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  • Originally posted by frankb03 View Post
    Why? This is a forum where we express our opinions and vent about players, refs etc. ESPN rams it down our throats 24 hours a day on multiple stations. Are they out of line?

    I'd rather have threads like this that generate a discussion than the endless "GL" responses. Those responses are only about post count. When a member posts GLs in 10 or more different threads in 2 minutes we know the poster is not taking the time to read the thread.
    I would agree that my statement wrong...it isn't 'out of line' but what I should have typed was 'the repeated whining about fixes and select calls can get tiresome'....
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    • Originally posted by insidethe8thpol View Post
      GL today Frank













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      I'm just here so I won't get fined....

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      • Let's continue the whining. How can anyone watch NBA basketball. No other sport has more phantom calls. Guys drive to the basket they don't even get touched by the defender and the ref blows the whistle assuming they'll be a foul.

        Within minutes of turning the game on I had to change the channel. NBA basketball is unwatchable.

        HORRIBLE!

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        • Originally posted by frankb03 View Post
          Let's continue the whining. How can anyone watch NBA basketball. No other sport has more phantom calls. Guys drive to the basket they don't even get touched by the defender and the ref blows the whistle assuming they'll be a foul.

          Within minutes of turning the game on I had to change the channel. NBA basketball is unwatchable.

          HORRIBLE!
          Exact same thing I have been saying for a long time Frank ... I can not stand to watch it so I don't ...

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          • Originally posted by frankb03 View Post
            Let's continue the whining. How can anyone watch NBA basketball. No other sport has more phantom calls. Guys drive to the basket they don't even get touched by the defender and the ref blows the whistle assuming they'll be a foul.

            Within minutes of turning the game on I had to change the channel. NBA basketball is unwatchable.

            HORRIBLE!
            Originally posted by Spark View Post
            Exact same thing I have been saying for a long time Frank ... I can not stand to watch it so I don't ...
            Couldnt agree more that league is not sport. It just baffles me how so many people on this forum can watch that trash and yet call themselves "sports" fans. Any real sports fan would be able to differientiate between what is a quality sports game/league and what is not like NBA....
            SOBER SINCE MARCH 28TH OF 2007!!!

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            • Originally posted by Chado1 View Post
              Couldnt agree more that league is not sport. It just baffles me how so many people on this forum can watch that trash and yet call themselves "sports" fans. Any real sports fan would be able to differientiate between what is a quality sports game/league and what is not like NBA....
              The rule that really kills me is the 'call a timeout, get rewarded by advancing the ball 66 feet without dribbling'.

              The other is the backcourt rule (and this goes for college too). If you do not advance the ball over the halfcourt line in 10 seconds (NBA 8 sec) it is a violation. Once you pass the line and the ball goes back over the line, it is a violation. Now, once a team is over the line and they call a timeout, ball is knocked out of bounds or a foul (non shooting) is called the team takes the ball out and is allowed to throw the ball into the backcourt. Which I think is bullshit. How do you penalize the defensive team by allowing the offensive team to throw the ball backcourt when the offensive team has already established possession at their basket?? If it is a violation when the ball crosses back over the line after the offensive team established possession whats the difference when they are taking the ball out of bounds??
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              • IT'S 'OFFICIAL': ZEBRAS A JOKE - New York Post

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                • WERE you as mystified as I was by Ben Gordon's 2-point field goal early in Game 7 (Bulls-Celtics) being upgraded to a 3-pointer in the fourth quarter? Though a mistake had been righted, NBA law clearly prohibits such a change unless executed after the first timeout following the shot.

                  Has TNT's army of analysts ever provided us with a plausible explanation for the rule-breaking decision by the three referees who had received executive permission?

                  The above confusion was compounded in Game 5 (Celtics-Magic) when Ray Allen's toe-on-the-arc second quarter (3:33) 2-pointer was incorrectly judged to be a trifecta. If the league had sanctioned crew chief (huh?) Monty McCutchen, Mike Callahan and Bill Spooner to make a similar reversal, Dwight Howard's second free throw with time running out of the bottle (five seconds) would've been for a 89-89 tie; instead, the Magic trailed 90-88 and he was forced to miss intentionally in hopes of recovering the rebound.

