I never wanna hear that this shit isnt fixed ever again !!!!

[KazDog]

My post to you out of line----pointing out the obvious, that some don't want to see.......

I guess GREEK is right, and he hit the nail on the head, when he said I was the antagonizer here....

He and Chado have a ton of e-mails stating so....remember....

Well PAPI---I'm going to BED, I've seen enough and had enough of the shots at other people on a constant basis, then saying I'm sorry, and then do it again....

also tired of seeing hyped up picks, and then the tallies for wins and losses don't match up....

I've disagreed with numerous people on this site, been called ignorant, hard headed, and what surprises me is GREEK didn't give me his obligatory GFYM phrase....which he does quite often....does the name calling quite often....flies off the handle, quite often....

gets away with it too.....gets away with what you say....that's just a few....

I'm going to Bed now PAPI---long day ahead of me, you entertain the 2 bufoons.....They are exactly what this Forum needs......Like the commercial says----you want em, you got em....TOYOTA.....

pretty pitiful when you can't give your opinion on a forum without being attacked, ridiculed, called ignorant, hardheaded, and like I say, was spared the GREEKS famous GFYM....how lucky am I....

These people aren't mature enough to have a debate.......Yeh I know, it's FIXED.....Pitiful

Get back to ya when I get a chance.....lots of work ahead of me, crimped for time....hold the fort down till I have a chance to post again....

Good night PAPI----love ya PAL

Geezus Kapt.....For your own good I'm going to say this whether you think I'm an asshole or wrong for doing it.

YOU HAVE BECOME OBSESSED WITH CHADO! Seriously man. Every word the guy types out, you are on his nuts. AND YOU MAY BE EXACTLY RIGHT ABOUT HIM TO THE FULLEST EXTENT. BUT SERIOUSLY, WHY DO YOU EVEN GIVE TWO SHITS? YOU ARE OLDER AND SHOULD NOT LET THIS KIND OF HIJINKS GET THE BEST OF YOU!

Plain and simple, you are not going to change him. He runs to the tune of a different drummer. And yet night in and night out, you are trying to change this person and make him see all the faults that you think he possesses. That, in and of itself, is a fault of your own. It's obvious you are not going to change him. So why let it consume you on this forum?

I'm speaking as an outsider i think, and honestly, it would be best if you never responded to a word about him. Or Greek for that matter.

This has got to be what a prison yard must be like.....Bunch of guys flexing their muscle and trying to one up and be king of the hill.....LET IT GO FOR GOD'S SAKE. You KNOW you are better than that.

Now you're getting on Spark because he isn't fixing it to your liking. Spark has his reasons for the way he keeps Chado in check. That should be good enough for you and good enough for the forum....You're good guy and respected by many. Why jeopardize that respect in any way? In the larger scheme of things, his comments or actions should mean nothing to you....

Hopefully a novel isn't forthcoming and you take this in the context that it was written in. With regards to you as a being the bigger man and moving on....

PEACE!

KAZ

[Chado1]

I would love to know the percentage of the public players on the Steelers, since the line moved from like 3- up to 5 or even 5- I believe the public was heavy on the Steelers. That makes it shady, not just the one call but add in the 13-1 discrepancy and its no wonder people are skeptical of the NFL.

The Steelers were the 2nd most heavily backed public play at approx 69% behind the Cardinals which were the most at approx 72%...this makes things even shadier IMO...

[weazel079]

Forward or backward? You make the call. Looks backward to me. Given the game is over and its ruled a TD on the field I don't see how: 1) The play is reviewed in the 1st place and 2) How there is enough evidence to overturn the call on the field.

[FATCAT]

YOU CAN"T ADVANCE A LATERAL!!!Everything else does not matter..Play is dead when Troy picked it up..The refs reasoning was nonsense but the TD would have never counted in the end.

I just read more of this thread and I think I will stay out of this mess..

[PSL6978]

this was just nuts

pitt had 13 penalties to just 1 for sd

the thign that got me was when he made the call, he looked so confused, he just put his hands on his head and ran off the field

just a big clusterfuck if you ask me

i didnt have any meaning bets in the game but i would of blew my stack if i had pitt

[bigjimt]

YOU CAN"T ADVANCE A LATERAL!!!

Really? Since when?

Every toss sweep and pitch play is considered a lateral (or backwards pass) and these are constantly recovered and advanced by defenders when they are dropped.

[thaikarate1]

Guys,

The game is not fixed. There are like a thousand games going on, CFB, CBB, NBA, CBB, Soccer...etc. Why would they pick this one. I am pretty sure money wagered were pretty spread out. It is not like there were a million dollars betted on this game. The line movement did not show that at all. Line opened at -3 and I think it ends at -4 or -5.

Kapt, that is not a forward pass. Photo shows it.

This is a classic case of how much these NFL refs suck. What is funny is that they seem to happen to the my Chargers a lot this year. Must be a sign.

Fix in tennis/Boxing/MMA (indvidual sports) is much easier to accomplish and the the NFL. I mean there are way too many variables and people involve.

What suck for me is that I have Troy in my Fantasy team. That forced fumble and TD would have given me like 200 points.

Fix, possible, but very unlikely.

