All i want for Christmas (Sports Edition)

[savage1]

What did Pedroia do that you guys think is so honorable? He isn't eligible for FA until 2013.

My bad-you are correct-I just accepted Wayne's contention about Pedroia's being happy in Boston without considering the entire situation.

[wayne1218]

Also, regarding your last paragraph, surely you cannot mean his value at least in regard to the 2007 season.
Without him I seriously doubt that they would have won the WS.

savage, It's 2008 and soon to be 2009. I could care less what he did in 2007, today. I'm thinking about next year and Boston would be a MUCH BETTER team with Teixeira here and Lowell gone.

[frankb03]

Only Savage can turn a thread that was intended on being fun into a argumentative cluster fuck.

[wayne1218]

What did Pedroia do that you guys think is so honorable? He isn't eligible for FA until 2013.

He signed a longer term contract (Just like Longoria did), instead of being a FA sooner and going for the cash. You also don't ever see a League MVP sign a new deal after winning the Award for what, 6.75 million a year? That is nuts!

They saved on his arbitration years and 2 years in which he would have been a FA. They also have a team option for 2015. It was a GREAT contract from the Red Sox point of view and the fans too.

[PhilJr]

My wish is that there would be more players like Mike Lowell who realize that happiness, success and being liked by your teammates is a lot more important than having their agent try to extort every last cent on the open market simply to inflate their ego and put a few extra unneeded dollars in their pockets to go play somewhere else when they already have more than they can ever spend in their lifetimes.
In this poor economy and in the interest of the fans, if there were some way to cap salaries and stop this out-of-control madness, I would enthusiastically applaud it.

My wish is that interleague will finish 50/50 in 2009 and then there will be no clear cut winner for the world series

[wayne1218]

Only Savage can turn a thread that was intended on being fun into a argumentative cluster fuck.

savage wants to Star in "Indecent Proposal 2" with Mike Lowell. He seriously loves him that much!

[Three Jack]

He signed a longer term contract (Just like Longoria did), instead of being a FA sooner and going for the cash. You also don't ever see a League MVP sign a new deal after winning the Award for what, 6.75 million a year? That is nuts!

They saved on his arbitration years and 2 years in which he would have been a FA. They also have a team option for 2015. It was a GREAT contract from the Red Sox point of view and the fans too.

I agree that its a great deal for both Pedroia and the Sox (and the fans) but I am not so sure I see it the same way as you as being a great sacrifice by Pedroia. Yes, he gave up 2 yrs of FA but gained 6 yrs of financial security that he wouldn't have if he didn't sign the contract. His only other alternative was to go to salary arbitration each year and he would basically be playing for his contract every year. He had a great year and I hope he is around for 10 more yrs, but he could have a crap year or two, or get hurt and because of his tenure, he would have nothing in the bank. What the Sox did is not unusual for young potential superstars (as you mentioned, Longoria was another recent long term signee).

Look at Youk. He is up for arbitration (I would expect the Sox to lock himk up too) and he will get a huge bump from his $3 million. But if he had a crap year, he would get dinged pretty hard in arbitration.

[seaofred]

Only Savage can turn a thread that was intended on being fun into a argumentative cluster fuck.

you said it frank,im sorry i posted in it now

[Three Jack]

savage wants to Star in "Indecent Proposal 2" with Mike Lowell. He seriously loves him that much!

[Three Jack]

My wish is that interleague will finish 50/50 in 2009 and then there will be no clear cut winner for the world series

[wayne1218]

I agree that its a great deal for both Pedroia and the Sox (and the fans) but I am not so sure I see it the same way as you as being a great sacrifice by Pedroia. Yes, he gave up 2 yrs of FA but gained 6 yrs of financial security that he wouldn't have if he didn't sign the contract. His only other alternative was to go to salary arbitration each year and he would basically be playing for his contract every year. He had a great year and I hope he is around for 10 more yrs, but he could have a crap year or two, or get hurt and because of his tenure, he would have nothing in the bank. What the Sox did is not unusual for young potential superstars (as you mentioned, Longoria was another recent long term signee).

Look at Youk. He is up for arbitration (I would expect the Sox to lock himk up too) and he will get a huge bump from his $3 million. But if he had a crap year, he would get dinged pretty hard in arbitration.

My point to savage was simple though 3J. If you asked the other 29 teams who they would take if they could have Pedroia at 6.75 per year or Lowell at 12.50 million per year, who do you think all 29 would choose?

You said he had a great "Year" but really, he has had 2 great years in 2 years of play. In 2007 he was a Rookie and a big part of a WS Winner and he wins Rookie of the Year. In year 2 he Wins the League MVP, the Gold Glove and a Silver Slugger Award. This guy has done ALOT in just 2 years and that contract was a steal for Boston. If savage talks about any contracts in Boston as being great deals, Pedroia's should top the list. That's all i'm saying. Where is the love for Dustin? You know??

[Three Jack]

My point to savage was simple though 3J. If you asked the other 29 teams who they would take if they could have Pedroia at 6.75 per year or Lowell at 12.50 million per year, who do you think all 29 would choose?

You said he had a great "Year" but really, he has had 2 great years in 2 years of play. In 2007 he was a Rookie and a big part of a WS Winner and he wins Rookie of the Year. In year 2 he Wins the League MVP, the Gold Glove and a Silver Slugger Award. This guy has done ALOT in just 2 years and that contract was a steal for Boston. If savage talks about any contracts in Boston as being great deals, Pedroia's should top the list. That's all i'm saying. Where is the love for Dustin? You know??

I agree and the contract was great for Boston...some risk but still a very good contract for both...and like you mentioned, The Nation as well!

[zeib10]

Dear Santa,
I have been a very good boy this year and here is my list:

1- McNabb to be traded for a #1 pick in the offseason
2- The Eagles to lower ticket prices
3- The Phillies to lower beer prices
4- Suzy Kolber to "interview" me
5- Erin Andrews to watch # 4
6- I win at least 1 NCAA Bracket in 2009
7- I win any 1 of Wayne's pools
8- The Phils repeat
9- Mr. Lurie hires Pat Gillick as GM
10-A NCAAFB Playoff ASAP

That's all Santa,

Merrry Christmas

[savage1]

Only Savage can turn a thread that was intended on being fun into a argumentative cluster fuck.

I simply expressed an opinion about a question-it was guys like YOU who turned it into something argumentative not I!

[savage1]

My point to savage was simple though 3J. If you asked the other 29 teams who they would take if they could have Pedroia at 6.75 per year or Lowell at 12.50 million per year, who do you think all 29 would choose?

You said he had a great "Year" but really, he has had 2 great years in 2 years of play. In 2007 he was a Rookie and a big part of a WS Winner and he wins Rookie of the Year. In year 2 he Wins the League MVP, the Gold Glove and a Silver Slugger Award. This guy has done ALOT in just 2 years and that contract was a steal for Boston. If savage talks about any contracts in Boston as being great deals, Pedroia's should top the list. That's all i'm saying. Where is the love for Dustin? You know??

It is great deal for the Red Sox for sure and just shows you how good a GM Theo is to get that deal done as opposed to the lunacy and stupidity of (Unlimited) CASH(man) who is competely clueless as to how to wisely spend his money with CC being the latest example.