                  So, aside from the refs' blunder altering the game's dynamics and affecting Orlando's strategy as its players were coming unhinged psychologically in the final 5½ minutes, there weren't any major ramifications.

                  Of course, the Magic's cause might've been bolstered a bit had this clueless crew gotten the Celtics' 24-second violation accurate. There were 36 seconds left when Rajon Rondo was forced to heave up a three that grazed nothing but net. The initial call was accurate. However, after huddling with his two partners, McCutchen, as crew chief (huh?) overruled.



                  From what I've been able to ascertain, there was no trigger, no reason, other than the doubt of three abundantly uncertain officials that would've allowed them to review the shot on replay.

                  So, since Kendrick Perkins had lucked into the rebound, the Celtics regained a possession they maintained for 52 straight seconds (two misses, two offensive boards), concluding in an Eddie House free throw (87-85) with eight ticks remaining.

                  By the time these playoffs are finished, referees will be responsible for more wins than the eventual champion.

                  Nonetheless, I'm sure it's comforting to the Magic to learn why the refs were permitted to inflate Gordon's field goal but forbidden to reduce Allen's.

                  A league office official yesterday was kind enough to clarify:

                  "The play involving Ray Allen's 3-pointer was a judgment call by the officials. The period in which the officials are allowed to review had passed, so it was no longer reviewable later in the game."

                  The Game 7 three was indeed reviewed within the time period after the play. Hence the comment issued at the time in response to the change:

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                  • Everyone who said they thought it hit the rim is either blind, stupid, or a cetic fan or had money on the celtics

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                    • THE LAKERS:


                      10-1 (Straight up)-- Last 11 Laker games in playoffs record when Crawford referees

                      9-8 (Straight up) -- Lakers record last 17 playoff games without Crawford.


                      Last two seasons of playoffs:
                      Lakers are 21-11 in 32 games:

                      14-10 without Crawford as ref.
                      7-1 with Crawford (only loss was elimination game vs Celtics 131-92 game which is very hard to fix).

                      GUESS WHO STERN ASSIGNED TO THE GAME TODAY ?

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                      • Originally posted by GOLDENGREEK View Post
                        THE LAKERS:


                        10-1 (Straight up)-- Last 11 Laker games in playoffs record when Crawford referees

                        9-8 (Straight up) -- Lakers record last 17 playoff games without Crawford.


                        Last two seasons of playoffs:
                        Lakers are 21-11 in 32 games:

                        14-10 without Crawford as ref.
                        7-1 with Crawford (only loss was elimination game vs Celtics 131-92 game which is very hard to fix).

                        GUESS WHO STERN ASSIGNED TO THE GAME TODAY ?

                        And your not playing the Lakers at all

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                        • Originally posted by vols fan View Post
                          and your not playing the lakers at all
                          how ?

                          Take the moneyline ??

                          These records are s/u not ats

                          he is there to insure the lakers win - i didnt say anything about the cover

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                          • Originally posted by GOLDENGREEK View Post
                            how ?

                            Take the moneyline ??

                            These records are s/u not ats

                            he is there to insure the lakers win - i didnt say anything about the cover
                            So the fix is for them to win the series I guess is your point.
                            You know it's getting bad when yall complain about the refs and the game hasn't even started yet

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                            • Originally posted by vols fan View Post
                              So the fix is for them to win the series I guess is your point.
                              You know it's getting bad when yall complain about the refs and the game hasn't even started yet
                              DID YOU READ THIS ?



                              THE LAKERS:


                              10-1 (Straight up)-- Last 11 Laker games in playoffs record when Crawford referees


                              9-8 (Straight up) -- Lakers record last 17 playoff games without Crawford.




                              Last two seasons of playoffs:
                              Lakers are 21-11 in 32 games:



                              14-10 without Crawford as ref.
                              7-1 with Crawford (only loss was elimination game vs Celtics 131-92 game which is very hard to fix).

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                              • Greek, as I posted about 4 pages ago, whatever you think about the call itself, there was no "call" made when the horn sounded. The horn is controlled by a timer at courtside, and they are taught to not rest the 24 second clock is there is any doubt at all, and then let refs figure it out on the court, so there was no call to "overturn"

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