[Croughn]

ESPN - Errant call costs Pittsburgh Steelers last-minute touchdown
heres best explanation...and i heard just now on espn that the nfl is gonna address it today

[MtrCtyPimp]

The PI in the 1st Q was shady. So was the holding on the punt return. So was the holding on the TD in the 4th. That was clearly a TD by Polamalu and there wasnt a single forward pass on that last play besides the first one Rivers made to Tomlinson which was legal. Lets be honest the whole game was shady.

If the Refs were trying to fix it to make San Diego lose and cover they sure went all out on this one. 23:1 penalty yards ratio? 13:1 flags? Just when they finally thought they had done their jobs the Chargers decide to botch it up one last time and the refs had to clean it up once again.

This wasnt just some fluke play here folks......this was a whole game of one sidedness and what happened on that last play was bushleague.

How can anyone read that explanation of what happened on the last play from the ref and continue with a straight face?

Frank made an arguement is why would the refs wait until the last play of the game to fix it and that arguement is flawed because they were siding with San Diego in this one for some odd reason. Even after they called a one sided game for 59:55 the Chargers still threw another monkey wrench in their plans with that last play and they had to create another lie to prevent the Steelers from scoring.

I have seen some whacky things lately and this ranks up there with them. We live in a dirty world people where people lie and cheat all the time. Especially nowadays with today's economy and who knows why people do the things they do. Leaders of the free world kill innocent people for personal gain. You dont think they will fix a fucken football game why? People are fixing wars nowadays based on false intel and lies. Fixing a football on a Sunday afternoon is smalltime these days.

PEACE

[Chado1]

The PI in the 1st Q was shady. So was the holding on the punt return. So was the holding on the TD in the 4th. That was clearly a TD by Polamalu and there wasnt a single forward pass on that last play besides the first one Rivers made to Tomlinson which was legal. Lets be honest the whole game was shady.

If the Refs were trying to fix it to make San Diego lose and cover they sure went all out on this one. 23:1 penalty yards ratio? 13:1 flags? Just when they finally thought they had done their jobs the Chargers decide to botch it up one last time and the refs had to clean it up once again.

This wasnt just some fluke play here folks......this was a whole game of one sidedness and what happened on that last play was bushleague.

How can anyone read that explanation of what happened on the last play from the ref and continue with a straight face?

Frank made an arguement is why would the refs wait until the last play of the game to fix it and that arguement is flawed because they were siding with San Diego in this one for some odd reason. Even after they called a one sided game for 59:55 the Chargers still threw another monkey wrench in their plans with that last play and they had to create another lie to prevent the Steelers from scoring.

I have seen some whacky things lately and this ranks up there with them. We live in a dirty world people where people lie and cheat all the time. Especially nowadays with today's economy and who knows why people do the things they do. Leaders of the free world kill innocent people for personal gain. You dont think they will fix a fucken football game why? People are fixing wars nowadays based on false intel and lies. Fixing a football on a Sunday afternoon is smalltime these days.

PEACE

Between this one and that Rockets/Blazers game we watched last year Ronnie I dont know which was more shadier...but dont worry nothing would ever be fixed thats just wrong and I refuse to ever believe it would be..

[Spearit]

Hmmmmmm

I can see why some are pissed with the calls in this game. Doesn't seem right to be hit with so many penalties and SD gets only one. But it happens.

Concerning the last play for a Pitt cover.
In my opinion, I have to say that the ball carrier is crossing the 25 yard line when he laterals the ball to a receiver who has to step out to the 27 yard line to catch the ball. After playing this numerous times, it is clearly a forward lateral. It will stand as a forward lateral and ESPN and whomever will go on saying the opposite.

Saying something is fixed, is always a possibility. But again, my opinion, and
this play stands as they review it today.
Lock and Load and get em next time.

[Spearit]

Again, the key here is that the receiver stopped and stepped forward to the 27 yard line to receive the ball from the carrier who was crossing at the 25-26 yard line. Please review the tape. It is what it is.

[Spearit]

LT's lateral to #89 was a forward pass. LT lateraled on the 26. Number 89 caught it on the 27. It was a forward pass.

Absolutely!!

And SD had two penalties counting the forward lateral. However, looking the game over at steelers.com, it is showing some holding on SD against Pitts on rushing linemen. Not called.

[frankb03]

Frank made an arguement is why would the refs wait until the last play of the game to fix it and that arguement is flawed because they were siding with San Diego in this one for some odd reason. Even after they called a one sided game for 59:55 the Chargers still threw another monkey wrench in their plans with that last play and they had to create another lie to prevent the Steelers from scoring.

You say flawed. I say it's preposterous.

Let's agree to disagree. The conspiracy theorists always scream FIX anytime something out of the norm occurs when it affects the spread. Others, like me, just accept it as part of the game. A game played, coached and refereed by humans. Humans by nature make mistakes. The sport would be awfully boring if it was played, coached and refereed to perfection in every game. Imagine how nice that would be. The better team would win each and every game.

[STCHAMP]

what i dont get is my sportsbook online credited my account with the final 17-10 and
then took it away and gave me a loss and i thought they reviewed it and said ruling on the
field stands touchdown any one else have this done