlike the Texans. When Aaron Hernandez is your leading rusher that say it all. Thus I think you are gonna see the Ravens come up with some exotic schemes to cover Gronk and Hernandez. I think our DB Webb can handle Welker on his own. I think it boils down to how much pressure they get on Brady. They need to do to Brady what the 49ers did to Brees. Even if they don't sack him they need to make him uncomfortable. The last 2 times the Ravens played N.E. they beat them in the 09 playoffs and lost in overtime last year 23-20 after blowing a 20-10 lead in the 4th quarter. So their recent history would say them match up well against them. The question is how much can the Ravens offense score against the Pats defense. I think the Ravens are gonna try to run the ball down their throats with Ray Rice. Flacco is so inconsistent its hard to get a feel for what he can do. However he rarely has 2 bad games in a row so I would expect some improvement from what he did yesterday. Besides the Texans defense is much better than the Pats defense. Trying to be objective I doubt very much if I am gonna bet this game but gun to my head I think the line is inflated based only on the 2 games this weekend. I really thought the line would be closer to 4 than 7. Right now I think the value is with the Ravens.

One last thing to consider. The Ravens love it when they are underdogs and everyone says they have no chance of winning. Other than yesterday they have played their best games against their best opponents (Pitt. both games, Houston, and 49ers) Where they struggled this year has been on the road against average to below average teams (Titans, Seattle and Jags). However the Ravens have played a shitload of games (12) against teams with top 10 defenses and went 10-2. The Pats certainly aren't defensively in the same league as many of their opponents. My gut feeling is this is going to be a lot closer than a lot of people think based on the 2 games this weekend.

[Letswinalot]

Ravenmaniac is having pride in his team like I was the other day.

Anyway the Ravens are not the Giants the Ravens will lose this game by 3-4 points. I like ravens Plus points, but Flacco on road has been disaster all year.

[diesel]

This is my first impression of this match-up. First up Houston has a hell of a defense and a hell of a running game. The only reason they won is because Schaub was out. Had he played I think the Ravens would have lost. In all honesty looking back the Ravens were very lucky to have won the game. However the Pats present a whole different challeng. First off New England has no running game to speak of unlike the Texans. When Aaron Hernandez is your leading rusher that say it all. Thus I think you are gonna see the Ravens come up with some exotic schemes to cover Gronk and Hernandez. I think our DB Webb can handle Welker on his own. I think it boils down to how much pressure they get on Brady. They need to do to Brady what the 49ers did to Brees. Even if they don't sack him they need to make him uncomfortable. The last 2 times the Ravens played N.E. they beat them in the 09 playoffs and lost in overtime last year 23-20 after blowing a 20-10 lead in the 4th quarter. So their recent history would say them match up well against them. The question is how much can the Ravens offense score against the Pats defense. I think the Ravens are gonna try to run the ball down their throats with Ray Rice. Flacco is so inconsistent its hard to get a feel for what he can do. However he rarely has 2 bad games in a row so I would expect some improvement from what he did yesterday. Besides the Texans defense is much better than the Pats defense. Trying to be objective I doubt very much if I am gonna bet this game but gun to my head I think the line is inflated based only on the 2 games this weekend. I really thought the line would be closer to 4 than 7. Right now I think the value is with the Ravens.

One last thing to consider. The Ravens love it when they are underdogs and everyone says they have no chance of winning. Other than yesterday they have played their best games against their best opponents (Pitt. both games, Houston, and 49ers) Where they struggled this year has been on the road against average to below average teams (Titans, Seattle and Jags). However the Ravens have played a shitload of games (12) against teams with top 10 defenses and went 10-2. The Pats certainly aren't defensively in the same league as many of their opponents. My gut feeling is this is going to be a lot closer than a lot of people think based on the 2 games this weekend.

Great assessment on the game Raven you are right the Pats D is not the Texans D and Flacco does tend to bounce back after a bad game. Like I said last might I think they have a great chance to win. New England is the last of these high powered offenses left that plays no D. I think Rice has a big game and they might be able to control the clock and keep it away from Brady.

[diesel]

Ravenmaniac is having pride in his team like I was the other day.

Anyway the Ravens are not the Giants the Ravens will lose this game by 3-4 points. I like ravens Plus points, but Flacco on road has been disaster all year.

LWA since when are you a Giants fan? I smell a band wagon jumper

[Letswinalot]

LWA since when are you a Giants fan? I smell a band wagon jumper

Since I was 6 years old. Im from Tennessee we had no pro team. Im a true fan. All of my fantasy teams were named Giants4Life.

[wayne1218]

As of right now 70% on NE

I see 63%-65% on Baltimore

[Letswinalot]

Diesel hatred out again.

[diesel]

[QUOTE=Letswinalot;1962541]Diesel hatred out again.

Now don't be that way LWA just was pointing out you seem to root for teams that all of a sudden are winning Alabama, Giants etc

[Letswinalot]

[QUOTE=diesel;1962544]

Diesel hatred out again.

Now don't be that way LWA just was pointing out you seem to root for teams that all of a sudden are winning Alabama, Giants etc

I fucking hate Alabama, but liked them the other day when they were winning me money. You're just confused. Who are the etc. teams? Im Vols fan, Pistons fan, Giants fan, Braves fan. Sort of liking OKC may jump on that bandwagon because I need someone to stop the Heat, because I hate Lebron so bad.